The Tyreek Hill Thread

[Jigga94]

Is FantasyFreak still around?

[hockeyBjj]

Those who drafted Mecole Hardman in the first round can't be feeling great at the moment. Always felt like a big reach (though the future is always uncertain).

Yup. I stayed well away from Hardman and also Henderson, as their value fluffs are do solely to unknowns about different players. End of the 1st was way to rich to role the dice on a purely situation value contingent on something else and not locked in (like D Williams seems to be at least for now)

I did get one share of D Henderson, but because he fell to the 3rd round in a 10 teamer where I believe he should have been all along

[Pac_Eddy]

If what he did was so terrible, would Goodell have let him off? I don't think so. Great news for all my teams.

I was still reading, even just a few days ago, people saying how Hill will be gone all year guaranteed.

It doesn't matter if what he did was terrible. What matters is what can be proven.

OJ was acquitted of a double murder. That doesn't mean he's innocent. It only means his guilt was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Jigga94]

As a fantasy owner I'm happy. His value should shoot right back up and I get all year production now. Although, I would've been fine with 2nd half production just as much, 0 suspension looks better than 8.

Can't help but feel this isn't over, but I still don't think I'm selling unless I get a good offer. I'll take the gamble on a league winner like Tyreek instead of settling for Robert Woods

[Orenthal Shames]

If what he did was so terrible, would Goodell have let him off? I don't think so. Great news for all my teams.

I was still reading, even just a few days ago, people saying how Hill will be gone all year guaranteed.

OJ was acquitted of a double murder. That doesn't mean he's innocent.

Whoa whoa whoa

[grandmabetty]

If what he did was so terrible, would Goodell have let him off? I don't think so. Great news for all my teams.

I was still reading, even just a few days ago, people saying how Hill will be gone all year guaranteed.

It doesn't matter if what he did was terrible. What matters is what can be proven.

OJ was acquitted of a double murder. That doesn't mean he's innocent. It only means his guilt was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Actually not. If you were speaking in strictly civilian legal terms yes but this is the NFL. What can be proven only matters to the extent that it influences Rogers thoughts. What matters is Roger Goodell's assessment and his assessment alone.

[Cameron Giles]

As a fantasy owner I'm happy. His value should shoot right back up and I get all year production now. Although, I would've been fine with 2nd half production just as much, 0 suspension looks better than 8.

Can't help but feel this isn't over, but I still don't think I'm selling unless I get a good offer. I'll take the gamble on a league winner like Tyreek instead of settling for Robert Woods

Hill's value is shot. Guarantee it never bounces back to where it was before this story broke. He's a ticking time bomb.

[smbkrypt24]

FantasyFreak as well as FantasyDumDum.
Freak- you still wish Ill will on T. Hill and my fantasy team?
Dumdum- am I still a struggling dynasty owner for buying at T. Hills low point?
I know told you so posts are bad taste, but I kept my mouth closed to pass judgement. This seems like a good time to see how your opinion might change now, if it does at all..

[Pac_Eddy]

If what he did was so terrible, would Goodell have let him off? I don't think so. Great news for all my teams.

I was still reading, even just a few days ago, people saying how Hill will be gone all year guaranteed.

OJ was acquitted of a double murder. That doesn't mean he's innocent.

Whoa whoa whoa

Ha. Nice.

[Phaded]

lol.
This is you don't panic sell for trash.

[Bot101]

So I was one who definitely didnt give Hill the benefit of the doubt, and for obvious reasons. However from the beginning I said IF he did it he should be suspended indefinitely. But IF he didnt and someone was making it up, that person should be behind bars. And according to Cecil Lammey on the Audible Live podcast, Hill wasnt even around when the child broke his arm. The Chiefs knew this, the NFL knew this yet all the media did was absolutely paint Hill with the worst brush possible.

I definitely feel pretty angry at what the media did to lead many people to the conclusion that he did do it. But I certainly rushed judgment and sold at a discount (not a heavy discount though). And what sucks is Hill was one of "my guys" that I put faith in (on the field) back when he was widely viewed as a gadget guy and that Watkins was taking his job.

But I do feel relief for his kid most of all that his Dad didnt abuse him other than spanking him with a belt which I dont view as the same as what Peterson did.

[Pac_Eddy]

If what he did was so terrible, would Goodell have let him off? I don't think so. Great news for all my teams.

I was still reading, even just a few days ago, people saying how Hill will be gone all year guaranteed.

It doesn't matter if what he did was terrible. What matters is what can be proven.

OJ was acquitted of a double murder. That doesn't mean he's innocent. It only means his guilt was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Actually not. If you were speaking in strictly civilian legal terms yes but this is the NFL. What can be proven only matters to the extent that it influences Rogers thoughts. What matters is Roger Goodell's assessment and his assessment alone.

I think what can be proven does matter to Goodwill. It may not always seems like it because he's not obligated to produce any of his evidence or reasoning to the public.

[Dynasty_Analyst]

Will the overwhelming majority that voted to take Deon cain and 200 FAAB dollars over hill in a pole I saw come foward? Lol

[greenbird]

Will the overwhelming majority that voted to take Deon cain and 200 FAAB dollars over hill in a pole I saw come foward? Lol

Too funny

[Lumps]

So I was one who definitely didnt give Hill the benefit of the doubt, and for obvious reasons. However from the beginning I said IF he did it he should be suspended indefinitely. But IF he didnt and someone was making it up, that person should be behind bars. And according to Cecil Lammey on the Audible Live podcast, Hill wasnt even around when the child broke his arm. The Chiefs knew this, the NFL knew this yet all the media did was absolutely paint Hill with the worst brush possible.

I definitely feel pretty angry at what the media did to lead many people to the conclusion that he did do it. But I certainly rushed judgment and sold at a discount (not a heavy discount though). And what sucks is Hill was one of "my guys" that I put faith in (on the field) back when he was widely viewed as a gadget guy and that Watkins was taking his job.

But I do feel relief for his kid most of all that his Dad didnt abuse him other than spanking him with a belt which I dont view as the same as what Peterson did.

The bolded part is definitely not true. That much is clear from the audio. Hill was "getting on his bleep about bleep" and then he doesn't know how his arm got broken. "Maybe he fell."

TBH, both of them should be prosecuted and the child put in better care.
She's admitting in the audio of covering up for him with a detective and with CPS in the prior incident.
They both are talking about "whopping him with a belt."
He doesn't deny his child is afraid of him. Then, he says that she should be afraid of him too.

If you are looking at it from the scope of "how did the child break his arm and that is all that matters"... sure... I guess they couldn't prove what happened. If that is all the NFL is concerned about, then no suspension I guess.

But, again, as she said in the audio, she covered up for him before. Plus, all of the above and more quotes.

So everyone puffing their chests about being right (I have no vested interest in this one way or another, and actually just care about the safety of the kid) explain why Hill isn't getting suspended but Adrian Peterson got indefinitely suspended for his disciplining. All the other facts remain (leaving out the broken arm) so how is this possible?

Rather than everyone fist bumping about being right he is some sort of upstanding citizen, we all should be even more concerned about the NFL's seemingly completely arbitrary decisions on discipline. Incognito got 2 games? Meanwhile, Gordon has been indefinitely suspended multiple times. Hunt got 8 games!?

PS: I didn't know this existed, but I found it when I was looking around for something.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/fines-suspe ... spensions/