Preston Williams Hype Train

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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:26 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:14 pm
Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:04 pm
Vcize wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:05 pm

Huh? He was just saying that's how the salary cap is set up in the NFL.
Yeah, it's not that hard a correlation to understand.

The patriots paid a hell of a lot more for Harry than the dolphins did for Williams. In a salary cap league you pay a hell of a lot more for an early 1st round pick than some player you pick in the 5th or 6rh round of the draft.
True, but is an 8th of the team's cap space devoted to an NFL first rounder, like it was in this case? The NFL used to have a structure 2here 1st round rookies were paid alot, but it created cap and locker room problems so it was fixed in the current CBA.
It depends on the league I guess. I know in my one the 1st overall pick costs $20k and our salary cap is $200k. It's nice having an early pick but you better choose right or your team is in the bleep. That rookie is contracted to you for 4 years. You dump him early and you face a huge cap hit.

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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby Vcize » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:06 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:14 pm
Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:04 pm
Vcize wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:05 pm

Huh? He was just saying that's how the salary cap is set up in the NFL.
Yeah, it's not that hard a correlation to understand.

The patriots paid a hell of a lot more for Harry than the dolphins did for Williams. In a salary cap league you pay a hell of a lot more for an early 1st round pick than some player you pick in the 5th or 6rh round of the draft.
True, but is an 8th of the team's cap space devoted to an NFL first rounder, like it was in this case? The NFL used to have a structure 2here 1st round rookies were paid alot, but it created cap and locker room problems so it was fixed in the current CBA.
I believe he said 8%, not an 8th.

Harry accounts for 5% of the Patriots cap space this year, so pretty close, but he was also the last pick in the 1st round of the NFL draft. In fantasy drafts Harry is a top 3 pick. Quinnen Williams, the #3 pick in the NFL draft, accounts for 17.5% of the Jets cap space this year.
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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby kmbryant09 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:38 am

Vcize wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:06 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:14 pm
Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:04 pm

Yeah, it's not that hard a correlation to understand.

The patriots paid a hell of a lot more for Harry than the dolphins did for Williams. In a salary cap league you pay a hell of a lot more for an early 1st round pick than some player you pick in the 5th or 6rh round of the draft.
True, but is an 8th of the team's cap space devoted to an NFL first rounder, like it was in this case? The NFL used to have a structure 2here 1st round rookies were paid alot, but it created cap and locker room problems so it was fixed in the current CBA.
I believe he said 8%, not an 8th.

Harry accounts for 5% of the Patriots cap space this year, so pretty close, but he was also the last pick in the 1st round of the NFL draft. In fantasy drafts Harry is a top 3 pick. Quinnen Williams, the #3 pick in the NFL draft, accounts for 17.5% of the Jets cap space this year.
According to OTC, Q. Williams accounts for just 3.5% of the Jets cap space this year...

I understand that in Salary Cap leagues, there's an added element of cost / budget to factor into a player's value.

My point is that added element seems to be broken *if* an UDFA (Williams, who likely went undrafted in the Rookie Draft), is *significantly* more valuable than a consensus top3 Rookie pick after 2 Pre-Season games.

Sounds a lot like last CBA's rookie-scale, when teams were absolutely burdened by over-inflated Rookie Contracts for high picks.
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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:07 pm

Hmm crazy I missed this thread. Gonna pick this guy up in place of ESB I think

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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby ArrylT » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:26 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:07 pm Hmm crazy I missed this thread. Gonna pick this guy up in place of ESB I think
Good idea. :thumbup:
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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:30 pm

ArrylT wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:26 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:07 pm Hmm crazy I missed this thread. Gonna pick this guy up in place of ESB I think
Good idea. :thumbup:
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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby lanemitchell96 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:35 am

Jigga94 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:07 pm Hmm crazy I missed this thread. Gonna pick this guy up in place of ESB I think
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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby Huh » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:13 am

Where is this guy getting drafted today? I’m interested how high up the Preston’s Jakobis and keeseans have climbed in the last week or so.

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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby Cherokee » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:16 am

Huh wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:13 am Where is this guy getting drafted today? I’m interested how high up the Preston’s Jakobis and keeseans have climbed in the last week or so.
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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby Avery » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:42 pm

I'm currently considering him strongly at 3.06 in a rookie draft...
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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:01 pm

Jakobi and Preston absolutely need to be drafted in the third. What you have seen from them is what you want from a 3rd rounder. 3rd round picks in rookie drafts are usually later round players that you are hoping show out like Jakobi and Preston do. The fact they weren't drafted at this point means a lot less now that they both project to make the 53 and even have a role at some point.
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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby mild » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:28 pm

My draft was a month ago and Preston was taken in the late 2nd round (2.08)

We thought he was f-ing nuts. He's looking smart now.

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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby lanemitchell96 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:44 am

Keeping an eye on Preston tonight in MIA vs JAX preseason
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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby notweswelker » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:59 am

I will ride this hype train to the very end of the tracks

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Re: Preston Williams Hype Train

Postby lanemitchell96 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:30 pm

notweswelker wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:59 am I will ride this hype train to the very end of the tracks
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