What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

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What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:04 am

I play in two leagues, one has their draft immediately after the NFL draft and I was not used to that and thought I would not like it. But since I am a football junkie, I realized that this was a huge advantage for those who football crazy and use the draft to mitigate the withdrawl symptoms of the football season being over.

It got me to wondering what other type of league settings benefit those who are prepared instead of just dumb luck? When I go to the join a league forum, a tons of orphans seem to be auction. Is that because it is popular or you get lots of drop outs and a high turn over rate?

What type of league settings lend to league stability? Is it a high buy in that is refundable after 5 years to prevent guys from drafting all old but very productive guys in the start up so they can win now and then drop out in two years when their team is an old pile of nothing and you have to go slepping for an owner of an orphan that is devoid of any assets?
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,


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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby honcho55 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:57 pm

Seems to me like anything past a ‘standard’ league trips people up in general. PPR variations not so much, but just about anything else: ppc, different qb TD points than 4, SF, IDP, etc. I’m general I feel like even solid fantasy owners can run into problems here. And I’d agree things like salary cap/contracts is probably the most complex thing out there and, as such, where the answer to your question is.
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT

QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy

1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:38 am

I am curious, do salary cap/contract leagues have more stable GM's and I am thinking it is quicker to turn a dog team around in a salary cap league as opposed to just a straight full roster keeper?
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby Kcarr » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:15 am

I think salary cap leagues actually may limit some of the long term issues with gms not doing their homework. It may set a higher barrier to be competitive but once that is reached the effects of both good and bad moves are capped to the length of the contract.

I think anything that adds depth to a league removes luck and increases the value of knowledge whether it is adding idp, editing that idp to make all positions more similar in value, adding superflex, more starting reqs, deeper benches, any of these will add complexity and therefore a benefit to gms who really dive in
4th and long: ppr, 10 team, qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, wr, flex, flex, te, k, dl, dl, lb, lb, db, db, dflex, dflex

QB: Kirk Cousins Tyrod Taylor, Jared Goff
RB: Melvin Gordon, Ezekiel Elliot, Theo Riddick, D'Onta Foreman, James Conner, Jamal Williams
WR: Alshon Jeffrey, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins, Keenan Allen, Jordan Matthews, Cole Beasley, Robby Anderson, Corey Davis, Breshad Perriman, Eli Rogers
TE: Eric Ebron, , David Njoku, Jack Doyle
K: Will Lutz
DL: Frank Clark, Danielle Hunter
LB: Luke Kuechley, Bobby Wagner, Jordan Hicks, Mark Barron, Darron Lee
DB: Sean Davis, Morgan Burnett,

IR: Clayton Geathers, Quincy Enunwa, Raekwon McMillan

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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby Paul717 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:12 pm

Shallow leagues, those where useful players can be found on the waiver wire, are probably better for "office" settings or fun / free type leagues.

GMs who do their homework can benefit in deeper leagues, where they can scoop up young players who will be useful in a year or 2. And where opponents can't easily find useful players on the wire.
"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 :cry: , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions

Picks:
2024: All my picks except 3rd rounder

Disclaimer: My one and only Championship in this league was way back in 2011. Therefore, take my replies with the appropriate grain of salt. :lol:

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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:35 pm

Deeper rosters
Deeper starting lineups
Superflex/TE Premium/IDP
Auctions
Salary Cap

All things that reward owners who do there homework
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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:48 pm

Kcarr wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:15 am I think salary cap leagues actually may limit some of the long term issues with gms not doing their homework. It may set a higher barrier to be competitive but once that is reached the effects of both good and bad moves are capped to the length of the contract.

I think anything that adds depth to a league removes luck and increases the value of knowledge whether it is adding idp, editing that idp to make all positions more similar in value, adding superflex, more starting reqs, deeper benches, any of these will add complexity and therefore a benefit to gms who really dive in
Exactly.

IDP gives a huge benefit to owners who do their homework.

I don’t play Devy but you’d certainly have to be on your toes there (although I suppose most devy owners know their stuff...?)
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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