RBBC in Kansas City

[Huh]

I think the writing is on the wall for Hyde. This looks like the rb room from late last year with Darwin taking west’s spot. Wheels up for Damien and I foresee a frustratingly decent season for Darwin. Maybe similar to Hines last year. He’ll pop occasionally but who can say when. We can love that cute little runt but never forget he is a runt.

[Lord_Varys]

I think the writing is on the wall for Hyde. This looks like the rb room from late last year with Darwin taking west’s spot. Wheels up for Damien and I foresee a frustratingly decent season for Darwin. Maybe similar to Hines last year. He’ll pop occasionally but who can say when. We can love that cute little runt but never forget he is a runt.

Wouldn't make sense for the Chiefs to carry 4 RBs on their game-day roster. Can't remember the last time Reid did that. It'll be Hyde battling with Darrell Williams for the depth position. Damien can live with Darwin. Owners need to grab Darwin though on account of Damien having that funky smell about him.

[Cameron Giles]

These threads went from "Hyde might actually be the starter" to remembering that he's not that good anymore.

[Huh]

I think the writing is on the wall for Hyde. This looks like the rb room from late last year with Darwin taking west’s spot. Wheels up for Damien and I foresee a frustratingly decent season for Darwin. Maybe similar to Hines last year. He’ll pop occasionally but who can say when. We can love that cute little runt but never forget he is a runt.

Wouldn't make sense for the Chiefs to carry 4 RBs on their game-day roster. Can't remember the last time Reid did that. It'll be Hyde battling with Darrell Williams for the depth position. Damien can live with Darwin. Owners need to grab Darwin though on account of Damien having that funky smell about him.

That smell is nag champa. Some people love it, some don’t.

[MEuRaH]

These threads went from "Hyde might actually be the starter" to remembering that he's not that good anymore.

Yeah but that wasn’t based on film, just data. That’s often a bad idea in itself.

[Valhalla]

These threads went from "Hyde might actually be the starter" to remembering that he's not that good anymore.

Yeah but that wasn’t based on film, just data. That’s often a bad idea in itself.

I believe I was the only one putting up an argument for Hyde....and even I prefaced that argument with both "I believe Damien is good and will be given every opportunity to retain his starting role," and with "I'm not qualified to talk about Darwin." The only strong argument for Hyde was basically a "he is still possibly a very capable back if things fall his way" type of argument. I never argued against Darwin, as I didn't seriously put any effort into watching him and I don't like to pretend I know things that I'm just reading others say.

You are correct, though. My argument was simply putting context behind the data that was pointing out Hyde as below replacement level. If you believe Hyde looks horrible on film, I have no counter as I haven't looked at his recent film either. I suppose I just enjoy making counter arguments when I see some flaws in statistical interpretation.

[ericanadian]

Is the general consensus that Hyde is a trash RB? He had a down year in San Francisco as their line was being reworked to fit the outside zone system in 2017 and last year Hyde was playing for two trash offenses (Cleveland’s offense didn’t really come alive until Mayfield came in and even then was inconsistent.) He’s clearly not elite, but he’s shown he can be effective in the right system. His time outside of Kansas City was substantially better than where Damien Williams was coming into last year.

@Valhalla: I also stumped for Hyde on much the same grounds. I stand by my original comments and believe your comments still make sense. Thompson has looked electric, so I’m not sure that his passing Hyde is necessarily all on Hyde.

[ArrylT]

Perhaps Darwin Thompson fans should be making the argument that Darwin Thompson is passing Carlos Hyde on the depth chart IN SPITE OF Carlos Hyde rather than due to.

IE Thompson has been so good he has leapt ahead of a guy who has been average rather than he passed a guy who sucks. I'd rather have a Ferrari that is better than a Civic, than a Civic that is better than a Pinto ...

[Huh]

Perhaps Darwin Thompson fans should be making the argument that Darwin Thompson is passing Carlos Hyde on the depth chart IN SPITE OF Carlos Hyde rather than due to.

IE Thompson has been so good he has leapt ahead of a guy who has been average rather than he passed a guy who sucks. I'd rather have a Ferrari that is better than a Civic, than a Civic that is better than a Pinto ...

Yeaaaah, but it’s hyde we’re talking about and he is a pinto.

[kmbryant09]

Perhaps Darwin Thompson fans should be making the argument that Darwin Thompson is passing Carlos Hyde on the depth chart IN SPITE OF Carlos Hyde rather than due to.

IE Thompson has been so good he has leapt ahead of a guy who has been average rather than he passed a guy who sucks. I'd rather have a Ferrari that is better than a Civic, than a Civic that is better than a Pinto ...

Could be a bit of both, no?

Hyde still sucks, I'm not surprised.

But for Thompson, this is the first glimpses we have of him in the NFL. As an undersized, 6th round pick from a small school, it's always a question mark if that player's strengths are going to translate to the NFL. It's only 2 weeks, but so far his strengths seem to be translating.

That a 6th rounder has climbed to 2nd string on the depth chart - and splitting 1st team reps - before the season has even started is a compliment to that player, no matter who is/was ahead of them on the depth chart.

[Pew Dogs]

These threads went from "Hyde might actually be the starter" to remembering that he's not that good anymore.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

[Space Cowboy]

Hyde was slow as anything with Cleveland and looked dreadful. He's done.

[Valhalla]

Is the general consensus that Hyde is a trash RB? He had a down year in San Francisco as their line was being reworked to fit the outside zone system in 2017 and last year Hyde was playing for two trash offenses (Cleveland’s offense didn’t really come alive until Mayfield came in and even then was inconsistent.) He’s clearly not elite, but he’s shown he can be effective in the right system. His time outside of Kansas City was substantially better than where Damien Williams was coming into last year.

@Valhalla: I also stumped for Hyde on much the same grounds. I stand by my original comments and believe your comments still make sense. Thompson has looked electric, so I’m not sure that his passing Hyde is necessarily all on Hyde.

Yeah I agree. I still think Hyde is capable if opportunity arises. I was just pointing out that just because I was giving Hyde more of a chance than the general masses, it didn't mean I was saying Thompson had no chance. I was basically saying I didn't have a strong personal opinion on Thompson. It's tough to gauge a backfield competition if you don't have a strong opinion on each guy competing.

My sentiment isn't "Hyde is going to be the man." It's more of a "Hyde is more capable than the common statistical arguments are presenting him as and here's why."

[Pullo Vision]

CHOOOO-CHOOOOOOOOO!!!! All aboard, the Darwin train is leaving the station...

The Athletic's Nate Taylor reports Chiefs sixth-round RB Darwin Thompson "appears to have leaped" Carlos Hyde on the depth chart.

Thompson has reportedly worked ahead of Hyde at camp this week, splitting first-team reps with Damien Williams. It's further affirmation to how the Chiefs view Thompson heading into the year as coach Andy Reid recently noted the sixth-round rookie has "good vision in the run game" and a "pretty good understanding of the pass game", too. With 9/52 rushing and 1/29/1 receiving on limited usage this preseason, it would not be shocking to see Thompson start the year ahead of Williams in a third-down, change-of-pace role, reducing Williams' ceiling as fantasy's current RB13. Thompson has standalone value at the back of fantasy drafts even if he initially receives low volume out the gates. This news also makes Hyde a candidate for release once final cuts occur.

I took him 16th overall in my home league rookie draft.... on June 1st. Im conducting this hype train.

So, how many chuggas before that chooo-chooooooooo?

[TheNuts]

Are we still on the rbbc bandwagon here? I am seeing Damien Williams adp jump a full round after that one catch. He hasn't changed a lick in my mind, but he is obviously moving up. One wide open catch and run, unreal.