The Always Underappreciated AJ Green Thread

[49ersFaithful80]

Seems a lot of people are randomly down on someone who was ranked in the top 5 since he came in as a rookie. Not only has Julio surpassed him, but I have a feeling he is dropping out of peoples top 5.

People will say they are down on him due to his situation (even though I thought the common theme was talent is more important than situation), but my response to that is: Dan Orlovsky to Calvin Johnson? lol

What are your thoughts?

Once in a while a very special player comes around like Calvin Johnson who is just so ridiculously talented that he can put up elite numbers regardless of his QB. AJ Green is NOT, I repeat is NOT Calvin Johnson. Everyone else other than Fitzgerald (who is also a better overall WR than AJ) needs above average QB play at a minimum for a chance to produce at an elite level. I simply have little faith in a QB like Andy Dalton who lacks the prerequisite arm strength to be a great QB to lead AJ to the promise land.

Andy Dalton will never be a top 12 QB, thus AJ will never produce top 5 numbers. Yes I understand your whole "situations change" argument but Dalton isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.

Julio >>>>> AJ

[joeday]

Seems a lot of people are randomly down on someone who was ranked in the top 5 since he came in as a rookie. Not only has Julio surpassed him, but I have a feeling he is dropping out of peoples top 5.

People will say they are down on him due to his situation (even though I thought the common theme was talent is more important than situation), but my response to that is: Dan Orlovsky to Calvin Johnson? lol

What are your thoughts?

Once in a while a very special player comes around like Calvin Johnson who is just so ridiculously talented that he can put up elite numbers regardless of his QB. AJ Green is NOT, I repeat is NOT Calvin Johnson. Everyone else other than Fitzgerald (who is also a better overall WR than AJ) needs above average QB play at a minimum for a chance to produce at an elite level. I simply have little faith in a QB like Andy Dalton who lacks the prerequisite arm strength to be a great QB to lead AJ to the promise land.

Andy Dalton will never be a top 12 QB, thus AJ will never produce top 5 numbers. Yes I understand your whole "situations change" argument but Dalton isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.

Julio >>>>> AJ

wow...everyone has opinions

So what was your answer in the poll? And for those who have AJG "Top 15" I would be curious what your top 15 WR rankings are. Where were all these anti AJG people this time last year? I feel like reading DLF and being on the forum last year actually hurt my team with these type of comments! lol

[TheOracle]

Seems a lot of people are randomly down on someone who was ranked in the top 5 since he came in as a rookie. Not only has Julio surpassed him, but I have a feeling he is dropping out of peoples top 5.

People will say they are down on him due to his situation (even though I thought the common theme was talent is more important than situation), but my response to that is: Dan Orlovsky to Calvin Johnson? lol

What are your thoughts?

Once in a while a very special player comes around like Calvin Johnson who is just so ridiculously talented that he can put up elite numbers regardless of his QB. AJ Green is NOT, I repeat is NOT Calvin Johnson. Everyone else other than Fitzgerald (who is also a better overall WR than AJ) needs above average QB play at a minimum for a chance to produce at an elite level. I simply have little faith in a QB like Andy Dalton who lacks the prerequisite arm strength to be a great QB to lead AJ to the promise land.

Andy Dalton will never be a top 12 QB, thus AJ will never produce top 5 numbers. Yes I understand your whole "situations change" argument but Dalton isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.

Julio >>>>> AJ

Except your 2011 WR1s included Percy Harvin, who was dependent on the illustrious Christian Ponder. 2010 included Brandon Lloyd (Kyle Orton!) and Dwayne Bowe (Matt Cassel!) in the Top 3, while Stevie Johnson (Fitzpatrick) was also a WR1.

Either you're saying Andy Dalton will never be as good as Matt Cassel and Kyle Orton, who've both had WRs put up Top 3 seasons, or you're saying AJG isn't as talented as Dwayne Bowe or Brandon Lloyd. Either way you're probably wrong. If you want to have him ahead of Julio that's fine, but let's not get carried away trying to make a point.

[ManuManu]

I'm getting tired of this topic but I have one question: for those that are ranking Green top 5, but not top 3, who is your number 3 WR? I'm assuming Calvin is no.1 and Julio no.2, but I can't see Nicks or Fitz above Green for no.3

This. A lot.

[joeday]

Seems a lot of people are randomly down on someone who was ranked in the top 5 since he came in as a rookie. Not only has Julio surpassed him, but I have a feeling he is dropping out of peoples top 5.

People will say they are down on him due to his situation (even though I thought the common theme was talent is more important than situation), but my response to that is: Dan Orlovsky to Calvin Johnson? lol

What are your thoughts?

Once in a while a very special player comes around like Calvin Johnson who is just so ridiculously talented that he can put up elite numbers regardless of his QB. AJ Green is NOT, I repeat is NOT Calvin Johnson. Everyone else other than Fitzgerald (who is also a better overall WR than AJ) needs above average QB play at a minimum for a chance to produce at an elite level. I simply have little faith in a QB like Andy Dalton who lacks the prerequisite arm strength to be a great QB to lead AJ to the promise land.

Andy Dalton will never be a top 12 QB, thus AJ will never produce top 5 numbers. Yes I understand your whole "situations change" argument but Dalton isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.

Julio >>>>> AJ

Except your 2011 WR1s included Percy Harvin, who was dependent on the illustrious Christian Ponder. 2010 included Brandon Lloyd (Kyle Orton!) and Dwayne Bowe (Matt Cassel!) in the Top 3, while Stevie Johnson (Fitzpatrick) was also a WR1.

Either you're saying Andy Dalton will never be as good as Matt Cassel and Kyle Orton, who've both had WRs put up Top 3 seasons, or you're saying AJG isn't as talented as Dwayne Bowe or Brandon Lloyd. Either way you're probably wrong. If you want to have him ahead of Julio that's fine, but let's not get carried away trying to make a point.

Great point Oracle...though, a little confrontational with that "carried away" comment! Come on! lol

[ManuManu]

Once in a while a very special player comes around like Calvin Johnson who is just so ridiculously talented that he can put up elite numbers regardless of his QB. AJ Green is NOT, I repeat is NOT Calvin Johnson. Everyone else other than Fitzgerald (who is also a better overall WR than AJ) needs above average QB play at a minimum for a chance to produce at an elite level. I simply have little faith in a QB like Andy Dalton who lacks the prerequisite arm strength to be a great QB to lead AJ to the promise land.

Andy Dalton will never be a top 12 QB, thus AJ will never produce top 5 numbers. Yes I understand your whole "situations change" argument but Dalton isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.

Julio >>>>> AJ

Except your 2011 WR1s included Percy Harvin, who was dependent on the illustrious Christian Ponder. 2010 included Brandon Lloyd (Kyle Orton!) and Dwayne Bowe (Matt Cassel!) in the Top 3, while Stevie Johnson (Fitzpatrick) was also a WR1.

Either you're saying Andy Dalton will never be as good as Matt Cassel and Kyle Orton, who've both had WRs put up Top 3 seasons, or you're saying AJG isn't as talented as Dwayne Bowe or Brandon Lloyd. Either way you're probably wrong. If you want to have him ahead of Julio that's fine, but let's not get carried away trying to make a point.

Great point Oracle...though, a little confrontational with that "carried away" comment! Come on! lol

I think Julio's situation helps make up the talent difference between he and Green, but I have no idea how someone can say Julio >>>>> AJ. They will be 2A, 2B behind Calvin until completely proven otherwise.

[TheOracle]

Great point Oracle...though, a little confrontational with that "carried away" comment! Come on! lol

Sorry, I'm trying to keep my insatiable fantasy football bloodlust under control.

[balaberda]

What would it take for AJG or Julio to be in the same class as Megatron? Megatron is a beast but how much production needs to happen before people put one of these guys right up there as a toss up.

And don't say there is only one Megatron I know that. But how many years or huge games does it take before people starting saying. There is only one Julio or one AJG.

[TheOracle]

What would it take for AJG or Julio to be in the same class as Megatron? Megatron is a beast but how much production needs to happen before people put one of these guys right up there as a toss up.

And don't say there is only one Megatron I know that. But how many years or huge games does it take before people starting saying. There is only one Julio or on AJG.

Probably 10 games or so?

[joeday]

What would it take for AJG or Julio to be in the same class as Megatron? Megatron is a beast but how much production needs to happen before people put one of these guys right up there as a toss up.

And don't say there is only one Megatron I know that. But how many years or huge games does it take before people starting saying. There is only one Julio or on AJG.

Probably 10 games or so?

more than 1 game maybe? lol

[balaberda]

Hahaha yes I know that Joe. I am high on both of these guys and I agree with an earlier point that after Megatron it is hard to argue against having Julio and AJG right up there. This league is full of superstars who dominate games and their positions. There is a list of guys on the way out who were up there for a long time (Jennings, Roddy, Fitz, Marshall soon)

I am excited to see which of these young WRs make massive jumps in the next year or two to get right up there (Julio, AJG, Nicks, Dez, etc)

[joeday]

Hahaha yes I know that Joe. I am high on both of these guys and I agree with an earlier point that after Megatron it is hard to argue against having Julio and AJG right up there. This league is full of superstars who dominate games and their positions. There is a list of guys on the way out who were up there for a long time (Jennings, Roddy, Fitz, Marshall soon)

I am excited to see which of these young WRs make massive jumps in the next year or two to get right up there (Julio, AJG, Nicks, Dez, etc)

Remember in the middle of 2010 when Nicks was the next Megatron? lol

[dco002]

To the people who downgrade AJG because of his quarterback... Andre Johnson has never had better then an "above average" QB. And Fitz? Same story. Julio may be sexier but Dalton is adequate enough to put Green top 3.

[TheOracle]

To the people who downgrade AJG because of his quarterback... Andre Johnson has never had better then an "above average" QB. And Fitz? Same story. Julio may be sexier but Dalton is adequate enough to put Green top 3.

Fitz DID play with Kurt Warner when he was awesome, but your point stands. People feel the need to trash one guy to support their guy, which is unfortunate.

[joeday]

not a great game but im hoping these other WRs showing something helps him out.