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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby sugbear65 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:49 pm

Lotta love on here for him so maybe I need to re-evaluate. But to me, he’s not beating out Ingram for main back duties. I think that’s Ingram’s job this year, and if he falters with it they will draft another next year. That leaves the 3rd down/ COP back role. I think Hill is perfectly suited for that role, as I don’t think he has a true 3 down back. The only problem is it is that role in Baltimore. I worry about enough receptions to feed a useful WR there, let alone a RB.

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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby IZigUZag » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:36 pm

sugbear65 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:49 pm
Lotta love on here for him so maybe I need to re-evaluate. But to me, he’s not beating out Ingram for main back duties. I think that’s Ingram’s job this year, and if he falters with it they will draft another next year. That leaves the 3rd down/ COP back role. I think Hill is perfectly suited for that role, as I don’t think he has a true 3 down back. The only problem is it is that role in Baltimore. I worry about enough receptions to feed a useful WR there, let alone a RB.
Justice Hill is the reason Chris Carson was a 7th round pick. He's hyper athletic and showed both workhorse ability in college and the ability to make plays in the open field.

No idea how his game will translate to the NFL...but I think it's crazy to assume he can't beat out Ingram.

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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby sugbear65 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:48 pm

IZigUZag wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:36 pm
sugbear65 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:49 pm
Lotta love on here for him so maybe I need to re-evaluate. But to me, he’s not beating out Ingram for main back duties. I think that’s Ingram’s job this year, and if he falters with it they will draft another next year. That leaves the 3rd down/ COP back role. I think Hill is perfectly suited for that role, as I don’t think he has a true 3 down back. The only problem is it is that role in Baltimore. I worry about enough receptions to feed a useful WR there, let alone a RB.
Justice Hill is the reason Chris Carson was a 7th round pick. He's hyper athletic and showed both workhorse ability in college and the ability to make plays in the open field.

No idea how his game will translate to the NFL...but I think it's crazy to assume he can't beat out Ingram.
That’s fair, we all have our guys. I don’t see him as having workhorse ability in the NFL but I have been wrong plenty. Though I think crazy is thinking he even gets the shot to beat out Ingram, I don’t think there’s any race there and an Ingram injury is the only shot for overtaking him. Maybe in season if Ingram is really bad, but I think he’s proven enough to know that’s not the case.

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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby Ice » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:52 pm

sugbear65 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:48 pm
IZigUZag wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:36 pm
sugbear65 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:49 pm
Lotta love on here for him so maybe I need to re-evaluate. But to me, he’s not beating out Ingram for main back duties. I think that’s Ingram’s job this year, and if he falters with it they will draft another next year. That leaves the 3rd down/ COP back role. I think Hill is perfectly suited for that role, as I don’t think he has a true 3 down back. The only problem is it is that role in Baltimore. I worry about enough receptions to feed a useful WR there, let alone a RB.
Justice Hill is the reason Chris Carson was a 7th round pick. He's hyper athletic and showed both workhorse ability in college and the ability to make plays in the open field.

No idea how his game will translate to the NFL...but I think it's crazy to assume he can't beat out Ingram.
That’s fair, we all have our guys. I don’t see him as having workhorse ability in the NFL but I have been wrong plenty. Though I think crazy is thinking he even gets the shot to beat out Ingram, I don’t think there’s any race there and an Ingram injury is the only shot for overtaking him. Maybe in season if Ingram is really bad, but I think he’s proven enough to know that’s not the case.
This year he will compliment Ingrim. Ingrim is a lock starter and should have a very good year. Big fan of both players.

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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby remedy29 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:04 pm

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Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:49 am
Dixon is toast. Justice is the future and the present.
Dixon would be the most talented RB cut in the history of the NFL...ok maybe not that drastic, but talented, healthy, RBs do not get cut. I fail to see the benefit or logic for a heavy run first team to cut a very talented RB.
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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby Nanananananana » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:07 pm

remedy29 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:04 pm
Flgatorguy87 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:49 am
Dixon is toast. Justice is the future and the present.
Dixon would be the most talented RB cut in the history of the NFL...ok maybe not that drastic, but talented, healthy, RBs do not get cut. I fail to see the benefit or logic for a heavy run first team to cut a very talented RB.
Dixon’s been in the league 3 years and played 18 games. He’s averaged 50 yards a game and has 4tds, I think you need to give it up with Dixon. Dude can’t stay on the field and doesn’t do much when on it anyway.

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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby IZigUZag » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:18 pm

Ice wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:52 pm
sugbear65 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:48 pm
IZigUZag wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:36 pm


Justice Hill is the reason Chris Carson was a 7th round pick. He's hyper athletic and showed both workhorse ability in college and the ability to make plays in the open field.

No idea how his game will translate to the NFL...but I think it's crazy to assume he can't beat out Ingram.
That’s fair, we all have our guys. I don’t see him as having workhorse ability in the NFL but I have been wrong plenty. Though I think crazy is thinking he even gets the shot to beat out Ingram, I don’t think there’s any race there and an Ingram injury is the only shot for overtaking him. Maybe in season if Ingram is really bad, but I think he’s proven enough to know that’s not the case.
This year he will compliment Ingrim. Ingrim is a lock starter and should have a very good year. Big fan of both players.
Hill isn't my guy, but the case that he could be a much more talented RB than Ingram isn't hard to make :lol:

I do think Ingram was brought in for the starting gig, but Carlos Hyde was last year, as well. Derrick Ward was given huge money in FA to be the starter only to be beat out in training camp by Cadillac Williams. Plans change. I'm not going to claim it will happen, but there's definitely a chance... Ingram has been productive in recent years, but he's not a locked and loaded stud based on his earlier career struggles, and his success thus far has occurred in one of the best situations in football.

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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby jenkins.math » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:05 am

remedy29 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:04 pm
Flgatorguy87 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:49 am
Dixon is toast. Justice is the future and the present.
Dixon would be the most talented RB cut in the history of the NFL...ok maybe not that drastic, but talented, healthy, RBs do not get cut. I fail to see the benefit or logic for a heavy run first team to cut a very talented RB.
Ummm Kareem Hunt got cut and I would say he qualifies as a talented and healthy RB. Now that obviously had off field reasons, but Dixon supposedly has some turd in him. RB is the most replaceable position in the league and Dixon isnt some uber talent that the league hasn't seen. C'mon man.
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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby UATahoe » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:11 am

Justice looked really good again last night. Very impressive quickness and really good cutting ability. Speed is undeniable on the field. Showed some really tough between the tackles running as well which was good to see.
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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:47 am

Nanananananana wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:07 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:04 pm
Flgatorguy87 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:49 am
Dixon is toast. Justice is the future and the present.
Dixon would be the most talented RB cut in the history of the NFL...ok maybe not that drastic, but talented, healthy, RBs do not get cut. I fail to see the benefit or logic for a heavy run first team to cut a very talented RB.
Dixon’s been in the league 3 years and played 18 games. He’s averaged 50 yards a game and has 4tds, I think you need to give it up with Dixon. Dude can’t stay on the field and doesn’t do much when on it anyway.
This. I was a believer as well because he showed some promise. But the injuries derailed everything
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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:57 am

remedy29 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:04 pm
Flgatorguy87 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:49 am
Dixon is toast. Justice is the future and the present.
Dixon would be the most talented RB cut in the history of the NFL...ok maybe not that drastic, but talented, healthy, RBs do not get cut. I fail to see the benefit or logic for a heavy run first team to cut a very talented RB.
You better get the Ravens front office on the phone before they make this colossal mistake then. He's clearly sandbagging for the regular season as his 10 carry 35 yard stat line is misleading.

...in all seriousness, not trying to be just an asshole, but the guy is staring down the barrel at this point. I agree he is very talented, but he's never put more than a couple games together that have been separated by long injury stints. I think him being cut is the best case scenario for him. He needs a fresh start.
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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby TampaBay216 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:23 am

Hill is passing the eye test for me. Sometimes that’s all it takes in fantasy to be relevant. Do I see him overtaking Ingram, no. Can I see him beating out Dixon and getting 10-12 touches/game as early as this year, yes. Which in that case would create a nice sell high window.
I’m a fan of the player, situation, and landing spot. Now we just need a little opportunity to come his way. So far, he’s showing he deserves it.
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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby esloan35 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:54 am

I love this kid and own him on every dynasty team I have. True bellcows are hard to come by, which he is not that but a Kamara type with high RB2/low RB1 upside all day.

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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:58 pm

jenkins.math wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:05 am
remedy29 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:04 pm
Flgatorguy87 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:49 am
Dixon is toast. Justice is the future and the present.
Dixon would be the most talented RB cut in the history of the NFL...ok maybe not that drastic, but talented, healthy, RBs do not get cut. I fail to see the benefit or logic for a heavy run first team to cut a very talented RB.
Ummm Kareem Hunt got cut and I would say he qualifies as a talented and healthy RB. Now that obviously had off field reasons, but Dixon supposedly has some turd in him. RB is the most replaceable position in the league and Dixon isnt some uber talent that the league hasn't seen. C'mon man.
Or what about a healthy Alex Collins who was cut by Seattle, then made his way to Baltimore where he became the starter for a bit? Healthy/talented RB's get cut all the time. Some teams are better at talent evaluation than others, and some value different skills or abilities in their personnel.

On Hill, he slots in with guys like Thompson and Henderson for me. They're guys who could end up as a starter, but they're not what most would consider prototypical starter material physically.
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Re: Justice Hill?

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:58 pm

Hill is going to be what people wanted Darwin to be.
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