Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby wingnutty » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:20 pm

I think your last point about longevity is a key point that rbs need to focus on in future bargaining. Really, by 30 most rbs are washed out and the way contracts are scheduled isn’t fair. I’m not saying Gordon is wrong for seeking a new high dollar contract but he simply doesn’t have the leverage to get it.

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby TB3falcons » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:26 pm

Welp, was really hoping he'd be back for week 1... I understand these guys don't want to take the punishment, but no idea how you pass up $330,000/gm. By week 10, that'll be $3.3m thrown away.
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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:50 pm

TB3falcons wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:26 pm
Welp, was really hoping he'd be back for week 1... I understand these guys don't want to take the punishment, but no idea how you pass up $330,000/gm. By week 10, that'll be $3.3m thrown away.
Just guessing at the contract values but I feel like it's pretty accurate with what others might estimate.

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:11 pm

Josina Anderson reported that "one team had preliminary trade talks with the Chargers" regarding Gordon.

Doubt there's anything real here, but who knows.

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby Bot101 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:18 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:11 pm
Josina Anderson reported that "one team had preliminary trade talks with the Chargers" regarding Gordon.

Doubt there's anything real here, but who knows.
Had discussions or is currently in discussions? I thought I read that the discussions are current.

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:20 pm

"Has held preliminary discussions"

From Rotoworld

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:28 pm

Chargers reportedly asking for a "1st and a 5th" in return, if this is true I think they don't have any real intentions of trading him and are just playing hardball with him. Obviously no one is giving up a 1st round pick for him and the Chargers know it.

Well one guy in Houston might...

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby jenkins.math » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:08 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:28 pm
Chargers reportedly asking for a "1st and a 5th" in return, if this is true I think they don't have any real intentions of trading him and are just playing hardball with him. Obviously no one is giving up a 1st round pick for him and the Chargers know it.

Well one guy in Houston might...
Didn't the Browns initially ask for 2 or 3 firsts? They traded him for a lot less. I'm sure the Chargers "asked" for that, but they won't get it.

I would think they will be lucky to get a 2nd from someone.
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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:10 pm

jenkins.math wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:08 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:28 pm
Chargers reportedly asking for a "1st and a 5th" in return, if this is true I think they don't have any real intentions of trading him and are just playing hardball with him. Obviously no one is giving up a 1st round pick for him and the Chargers know it.

Well one guy in Houston might...
Didn't the Browns initially ask for 2 or 3 firsts? They traded him for a lot less. I'm sure the Chargers "asked" for that, but they won't get it.

I would think they will be lucky to get a 2nd from someone.
For who?

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby jenkins.math » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:14 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:10 pm
jenkins.math wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:08 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:28 pm
Chargers reportedly asking for a "1st and a 5th" in return, if this is true I think they don't have any real intentions of trading him and are just playing hardball with him. Obviously no one is giving up a 1st round pick for him and the Chargers know it.

Well one guy in Houston might...
Didn't the Browns initially ask for 2 or 3 firsts? They traded him for a lot less. I'm sure the Chargers "asked" for that, but they won't get it.

I would think they will be lucky to get a 2nd from someone.
For who?
Sorry I meant the Giants trading OBJ
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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:22 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:28 pm
Chargers reportedly asking for a "1st and a 5th" in return, if this is true I think they don't have any real intentions of trading him and are just playing hardball with him. Obviously no one is giving up a 1st round pick for him and the Chargers know it.

Well one guy in Houston might...
Yeah, but I bet they would take a 3rd. They aren't stupid. There are RB's better than Gordon as prospects in next years draft, who will be on rookie deals, so they know that is way too, much. I don't see that as a serious demand, and I'm sure they are open to a counter.
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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby DJB » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:45 pm

Who's desperate to add a playmaker in the backfield because they want to tske the next step?

Gotta think Tampa would be one team. Arians ain't getting younger and they need to help Winston. That offence would be pretty dynamic.

Trouble is i think they are close to the cap.

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby DJB » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:53 pm

The only teams that have somewhat enough space and a "somewhat" need at RB are:

Dolphins - Adding a big $ RB would be dumb but its the Dolphins
Texans ' But they already traded for two RB so doubtful
Niners - Maybe flip Coleman and a pick for Gordon?
Chiefs - Doubtful with that backfield and adding Shady
Packers - My dark horse team. Im not convinced they are satisfied with that backfield. But Packers have least space @ around 11 million

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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby TB3falcons » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:27 pm

DJB wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:53 pm
The only teams that have somewhat enough space and a "somewhat" need at RB are:

Dolphins - Adding a big $ RB would be dumb but its the Dolphins
Texans ' But they already traded for two RB so doubtful
Niners - Maybe flip Coleman and a pick for Gordon?
Chiefs - Doubtful with that backfield and adding Shady
Packers - My dark horse team. Im not convinced they are satisfied with that backfield. But Packers have least space @ around 11 million
Also Chiefs- they’re not trading him to a division rival.
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Re: Melvin Gordon to hold out/demand trade without new contract

Postby DJB » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:55 pm

Great point! ^^^

Didnt even think about that


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