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Chubb value

Postby afrye1 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:28 am

A few league mates and I are discussing where Chubbs value is at this time. Every one has different opinions and they are farther apart than I imagined. What do you all say? our league is a 10 team ppr league.
Team 1
Start 1 QB 2RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 flex 1 SF
QB: L.JACKSON WILSON Mayfield Darnold
RB: BARKLEY A.JONES DRAKE lindsay Brieda James Robinson Mike Davis rojo duke n.hines, AJ Dillion
WR: NUK T.HILL Diggs Gallup Pettis t.mclaurin k.harmon Allen lazard, MVS, Van Jefferson, Joe Reed, Q.cephus,
TE: KITTLE Evan Engram Kyle Rudolph Brate Dissley Jordan Reed

6 pts for TD full PPR .25 PPC 1 pt per 10 rushing/receiving yards 1 pt per 20 passing yards

Team 2
10 team PPR league
4 pt passing td. 6 pt for all other TD.
QB: DAK, Matt Ryan, Taysom Hill
RB: Chubb, Miles Sanders, James Robinson Akers, T.coleman, Royce Freeman,Chase Edmonds, Ryquell Armstead, Joshua Kelly, L.perine,
WR: MT, Tyreek Hill, Godwin, JUJU, Mclaurin, M.Brown, Sterling Shepard, Preston Williams, PLazard, John Ross, Trequan Smith,Harmon, Ruggs, T.Higgins
TE: Kittle, Hunter Henry,OJ Howard,
K: Butker
DEF: Colts Packers Browns
start: 1 QB 2 WR 2 RB 1TE 2 flex
2021: 2x 1sts
2022: 3rd, 4th

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Re: Chubb value

Postby Sriracha » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:55 am

Depends if you think Kareem Hunt is a serious threat to his touches or not.

I don't, so I see an elite grinder on one of the best offenses in the NFL; so he's incredibly valuable to me. I have him right below Gordon/DJ

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Re: Chubb value

Postby afrye1 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:58 am

IZigUZag wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:55 am
Depends if you think Kareem Hunt is a serious threat to his touches or not.

I don't, so I see an elite grinder on one of the best offenses in the NFL; so he's incredibly valuable to me. I have him right below Gordon/DJ
Valuable enough to trade 4 firsts and a second for him? I thinks he’s very valuable and on the same page with you but I thinks overkill at this point.
Team 1
Start 1 QB 2RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 flex 1 SF
QB: L.JACKSON WILSON Mayfield Darnold
RB: BARKLEY A.JONES DRAKE lindsay Brieda James Robinson Mike Davis rojo duke n.hines, AJ Dillion
WR: NUK T.HILL Diggs Gallup Pettis t.mclaurin k.harmon Allen lazard, MVS, Van Jefferson, Joe Reed, Q.cephus,
TE: KITTLE Evan Engram Kyle Rudolph Brate Dissley Jordan Reed

6 pts for TD full PPR .25 PPC 1 pt per 10 rushing/receiving yards 1 pt per 20 passing yards

Team 2
10 team PPR league
4 pt passing td. 6 pt for all other TD.
QB: DAK, Matt Ryan, Taysom Hill
RB: Chubb, Miles Sanders, James Robinson Akers, T.coleman, Royce Freeman,Chase Edmonds, Ryquell Armstead, Joshua Kelly, L.perine,
WR: MT, Tyreek Hill, Godwin, JUJU, Mclaurin, M.Brown, Sterling Shepard, Preston Williams, PLazard, John Ross, Trequan Smith,Harmon, Ruggs, T.Higgins
TE: Kittle, Hunter Henry,OJ Howard,
K: Butker
DEF: Colts Packers Browns
start: 1 QB 2 WR 2 RB 1TE 2 flex
2021: 2x 1sts
2022: 3rd, 4th

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Re: Chubb value

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:01 am

http://mizelle.net/mfl/2019/

According to Mizelle's ADP data he is currently valued at 14th overall (2.04 in 10 team Startup), so he has significant value according to most. Now that doesn't mean he's going to rank that high (or low) for everyone as you are experiencing in your league, but ADP data is probably the best way of measuring a players value in the Dynasty community as a whole.

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Re: Chubb value

Postby dynastyninja » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:36 am

afrye1 wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:58 am
IZigUZag wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:55 am
Depends if you think Kareem Hunt is a serious threat to his touches or not.

I don't, so I see an elite grinder on one of the best offenses in the NFL; so he's incredibly valuable to me. I have him right below Gordon/DJ
Valuable enough to trade 4 firsts and a second for him? I thinks he’s very valuable and on the same page with you but I thinks overkill at this point.
Chubb is awesome, but the only guy I wouldn't trade for four 2020 1sts is Saquon. Next year you could turn those four 1sts into two Chubbs.

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Re: Chubb value

Postby Sriracha » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:38 am

dynastyninja wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:36 am
afrye1 wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:58 am
IZigUZag wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:55 am
Depends if you think Kareem Hunt is a serious threat to his touches or not.

I don't, so I see an elite grinder on one of the best offenses in the NFL; so he's incredibly valuable to me. I have him right below Gordon/DJ
Valuable enough to trade 4 firsts and a second for him? I thinks he’s very valuable and on the same page with you but I thinks overkill at this point.
Chubb is awesome, but the only guy I wouldn't trade for four 2020 1sts is Saquon. Next year you could turn those four 1sts into two Chubbs.
^

If someone offered me 3 2020 1st for Gordon or DJ I'd let them go, too.. and I have them above Chubb. 4? I'd slam that accept button so fast I might break my finger :lol:

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Re: Chubb value

Postby afrye1 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:57 am

IZigUZag wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:38 am
dynastyninja wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:36 am
afrye1 wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:58 am


Valuable enough to trade 4 firsts and a second for him? I thinks he’s very valuable and on the same page with you but I thinks overkill at this point.
Chubb is awesome, but the only guy I wouldn't trade for four 2020 1sts is Saquon. Next year you could turn those four 1sts into two Chubbs.
^

If someone offered me 3 2020 1st for Gordon or DJ I'd let them go, too.. and I have them above Chubb. 4? I'd slam that accept button so fast I might break my finger :lol:
Haha oh god there is zero chance I’d be giving 4 2020 firsts up for him. This guys was talking 2 late firsts this year and 2 late firsts next year.

Edit: even this I think is crazy talk!!
Team 1
Start 1 QB 2RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 flex 1 SF
QB: L.JACKSON WILSON Mayfield Darnold
RB: BARKLEY A.JONES DRAKE lindsay Brieda James Robinson Mike Davis rojo duke n.hines, AJ Dillion
WR: NUK T.HILL Diggs Gallup Pettis t.mclaurin k.harmon Allen lazard, MVS, Van Jefferson, Joe Reed, Q.cephus,
TE: KITTLE Evan Engram Kyle Rudolph Brate Dissley Jordan Reed

6 pts for TD full PPR .25 PPC 1 pt per 10 rushing/receiving yards 1 pt per 20 passing yards

Team 2
10 team PPR league
4 pt passing td. 6 pt for all other TD.
QB: DAK, Matt Ryan, Taysom Hill
RB: Chubb, Miles Sanders, James Robinson Akers, T.coleman, Royce Freeman,Chase Edmonds, Ryquell Armstead, Joshua Kelly, L.perine,
WR: MT, Tyreek Hill, Godwin, JUJU, Mclaurin, M.Brown, Sterling Shepard, Preston Williams, PLazard, John Ross, Trequan Smith,Harmon, Ruggs, T.Higgins
TE: Kittle, Hunter Henry,OJ Howard,
K: Butker
DEF: Colts Packers Browns
start: 1 QB 2 WR 2 RB 1TE 2 flex
2021: 2x 1sts
2022: 3rd, 4th

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Re: Chubb value

Postby Phaded » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:59 am

He is somewhere in that second tier.. The 6-10 range; whatever you'll pay for that.

4 1sts is insane.

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Re: Chubb value

Postby John Paul » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:33 am

10 Team PPR Dynasty (2012 Startup) 2018 1st 2019 2nd
1 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 1 Flex, K, LB, DB, DL(11 starters total)(30 Man Rosters, 1 IR)

QB: Joe Burrow(Trade '20), Alex Smith(WW/'20), Gardner Minshew(Trade'20), Taysom Hill(WW'20)
RB: Todd Gurley(1.04/'15), Joe Mixon(Trade'18), AJ Dillon(3.03/'20), Raheem Mostert(WW/'19), Kenyan Drake(Trade'20), Chase Edmunds(WW/'20), Jerrick McKinnon(WW/'20), Darrell Henderson(WW/'20)
WR: Julio Jones(Trade '20), Mike Evans(Trade '18), Cooper Kupp(Trade '18), Allen Robinson (Trade '19), Brandin Cooks(trade'20), Parris Campbell(1.10/'19), Andy Isabella(2.02/'19), Darnell Mooney(WW'20), Travis Fulgham(WW'20)
TE: Mark Andrews(WW/'19), Darren Waller(WW/'19)
K: Guy not on a bye
LB: Fred Warner(WW/'19), Zach Cunningham(WW/'20)
DB: Jabril Peppers(WW/'19), John Johnson(WW/'20)
DL: Danielle Hunter(WW/'20) [IR], Chase Young(3.08/'20), Brian Burns(WW/'20)

Drop 5, draft 5
2021: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3
2022: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Chubb value

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:15 am

There is no reason he couldn't be the 1.1 in startups the next few years.



"The roof is the ceiling"
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021

Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted

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Re: Chubb value

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:33 am

MrUbuto wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:15 am
There is no reason he couldn't be the 1.1 in startups the next few years.



"The roof is the ceiling"
I can think of at least one, he plays in NY.

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Re: Chubb value

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:37 am

bjd5211 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:33 am
MrUbuto wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:15 am
There is no reason he couldn't be the 1.1 in startups the next few years.



"The roof is the ceiling"
I can think of at least one, he plays in NY.
I was talking about chubb.

He has all the kills. All the opportunity and despite the narrative can catch balls just fine.
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021

Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted

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Re: Chubb value

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:38 am

MrUbuto wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:37 am
bjd5211 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:33 am
MrUbuto wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:15 am
There is no reason he couldn't be the 1.1 in startups the next few years.



"The roof is the ceiling"
I can think of at least one, he plays in NY.
I was talking about chubb.

He has all the kills. All the opportunity and despite the narrative can catch balls just fine.
And he's not ever going to be more valuable than Saquon Barkley.

And therefore will never be the 1.01 in a startup.

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Re: Chubb value

Postby djeternal2 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:46 am

bjd5211 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:33 am
MrUbuto wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:15 am
There is no reason he couldn't be the 1.1 in startups the next few years.



"The roof is the ceiling"
I can think of at least one, he plays in NY.
Eh I think Eli tops out at 1.02. Maybe in SF he goes 1.01.
10 tm ppr 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, TE, K, TDEF (Yr 6)
QB - Ryan, Wentz
RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, I Smith, Armstead, T Carson
WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Godwin, Callaway, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, I Smith, Herndon, Eifert, Sternberger, Dissly

10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
QB - Mahomes, Mayfield, Wentz,
RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Gallup, K Johnson
TE - Njoku, Eifert, Herndon, I Smith, I Thomas, Moreau
DL - Watt, K Clark, Q Williams
LB - D Jones, D Bush
DB - K Neal, Bell

DLF Early Birds - 16 tm SF (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB - A Rodgers, Darnold, Rosen, M Rudolph, Luck
RB - Damian Williams, J Howard, Duke, AP, Gore
WR - Julio, Golladay, Kirk, Stills, Manny Sanders, N Harry
TE - Jarwin, Gesicki, Boyle, Sprinkle

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Re: Chubb value

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:59 am

chubb is a hold unless you are getting some gross overpay. competing, middling, or rebuild i wouldnt wanna move him in a lateral move unless i was so set at rb it was sily not to move one.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
J Allen , Herbert, Rivers
Kamara, B Hill, Akers,McNichols, Dillon, Cohen, McCoy
K Allen, Hopkins,McLaurin, AROB M Williams,MVS
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Teddy B, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Burkhead, Mostert, wilson jr
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans,AROB, C Davis, Watkins, Edleman, Higgins
Ertz, Gronk, Fant, everett, albert o


team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Baker, Wentz, Foles, K Allen
Kamara, Henry, Chubb, Bell, Murray, Coleman
M Thomas, K Allen, M Evans, JuJu, Cooper, Watkins
Hurst, Gronk, Ebron, Everett
Payne/Onyemata
Campbell, Ogbah, J Allen, Clowney, Armstead
Martinez, J Smith, Z Smith, Jack, Judon, C Jones (IR)
Alexander, Dean, Ward
Edmonds, Harris, Joseph, Delpit (IR)


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