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Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:53 am
by FantasyFreak
Phaded wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:00 am
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:15 pm
Phaded wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:18 pm
Kyler looks pretty good.
They did exactly what they should. Quick hitting passes to get him some reps. 6.28 YPA. My grandmother could have made those throws. Really not going to know much about Kyler and the Cards until the regular season starts, when they open up their playbook and so do defences.
...are you really referring to YPA in the preseason?
Preseason is about how players look, not the stats. He looked poised, threw perfect spirals with perfect accuracy (even on the run) and went through his progressions.
His only incompletion came because KeeSean stepped out of bounds and came back in.
I watched. My point was he did everything he should do. Nothing was a surprise. A top pick should be throwing perfect spirals on 8 yard passes. To pass judgement on that drive is silly. He's got a long way to go to prove himself. Not saying he can't, just saying there is really not a lot to read into that. It was one drive of quick passes. He did a good job on them, but it's not like we didn't know Murray couldn't make those throws, especially when not under duress.
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:32 am
by meineymoe
From my seat at Lambeau:
- Dexter Williams really impressed. A very slippery runner who keeps his legs churning. He looked even better compared to Tra Carson.
- Keke Coutee had a couple of good returns and looked good on routes. One bad play was when he tried to field a punt inside the 5 which resulted in a fumble recovery in the end zone for the Packers. Unfortunately, not surprised when we saw that he was the injured player on that later play.
- Webb played the whole game and ran the offense very well, though he was an obvious step down for Watson. But he probably assured his top backup role. On a side note - if the starters can run the offense at the same pace that Houston was running in the first half, they will be very potent.
- J'Mon Moore needed that TD after Kizer had trouble with accuracy early on, and Moore dropped a pass in his hands a couple plays earlier (negated by penalty)
On the officiating front - the Packers tossed the challenge on a pass interference non-call in the end zone (new rule this year). From one angle you could see the dback was definitely interfering, but they did not reverse it. I guess they didn't want to set a precedent on a close play.... Funny thing is that the Texans had a few pass interference calls after that, including the very next play. (Makeup call?)
-oo-
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:50 am
by WhatWouldDitkaDo
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:01 pm
Blueboy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:43 pm
Kyler Murray looks legit. The whole thing in AZ looks legit.
The Arizona thing/Kyler thing. One drive that ended in a punt. That's a bit of an over reaction. Neither offences or defences (Chargers) are showing much. Murray dinked and dunked. Nothing happened.
I can't speak for all the other Murray fans, but my takeaway was this: he played well under pressure last night, even when he was backed up in his own end zone. We know that he can throw deep bombs and rack up rushing yards, so the final piece is actually playing QB and managing the offense. One drive doesn't guarantee Murray's success, but it's reassuring that he likely won't be just a Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen type who's fantasy production will depending largely on rushing yards and TDs. If he can sustain drives with only dink and dunk passes like last night, the sky's the limit once Kingsbury unleashes his gimmicks and lets Murray run free.
Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:30 am
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:20 pm
Harry with 2 nice grabs, but he looks like he'll be wearing coverage a lot. Really doesn't look like he can get open.
Im not worried about that, they knew he had troubles getting open tho, thats not his game, and its a definite area of weakness. His game, and what they drafted him for, is what he did last night, and he did it very well. If he can work on his game to get even slightly open he will be a really good WR. I think even post Brady. A rookie QB who isnt quite as accurate can just chuck those 50/50 balls up to him with trust. With that said he will only be a Second ballot HOFer after the real stud on the team Jakobi Meyers gets in on the first ballot.
This. NE isn't expecting Harry to be the next DeAndre Hopkins. They likely drafted him as Gordon insurance. Harry can make the contested catches like Gordon's TD last year where Brady just threw it up to him even though Gordon was double covered in the end zone. Edelman is great, but they needed a jump ball guy with Gronk retired and Gordon's status uncertain.
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:44 am
by Flgatorguy87
Harry is the replacement Gronk
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:58 am
by Phaded
Except Meyers is arguably vying for (and currently outperforming) the same role as Harry.
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:00 am
by problemsolver
Christian Wade is averaging 65 YPC this preseason.
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:02 am
by Phaded
problemsolver wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:00 am
Christian Wade is averaging 65 YPC this preseason.
Deserves 20 touches a game, efficiency will not falter.
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:21 am
by problemsolver
Phaded wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:02 am
problemsolver wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:00 am
Christian Wade is averaging 65 YPC this preseason.
Deserves 20 touches a game, efficiency will not falter.
I guess I can drop all my shares of Devin Singletary now
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:03 pm
by Bot101
Phaded wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:02 am
problemsolver wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:00 am
Christian Wade is averaging 65 YPC this preseason.
Deserves 20 touches a game, efficiency will not falter.
So whats his fantasy point per touch???
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:04 pm
by Bot101
meineymoe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:32 am
From my seat at Lambeau:
- Dexter Williams really impressed. A very slippery runner who keeps his legs churning. He looked even better compared to Tra Carson.
- Keke Coutee had a couple of good returns and looked good on routes. One bad play was when he tried to field a punt inside the 5 which resulted in a fumble recovery in the end zone for the Packers. Unfortunately, not surprised when we saw that he was the injured player on that later play.
- Webb played the whole game and ran the offense very well, though he was an obvious step down for Watson. But he probably assured his top backup role. On a side note - if the starters can run the offense at the same pace that Houston was running in the first half, they will be very potent.
- J'Mon Moore needed that TD after Kizer had trouble with accuracy early on, and Moore dropped a pass in his hands a couple plays earlier (negated by penalty)
On the officiating front - the Packers tossed the challenge on a pass interference non-call in the end zone (new rule this year). From one angle you could see the dback was definitely interfering, but they did not reverse it. I guess they didn't want to set a precedent on a close play.... Funny thing is that the Texans had a few pass interference calls after that, including the very next play. (Makeup call?)
-oo-
I want all the Dexter Williams hype I can handle. Ive got him stashed everywhere except 1 league.
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:14 pm
by Phaded
Bot101 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:03 pm
Phaded wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:02 am
problemsolver wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:00 am
Christian Wade is averaging 65 YPC this preseason.
Deserves 20 touches a game, efficiency will not falter.
So whats his fantasy point per touch???
12.5 by my calculation.
Future HoF.
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:20 pm
by joeya2001
Phaded wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:14 pm
Bot101 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:03 pm
Phaded wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:02 am
Deserves 20 touches a game, efficiency will not falter.
So whats his fantasy point per touch???
12.5 by my calculation.
Future HoF.
Elite Production
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:23 pm
by bjd5211
joeya2001 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:20 pm
Phaded wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:14 pm
Bot101 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:03 pm
So whats his fantasy point per touch???
12.5 by my calculation.
Future HoF.
Elite Production
That's Damien Williams level stuff, if not better. Gonna see if I can get him for Barkley, how many 1's should I expect to add?
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:37 pm
by joeya2001
bjd5211 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:23 pm
joeya2001 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:20 pm
Phaded wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:14 pm
12.5 by my calculation.
Future HoF.
Elite Production
That's Damien Williams level stuff, if not better. Gonna see if I can get him for Barkley, how many 1's should I expect to add?
Picks??
I think you need to start with 50% ownership of your team and hope hes willing to start talks!
Re: Preseason - Week 1
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:32 pm
by Nanananananana
Anyone watch Kustice Hill run for the Ravens?
His stats weren’t great but how’d he look?