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Re: Daniel Jones
nothing against the bloke, but he's a giant, so i hope his ceiling is blake bortles.
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His floor is right around Haskins' ceiling.killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:49 am nothing against the bloke, but he's a giant, so i hope his ceiling is blake bortles.
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Re: Daniel Jones
haha what did they have Jackson and jones at in madden?
and I think it's always easy to say he would of been there at 17 but theres really no proof of it, someone could of change their minds and took him or a team traded up a head of the giants. if he wins them a super bowl, no one will remember where they could of gotten him.
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So what are the analytics that back up this opinion?notweswelker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:30 amHis floor is right around Haskins' ceiling.killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:49 am nothing against the bloke, but he's a giant, so i hope his ceiling is blake bortles.
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I am a Giants fan of coursebjd5211 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:14 pmSo what are the analytics that back up this opinion?notweswelker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:30 amHis floor is right around Haskins' ceiling.killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:49 am nothing against the bloke, but he's a giant, so i hope his ceiling is blake bortles.
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As strong as analytics comenotweswelker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:15 pmI am a Giants fan of coursebjd5211 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:14 pmSo what are the analytics that back up this opinion?notweswelker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:30 am
His floor is right around Haskins' ceiling.
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The poise, accuracy, size, release, hasn't surprised me at all. His downfield aggression sure has. Thought he'd be a solid game manager but he was dropping bombs in buckets.
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He was one of the best deep ball passers in '18.Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:26 pm The poise, accuracy, size, release, hasn't surprised me at all. His downfield aggression sure has. Thought he'd be a solid game manager but he was dropping bombs in buckets.
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His pre draft analysis had him as a very smart QB, with good mechanics, and a pretty deep ball. The problem? When he doesn't know what's going on he becomes startled and is extremely hesitant to make plays. This is exactly the type of player that would excel in the preseason (where he's going against mostly vanilla defenses) and would face plant in an actual NFL game.Needalife wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:49 pm A lot to be seen yet, but a really nice preseason. The key in NY will be to add more top end WR talent, maybe next year. He looks accurate but hasn’t faced a ton of pressure yet. Nice arm, nice poise. More potential and value than many initially gave him credit for
So... seeing him excel in preseason play is encouraging (in the sense that he's not worse than we expected) and unsurprising.
I saw a lot of the same problems Alex Smith had (smart QB, good mechanics, but is a deer in headlights when things don't go as he expects-- which happens a lot in the NFL); and I stand by my pre-draft assessment that he will be a marginal QB talent.
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He Looks like the real deal and more importantly for Giants fans it looks like they made the right the pick.notweswelker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:53 pmHe was one of the best deep ball passers in '18.Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:26 pm The poise, accuracy, size, release, hasn't surprised me at all. His downfield aggression sure has. Thought he'd be a solid game manager but he was dropping bombs in buckets.
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/ ... 1085877248?
He will be a solid pro IMO.
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Nice thanks for that. I wasn't in the QB market so I glimpsed over his tape but that's a nice stat.notweswelker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:53 pmHe was one of the best deep ball passers in '18.Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:26 pm The poise, accuracy, size, release, hasn't surprised me at all. His downfield aggression sure has. Thought he'd be a solid game manager but he was dropping bombs in buckets.
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Re: Daniel Jones
you guys get so defensive, so quicknotweswelker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:30 amHis floor is right around Haskins' ceiling.killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:49 am nothing against the bloke, but he's a giant, so i hope his ceiling is blake bortles.
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They may have been looking for that. When Eli doesn't know what is going on and is startled he makes the "Eli face" and throws the ball to the other team.IZigUZag wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:31 pm analysis had him as a very smart QB, with good mechanics, and a pretty deep ball. The problem? When he doesn't know what's going on he becomes startled and is extremely hesitant to make plays. This is exactly the type of player that would excel in the preseason (where he's going against mostly vanilla defenses) and would face plant in an actual NFL game.
So... seeing him excel in preseason play is encouraging (in the sense that he's not worse than we expected) and unsurprising.
I saw a lot of the same problems Alex Smith had (smart QB, good mechanics, but is a deer in headlights when things don't go as he expects-- which happens a lot in the NFL); and I stand by my pre-draft assessment that he will be a marginal QB talent.
12-team Non-PPR QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, TE, K, DEF
QB: Mahomes, Cam, Tannehill
RB: LeVeon, Jordan Howard, Latavius, Bryce Love, Ty Johnson
WR: OBJ, Antonio Brown, Corey Davis, Robby Anderson, Anthony Miller, Arcega-Whiteside,
Diontae Johnson, Hakeem Butler, DJ Chark, Darius Slayton
TE: OJ Howard, Evan Engram, Gerald Everett
K: Zuerlein
DEF: KC
QB: Mahomes, Cam, Tannehill
RB: LeVeon, Jordan Howard, Latavius, Bryce Love, Ty Johnson
WR: OBJ, Antonio Brown, Corey Davis, Robby Anderson, Anthony Miller, Arcega-Whiteside,
Diontae Johnson, Hakeem Butler, DJ Chark, Darius Slayton
TE: OJ Howard, Evan Engram, Gerald Everett
K: Zuerlein
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That Eli face led to two superbowls. For those not inclined at math, that's two more than the entirety of Falcons history.mratlanta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:31 amThey may have been looking for that. When Eli doesn't know what is going on and is startled he makes the "Eli face" and throws the ball to the other team.IZigUZag wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:31 pm analysis had him as a very smart QB, with good mechanics, and a pretty deep ball. The problem? When he doesn't know what's going on he becomes startled and is extremely hesitant to make plays. This is exactly the type of player that would excel in the preseason (where he's going against mostly vanilla defenses) and would face plant in an actual NFL game.
So... seeing him excel in preseason play is encouraging (in the sense that he's not worse than we expected) and unsurprising.
I saw a lot of the same problems Alex Smith had (smart QB, good mechanics, but is a deer in headlights when things don't go as he expects-- which happens a lot in the NFL); and I stand by my pre-draft assessment that he will be a marginal QB talent.
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Eli has actually been one of the better QBs under pressure during his career. His demise is also completely exaggerated imo. He's always been a DGAF QB who's succeeded because of great defensive personnel. Now that the Giants defense sucks bleep his warts have been on full display adding to the narrative of him being done.notweswelker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:41 pmThat Eli face led to two superbowls. For those not inclined at math, that's two more than the entirety of Falcons history.mratlanta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:31 amThey may have been looking for that. When Eli doesn't know what is going on and is startled he makes the "Eli face" and throws the ball to the other team.IZigUZag wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:31 pm analysis had him as a very smart QB, with good mechanics, and a pretty deep ball. The problem? When he doesn't know what's going on he becomes startled and is extremely hesitant to make plays. This is exactly the type of player that would excel in the preseason (where he's going against mostly vanilla defenses) and would face plant in an actual NFL game.
So... seeing him excel in preseason play is encouraging (in the sense that he's not worse than we expected) and unsurprising.
I saw a lot of the same problems Alex Smith had (smart QB, good mechanics, but is a deer in headlights when things don't go as he expects-- which happens a lot in the NFL); and I stand by my pre-draft assessment that he will be a marginal QB talent.
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