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Re: Guice injures hamstring

Postby dynastyninja » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:29 pm

I'm trying to get caught up here, but I don't think anyone has said he's worth the 2020 1.01. Can someone quote where that was said?

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Re: Guice injures hamstring

Postby djeternal2 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:35 pm

gogobradyarm wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:52 pm Guice was a top pick from 18. If you're willing to bet on a late 20 1st as a prospect, then you have to be incredibly high on the depth of the 2020 class. If Guice plays well in 19, he could be the 2020 1.01
This is where it stems from dynastyninja. It's from page 3 and the poster doesn't say it will happen; but, speculates it could happen. I for one don't think it's possible unless Guice ends up as say a top 3 RB this year and even then it might be sketchy with the hype for 2020 already building.
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Re: Guice injures hamstring

Postby Lumps » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:28 pm

M-Dub wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:56 am
Lumps wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:16 am
Phaded wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:40 am People are actually arguing that Guice is worth 1.01 in 2020?
Wtf?
Truly baffling.

He already is injured this year.
Soft tissue issues tend to linger.
AD is still there.
Thompson is still there.
What exactly do you think he'll put up this season... keeping in mind he is rehabbing from a torn ACL after multiple infections?
So now we are at 2020.....
Incoming class of stud RBs.
Bryce Love will be fully healed from HIS ACL.
Guice is now 3 years older and done nothing.
Even if your doomsday scenario is accurate and Guice does nothing this year, how is he going to get three years older in a two-year span?
Yeah I was just thinking career years. He will be on year 3, but you're right 2 years older.

Regardless, I don't think that is "Doomsday scenario." Those are all facts. The only thing to argue is "doing nothing", and what that means. If people are talking about only taking a high 1st for him in 2020, yeah no. He is NOT going to produce to be worthy of that because of all of the above.
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Re: Guice injures hamstring

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:47 pm

M-Dub wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:56 am
Lumps wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:16 am
Phaded wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:40 am People are actually arguing that Guice is worth 1.01 in 2020?
Wtf?
Truly baffling.

He already is injured this year.
Soft tissue issues tend to linger.
AD is still there.
Thompson is still there.
What exactly do you think he'll put up this season... keeping in mind he is rehabbing from a torn ACL after multiple infections?
So now we are at 2020.....
Incoming class of stud RBs.
Bryce Love will be fully healed from HIS ACL.
Guice is now 3 years older and done nothing.
Even if your doomsday scenario is accurate and Guice does nothing this year, how is he going to get three years older in a two-year span?
The non-elite RBs age at a first rate than elite ones. In fact, when Guice was a newborn, the wear and tear he was going to suffer in college was already affecting him.
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Re: Guice injures hamstring

Postby Vcize » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:04 pm

Phaded wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:40 am People are actually arguing that Guice is worth 1.01 in 2020?
Wtf?
No. People are not arguing that.
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Re: Guice injures hamstring

Postby ArrylT » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:55 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:47 pm
M-Dub wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:56 am
Lumps wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:16 am

Truly baffling.

He already is injured this year.
Soft tissue issues tend to linger.
AD is still there.
Thompson is still there.
What exactly do you think he'll put up this season... keeping in mind he is rehabbing from a torn ACL after multiple infections?
So now we are at 2020.....
Incoming class of stud RBs.
Bryce Love will be fully healed from HIS ACL.
Guice is now 3 years older and done nothing.
Even if your doomsday scenario is accurate and Guice does nothing this year, how is he going to get three years older in a two-year span?
The non-elite RBs age at a faster rate than elite ones. In fact, when Guice was a newborn, the wear and tear he was going to suffer in college was already affecting him.
fixed it for you. :biggrin:

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Re: Guice injures hamstring

Postby grandmabetty » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:26 pm

are we still talking about this old a** RB!!!?

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Re: Guice injures hamstring

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:37 pm

grandmabetty wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:26 pm are we still talking about this old a** RB!!!?
I know. ACL, hamstring on the same leg. For a guy at his age, it only makes sense that he'll be having his hip replaced any day now.
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Release the guice

Postby Huh » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:05 pm

Guice cleared for camp. Obvious risk but he holds immense upside. Hope everybody bought before right now because his value just doubled.

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Re: Release the guice

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:46 pm

Wow, what a hero playing on only 1 leg. An inspiration to ppl everywhere.

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Re: Release the guice

Postby Huh » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:04 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:46 pm Wow, what a hero playing on only 1 leg. An inspiration to ppl everywhere.
Huh

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Re: Release the guice

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:11 pm

Huh wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:04 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:46 pm Wow, what a hero playing on only 1 leg. An inspiration to ppl everywhere.
Huh
You didn't hear the news, he injured his hamstring a few weeks ago and his leg just fell right off. I'd say it was a fluke but it happened to Gurley too. Just awful stuff. But if Luck can learn to throw left handed after his right arm fell off at the shoulder then I think Guice can learn to run on just one leg.

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Re: Release the guice

Postby GridironGuerilla » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:19 pm

Boom!
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Re: Release the guice

Postby briank » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:44 pm

Huh wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:05 pm Guice cleared for camp. Obvious risk but he holds immense upside. Hope everybody bought before right now because his value just doubled.
LOL at his price just doubled. You sound like someone desperate to trade him.
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Re: Release the guice

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:50 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:46 pm Wow, what a hero playing on only 1 leg. An inspiration to ppl everywhere.
No, he just got his leg sewn back on, so that's why his value has doubled.
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