Nick Chubb Thread: Chubb = Stud

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the numbers can support 2 really good RBs. Even if Chubb only received 250 carries that will still put him at 11-1200 yards rushing.

He had a good game in an even-backfield split against a garbage-barrel defense.

It will be interesting to see if we are all as optimistic on his ROS outlook in 4 weeks time.

Washington Football Team, Cowboys, Colts, Steelers.

This Chubb owner feels far less optimistic.

[FantasyFreak]

the numbers can support 2 really good RBs. Even if Chubb only received 250 carries that will still put him at 11-1200 yards rushing.

He had a good game in an even-backfield split against a garbage-barrel defense.

It will be interesting to see if we are all as optimistic on his ROS outlook in 4 weeks time.

Washington Football Team, Cowboys, Colts, Steelers.

This Chubb owner feels far less optimistic.

Chubb out touched Hunt 23-12. Hunt only really became active in the running game when they had a substantial lead. Chubb should be the main back any time the game is close on either side.

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He had a good game in an even-backfield split against a garbage-barrel defense.

It will be interesting to see if we are all as optimistic on his ROS outlook in 4 weeks time.

Washington Football Team, Cowboys, Colts, Steelers.

This Chubb owner feels far less optimistic.

Chubb out touched Hunt 23-12. Hunt only really became active in the running game when they had a substantial lead. Chubb should be the main back any time the game is close on either side.

You keep saying this... but I really do have legitimate questions about how often the game is going to be "close" for the Browns this year.

I want to believe Chubb is the better back (and I do) but Hunt sure looked like he's running faster and with more juice yesterday.

I'm also ready for a colossal let down against that Football Team front 7, too.

[Sriracha]

He had a good game in an even-backfield split against a garbage-barrel defense.

It will be interesting to see if we are all as optimistic on his ROS outlook in 4 weeks time.

Washington Football Team, Cowboys, Colts, Steelers.

This Chubb owner feels far less optimistic.

Chubb out touched Hunt 23-12. Hunt only really became active in the running game when they had a substantial lead. Chubb should be the main back any time the game is close on either side.

You keep saying this... but I really do have legitimate questions about how often the game is going to be "close" for the Browns this year.

I want to believe Chubb is the better back (and I do) but Hunt sure looked like he's running faster and with more juice yesterday.

I'm also ready for a colossal let down against that Football Team front 7, too.

Chubb was dominant and he did his damage while the Bungles D was still fresh (as opposed to icing the game in the 2nd half).

It seems like CLE is intent on using them both quite a bit as they take the ball out of Mayfield's hands.

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Chubb out touched Hunt 23-12. Hunt only really became active in the running game when they had a substantial lead. Chubb should be the main back any time the game is close on either side.

You keep saying this... but I really do have legitimate questions about how often the game is going to be "close" for the Browns this year.

I want to believe Chubb is the better back (and I do) but Hunt sure looked like he's running faster and with more juice yesterday.

I'm also ready for a colossal let down against that Football Team front 7, too.

Chubb was dominant and he did his damage while the Bungles D was still fresh (as opposed to icing the game in the 2nd half).

It seems like CLE is intent on using them both quite a bit as they take the ball out of Mayfield's hands.

Except they got their lead due to Baker’s passing in the first half last night.

[FantasyFreak]

You keep saying this... but I really do have legitimate questions about how often the game is going to be "close" for the Browns this year.

I want to believe Chubb is the better back (and I do) but Hunt sure looked like he's running faster and with more juice yesterday.

I'm also ready for a colossal let down against that Football Team front 7, too.

Chubb was dominant and he did his damage while the Bungles D was still fresh (as opposed to icing the game in the 2nd half).

It seems like CLE is intent on using them both quite a bit as they take the ball out of Mayfield's hands.

Except they got their lead due to Baker’s passing in the first half last night.

Which was largely based off of Chubb's running. That's the system. PA bootlegs, etc. It's predicated on a strong running game. That OBJ TD is a prime example of it.

[Mjvb5]

Chubb was dominant and he did his damage while the Bungles D was still fresh (as opposed to icing the game in the 2nd half).

It seems like CLE is intent on using them both quite a bit as they take the ball out of Mayfield's hands.

Except they got their lead due to Baker’s passing in the first half last night.

Which was largely based off of Chubb's running. That's the system. PA bootlegs, etc. It's predicated on a strong running game. That OBJ TD is a prime example of it.

chubb averaged 5.6 YPC on 22 runs. Thats just stupid. Baker still wasnt great at all, he was good but chubbs performance was much better.

[FantasyFreak]

Except they got their lead due to Baker’s passing in the first half last night.

Which was largely based off of Chubb's running. That's the system. PA bootlegs, etc. It's predicated on a strong running game. That OBJ TD is a prime example of it.

chubb averaged 5.6 YPC on 22 runs. Thats just stupid. Baker still wasnt great at all, he was good but chubbs performance was much better.

The system they run has a pass game that really works well with a good run game. It was actually Hunt that was in on the TD to OBJ, but it's that run game that makes the passing offense go, and Chubb was really good last night.

[remedy29]

So is it situation > talent, 33 games into a players career?

Maybe talent > situation only applies to pre-draft players.

I agree that if we are grading pure running talent, Chubb is one of the best in the league. Unfortunately for Chubb and fantasy owners, his value is not only tied to his rushing ability. Chubb was 24th among RBs in receptions last year and 21st in targets. This has, and always will, limit his upside in PPR leagues.

I get what you are saying about talent vs situation, but it is not so black and white. Truth is, you can’t paint an accurate projection without a combination of both. And Hunt is in CLE for some time now. He had more receptions than Chubb in half a season last year. That caps Chubb’s upside, and if you aren’t at least considering that when looking at the value of a player, you’re missing part of the equation.

I'm not going to question your narrative, but I am going to question your decisions.

In several of your leagues you have Guice, in another you have Dobbins. Yet another had Swift. I don't know where you drafted any of these guys, but based on your philosophy, you'd draft Swift over Dobbins and Guice shouldn't have been your preferred 1.02.

Both Guice and Dobbins project to be RBs with limited receptions. Dobbins, not only has limited receptions upside, he is in a forever RBBC role. Even if Baltimore doesn't add another talented RB, Dobbins will always be second fiddle to Lamar Jackson. And if you projected Dobbins to be good at catching passes, Lamar Jackson will always be the better "check down* option and just run the ball himself.

So. Are you hoping for Dobbins to have a breakout year in year 2, or maybe year 1, and then sell him for some late 1st round draft picks?

[remedy29]

To address Chubb's situation;

I just checked their schedule, and luckily, Cleveland doesn't play Baltimore every week. In fact they play them just once more. What other team on Cleveland schedule is going to steamroll them and make Chubb useless?

Stefanski has two very talented RBs. Do you think he is going to let Baker Mayfield drop back 50 to 60 times a game? Cleveland is going to run their offense through Chubb and Hunt. Chubb is in a good situation, despite Hunt and all his talents.

[bjd5211]

To address Chubb's situation;

I just checked their schedule, and luckily, Cleveland doesn't play Baltimore every week. In fact they play them just once more. What other team on Cleveland schedule is going to steamroll them and make Chubb useless?

Stefanski has two very talented RBs. Do you think he is going to let Baker Mayfield drop back 50 to 60 times a game? Cleveland is going to run their offense through Chubb and Hunt. Chubb is in a good situation, despite Hunt and all his talents.

The Steelers x2

[remedy29]

To address Chubb's situation;

I just checked their schedule, and luckily, Cleveland doesn't play Baltimore every week. In fact they play them just once more. What other team on Cleveland schedule is going to steamroll them and make Chubb useless?

Stefanski has two very talented RBs. Do you think he is going to let Baker Mayfield drop back 50 to 60 times a game? Cleveland is going to run their offense through Chubb and Hunt. Chubb is in a good situation, despite Hunt and all his talents.

The Steelers x2

Steelers are good and their defense is legit, but they won't steamroll Cleveland like Baltimore did. In fact, I'd put a small bet that Cleveland wins one of those games.

[bjd5211]

To address Chubb's situation;

I just checked their schedule, and luckily, Cleveland doesn't play Baltimore every week. In fact they play them just once more. What other team on Cleveland schedule is going to steamroll them and make Chubb useless?

Stefanski has two very talented RBs. Do you think he is going to let Baker Mayfield drop back 50 to 60 times a game? Cleveland is going to run their offense through Chubb and Hunt. Chubb is in a good situation, despite Hunt and all his talents.

The Steelers x2

Steelers are good and their defense is legit, but they won't steamroll Cleveland like Baltimore did. In fact, I'd put a small bet that Cleveland wins one of those games.

They'll take out the running game and force Baker to beat them, and he won't.

[remedy29]

I just recheck the schedule. I'm not sure how many leagues are playing fantasy football in week 17, but in general, people shouldn't worry about that.

It's a shame that only Cleveland plays terrible game scripts for RBs.

Again, Cleveland is running their offense through their RBs, not their QB. That is a good thing for the RBs on the team...not a bad thing.

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Steelers are good and their defense is legit, but they won't steamroll Cleveland like Baltimore did. In fact, I'd put a small bet that Cleveland wins one of those games.

You will most assuredly lose that bet. That Steelers defense might be even scarier than the Ravens and just held Saquon Barkley to negative rushing yardage. Whether you think the Giants are the same, worse, or better from an O-line/RB/QB perspective, they are at the least roughly equivalent. Expect tough sledding.

I want to believe that all is well in Chubb land, but I'm smarter than that. I will predict that we will be back to DEFCON Chubb pretty soon in this thread, and perhaps as soon as post-Week 3. This WFT front 7 is for real (and if you don't believe me, you might want to go watch the condensed game).

I'm not arguing that them running their O through their RB's isn't a good thing. I'm saying the Browns themselves are not a good thing.