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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:33 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:14 am I think this might be good long-term, but call me skeptical on being traded a month before the season as a good thing. He won't get carries over Lamar, or probably even the real backup RB, and he's kind of redundant to Keke. As usual Duke will not be a good weekly play and will most likely ride your bench. Or help you to a 4-9 season.
I'd imagine the Texans still draft a back next year. Duke is not a 250-300 touch player in the NFL. I think Miller may be gone next year, though and Duke is part of a committee or continues his COP/3rd down role he had in Cleveland.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby ninotoreS » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:34 pm

I cackled embarrassingly loudly when I saw this news ticker update on my phone. Co-workers gave me funny looks.

I'm a little bit worried about my Coutee shares in light of this, but I'm ecstatic for my D. Watson shares! So many high upside weapons for him to throw to now! Good god. And it's great for my Duke shares, obviously.

Personally, I do prefer the Texans for Duke over the Bucs (or any other team sans the Saints if Kamara were to fall into a black hole or something). I think this landing spot is ideal when factoring near and long term context equally. It's what I've been hoping for for him all offseason. Duke has a real chance to prove to Houston he should be their lead-back starting next year, with a Patriots offensive system acolyte as his head-coach for which Duke's skill-set profiles nicely. https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/11 ... 5578081280

Side note: even in a down year for Duke last season, he ranked second-best in elusive rating (94.8), behind only Chubb, and has ranked top-two in receiving missed tackles forced in three of the past four seasons.
FantasyDumDum wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:09 am Duke is ONLY relevant(and barely just so in PPR formats only) due to his pass catching.
False. You need to do more research into his analytics as a rusher, my dude.

e.g.
https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/statu ... 2482594817
https://www.pff.com/news/pro-browns-sig ... -extension

Despite the Browns never committing to using him that way, Duke has been an excellent ball-carrier all his career, both in the NFL and college. Speaking of which, guess who's Miami's all-time leading rusher? Ahead of Edge, Portis, Gore, McGahee, Ottis Anderson...
pvillebiker wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:56 am betting Duke's hammy is suddenly better too
oh yeah

Rosenhaus does it again.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby DynastyDabbler » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:05 pm

murphysxm wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:59 am
Phaded wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:12 am The emergence of Hilliard likely made him expendable.
Ding, ding, ding
Can we call Hillard a sleeper? I really like what little I've seen from Hillard. I traded for Duke in January shortly after trading for Mayfield. I wanted that passing back connection with Mayfield. Now that Duke is gone I feel the need to roster Hillard or try to buy low on Hunt.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby metalmat » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:48 pm

This does nothing but helps his tanked value obviously. Just like I argued with people about with Amari Cooper last season when he got traded to Dallas, getting traded to any other of the 31 NFL teams when the player is talented and not being used is an obvious better situation.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Deadman » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:55 pm

Was offered Dallas goedert for duke I have Ertz
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:59 pm

Deadman wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:55 pm Was offered Dallas goedert for duke I have Ertz
I think in a year or two you'll want Goedert.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby TimeWillTell » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:15 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:59 pm
Deadman wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:55 pm Was offered Dallas goedert for duke I have Ertz
I think in a year or two you'll want Goedert.
Agree. This seems fine to me pending team build.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:12 pm

If Coutee is out, does Duke get an even bigger jump?
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Phaded » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:13 pm

He might be their slot guy by default. lol

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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby ninotoreS » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:52 pm

Phaded wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:13 pm He might be their slot guy by default. lol
For real. No joke. Look at that Houston WR depth-chart.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:54 pm

MCL sprain for Coutee is the word.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby ninotoreS » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:56 pm

God, I hope so. I wondered about his Achilles for a hot minute there, based on the replay.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:02 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:56 pm God, I hope so. I wondered about his Achilles for a hot minute there, based on the replay.
Not confirmed. Video diagnosis, so it could be worse.

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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:36 pm

They often say it's a sprain. Wait for the MRI 😬
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Bot101 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:38 pm

If Keke is seriously hurt, which I truly hope he isnt, then wow Duke will be even more valuable than he was when people got excited about the trade to begin with.


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