Preston Williams Hype Train

[Ice]

Expect them to draft a QB then inside out with lineman leading the way. But having said that they need their BPA with all picks.

Almost impossible to win without quality line play.

Pretty sure they have a 3 year plan.

Wr is the least of their concerns but they will draft one if one falls in their lap.

[bjd5211]

I still don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they take Chase Young over a QB, and then focus on OL, then take a QB in 2021. WR though is definitely going to be low on the priority list due to all there other needs at more important positions for a rebuilding team, and given that it is a position of relative strength for them in comparison to the rest of the roster. The biggest threat to Preston's job security is Preston himself, needs to keep his nose clean and stay out of trouble.

[Forza_Azzurri]

I still don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they take Chase Young over a QB, and then focus on OL, then take a QB in 2021. WR though is definitely going to be low on the priority list due to all there other needs at more important positions for a rebuilding team, and given that it is a position of relative strength for them in comparison to the rest of the roster. The biggest threat to Preston's job security is Preston himself, needs to keep his nose clean and stay out of trouble.

If they had a decent owner, I’d agree with you. But Miami has to put butts in the seats and create some sort of interest in the franchise. I live in South Florida. I’m not a Phins fan, but I’m not a hater either. Right now, the Pats, Giants & Jets have bigger fan bases down here. There’s no way they don’t pick a QB first next year even though Young is the best choice.

[bjd5211]

If there's a QB there that they truly love and believe in, then ya that's the right choice obviously. But how many times have we seen young QBs come in with no support on the roster (primarily OL to protect him and Defense to take pressure off him) and just implode? Or teams take a QB that obviously isn't anything special, but they "needed" a QB so much they drafted a obviously shaky option? Now this QB class looks pretty good at the top, but Chase Young is special and so are 2 QBs potentially coming out in '21 (Lawrence, Fields). They would be so much better off in the long run and be competitive sooner if they got all the support pieces in place for a young QB BEFORE he gets there, than subjecting him to being killed by a bad OL and getting no help from his defense. Plus it could give them a chance to really look at Rosen after he finally gets a 2nd year in a system and is on a more competent roster, he's been given no chance to succeed since he entered the league and obviously he's looked terrible because of it.

Ultimately you're right, it comes down to ownership and how much of a leash Grier and Flores truly have. It's just frustrating to watch these franchises continuously shoot themselves in the foot by trying to turn themselves around overnight when just a little more patience would get them on the right track. What do the Dolphins really have to lose anyway, they've been terrible for years because they keep doing the same thing over and over. Try something new.

[nathanq42]

If there's a QB there that they truly love and believe in, then ya that's the right choice obviously. But how many times have we seen young QBs come in with no support on the roster (primarily OL to protect him and Defense to take pressure off him) and just implode? Or teams take a QB that obviously isn't anything special, but they "needed" a QB so much they drafted a obviously shaky option? Now this QB class looks pretty good at the top, but Chase Young is special and so are 2 QBs potentially coming out in '21 (Lawrence, Fields). They would be so much better off in the long run and be competitive sooner if they got all the support pieces in place for a young QB BEFORE he gets there, than subjecting him to being killed by a bad OL and getting no help from his defense. Plus it could give them a chance to really look at Rosen after he finally gets a 2nd year in a system and is on a more competent roster, he's been given no chance to succeed since he entered the league and obviously he's looked terrible because of it.

Ultimately you're right, it comes down to ownership and how much of a leash Grier and Flores truly have. It's just frustrating to watch these franchises continuously shoot themselves in the foot by trying to turn themselves around overnight when just a little more patience would get them on the right track. What do the Dolphins really have to lose anyway, they've been terrible for years because they keep doing the same thing over and over. Try something new.

Idk if the management has turned over or not, but they gave Tannehill years before they ran him out of town. I think Rosen deserves a real shot at being the starter

[Kurt G.O.A.T.]

williams already looked like a polished vet running routes this season. no way he's not in their plans moving forward.

[Ice]

I still don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they take Chase Young over a QB, and then focus on OL, then take a QB in 2021. WR though is definitely going to be low on the priority list due to all there other needs at more important positions for a rebuilding team, and given that it is a position of relative strength for them in comparison to the rest of the roster. The biggest threat to Preston's job security is Preston himself, needs to keep his nose clean and stay out of trouble.

Probably need 1.1 to get him. He would be a great pic. I like their coach but not sure how much input he will have.

Who knows for sure at this point.

[FantasyFreak]

I still don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they take Chase Young over a QB, and then focus on OL, then take a QB in 2021. WR though is definitely going to be low on the priority list due to all there other needs at more important positions for a rebuilding team, and given that it is a position of relative strength for them in comparison to the rest of the roster. The biggest threat to Preston's job security is Preston himself, needs to keep his nose clean and stay out of trouble.

Probably need 1.1 to get him. He would be a great pic. I like their coach but not sure how much input he will have.

Who knows for sure at this point.

I think with the teams that are in the Hunt for 1.1, a QB will go first. Dolphins, Bengals will go QB IMO. If the Jets get 1.01, or the Skins, I could see Young going first. If you are a team that doesn't have a franchise QB, I don't see how you can pass on a guy like Tua for a DE.

[Shcritters]

If the team that gets the 1.01 already has a franchise QB (ie, Jets), I would be very surprised if they don’t trade back for a haul from a team that needs a QB. Young is going to be good, but the teams in the realm of 1.01 need way more than 1 player to be good. Best to trade back for a couple 1sts and build over time.

But that’s the slow route... and sometimes teams aren’t patient enough to go that way.

[bjd5211]

I still don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they take Chase Young over a QB, and then focus on OL, then take a QB in 2021. WR though is definitely going to be low on the priority list due to all there other needs at more important positions for a rebuilding team, and given that it is a position of relative strength for them in comparison to the rest of the roster. The biggest threat to Preston's job security is Preston himself, needs to keep his nose clean and stay out of trouble.

Probably need 1.1 to get him. He would be a great pic. I like their coach but not sure how much input he will have.

Who knows for sure at this point.

I think with the teams that are in the Hunt for 1.1, a QB will go first. Dolphins, Bengals will go QB IMO. If the Jets get 1.01, or the Skins, I could see Young going first. If you are a team that doesn't have a franchise QB, I don't see how you can pass on a guy like Tua for a DE.

Well part of my argument for it is I think Tua's being over rated as a prospect, I don't think he's the generational prospect many are making him out to be. I think Burrow is the #1 QB in this class.

[FantasyFreak]

Probably need 1.1 to get him. He would be a great pic. I like their coach but not sure how much input he will have.

Who knows for sure at this point.

I think with the teams that are in the Hunt for 1.1, a QB will go first. Dolphins, Bengals will go QB IMO. If the Jets get 1.01, or the Skins, I could see Young going first. If you are a team that doesn't have a franchise QB, I don't see how you can pass on a guy like Tua for a DE.

Well part of my argument for it is I think Tua's being over rated as a prospect, I don't think he's the generational prospect many are making him out to be. I think Burrow is the #1 QB in this class.

Then Burrow. My point is if you believe one of these QB's is a franchise level QB, you cannot pass on him for a DE, even if that player is supposedly the best prospect. I don't think anyone would fault the Cards taking Kyler over Bosa right now. I have not watched a ton of Burrow, but one thing I did not like about him was his lack of tightness on his spiral. That worked for Peyton, though. I think Tua is a very good prospect. Better than any that came out last year. I need to delve into Burrow more, before I can make any sort of educated comment about his game.

Also, as of now, it looks like Chase young will get a 4 game ban. He's best to sit out the rest of the year, like Bosa did. He's got nothing to gain by playing again this year. NCAA is so corrupt. They make Billions off these players, but suspend a guy for taking a loan from a family friend so he could fly his girlfriend to the Rose Bowl. Chase Young should do the smart thing and be done with the NCAA, and focus on getting ready for the combine.

[bjd5211]

Well I did say higher up that if they truly love and see a bigtime franchise QB in this class, then yes they should obviously take him. If they go through their evaluations and for whatever don't believe there is a special guy though, they should take Young rather than settling for a QB they aren't in love with just because he's a QB. Taking the wrong QB is far more detrimental long-term than just not taking one at all. Chase Young is a truly special prospect at the 2nd most valuable position and pairing him with last years 1st rounder Christian Wilkins would give them a very formidable young DL to build their defense out from. Getting the strong supporting cast in place for a young QB to be able to step in to and thrive right away will get them where they want to go faster than dropping a QB into a roster with little support.

As for your comment about Young not ppaying again in college, completely agree, he can't do anything to improve his draft stock on the field anyway. He'll probably come back if they are in the Playoff which is fine, but I really wouldn't care if he just dropped out today and declared for the draft and neither would NFL evaluators.

[jman3134]

What is the story with him in his sophomore season? He is not getting targeted with ample opportunity out there. What gives?

[FantasyFreak]

What is the story with him in his sophomore season? He is not getting targeted with ample opportunity out there. What gives?

Poor efficiency last year. He's not a separator, and maybe the knee is affecting him. He tore his ACL less than a year ago.

[Orenthal Shames]

Isaiah Ford surpassed Preston Williams in both routes and target share in week 4.