What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

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What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:04 am

I play in two leagues, one has their draft immediately after the NFL draft and I was not used to that and thought I would not like it. But since I am a football junkie, I realized that this was a huge advantage for those who football crazy and use the draft to mitigate the withdrawl symptoms of the football season being over.

It got me to wondering what other type of league settings benefit those who are prepared instead of just dumb luck? When I go to the join a league forum, a tons of orphans seem to be auction. Is that because it is popular or you get lots of drop outs and a high turn over rate?

What type of league settings lend to league stability? Is it a high buy in that is refundable after 5 years to prevent guys from drafting all old but very productive guys in the start up so they can win now and then drop out in two years when their team is an old pile of nothing and you have to go slepping for an owner of an orphan that is devoid of any assets?
10 Team, 1 pt PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 Flex

QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB: Gurley, Barkley, Elliott, McGuire, Davis. M, Montgomery, Dixon, Edmonds, Adams, Clement
WR: M. Thomas, JuJu, Cooks, Cooper, Godwin, Foster, Allison, Bourne
TE: Henry, Rudolph, Hurst
2019 (4 first round picks: two high, two mid)
2020 (2 first round picks: one high, one low)


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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby honcho55 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:57 pm

Seems to me like anything past a ‘standard’ league trips people up in general. PPR variations not so much, but just about anything else: ppc, different qb TD points than 4, SF, IDP, etc. I’m general I feel like even solid fantasy owners can run into problems here. And I’d agree things like salary cap/contracts is probably the most complex thing out there and, as such, where the answer to your question is.
my main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -4 for INT
14 team
start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT. Roster 15, 2 IR. keep 10 every year (must keep one each pos) *transitioning to more keepers/full dyno over a couple years

QB: Wilson, Carr
RB: E Elliot, D Henry, M Ingram, R Armstead, M Brown, R Mostert
WR. O. Beckham, J Smith-Schuster, M Thomas, P Williams
TE. T Kelce, D Goedert

2020 picks: three 1sts, three 3rds
(Project 1 top 3, one early-mid, one mid-late)
2021: two 1sts, three 2s, 3, two 4s
2022: three 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:38 am

I am curious, do salary cap/contract leagues have more stable GM's and I am thinking it is quicker to turn a dog team around in a salary cap league as opposed to just a straight full roster keeper?
10 Team, 1 pt PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 Flex

QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB: Gurley, Barkley, Elliott, McGuire, Davis. M, Montgomery, Dixon, Edmonds, Adams, Clement
WR: M. Thomas, JuJu, Cooks, Cooper, Godwin, Foster, Allison, Bourne
TE: Henry, Rudolph, Hurst
2019 (4 first round picks: two high, two mid)
2020 (2 first round picks: one high, one low)

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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby Kcarr » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:15 am

I think salary cap leagues actually may limit some of the long term issues with gms not doing their homework. It may set a higher barrier to be competitive but once that is reached the effects of both good and bad moves are capped to the length of the contract.

I think anything that adds depth to a league removes luck and increases the value of knowledge whether it is adding idp, editing that idp to make all positions more similar in value, adding superflex, more starting reqs, deeper benches, any of these will add complexity and therefore a benefit to gms who really dive in
4th and long: ppr, 10 team, qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, wr, flex, flex, te, k, dl, dl, lb, lb, db, db, dflex, dflex

QB: Kirk Cousins Tyrod Taylor, Jared Goff
RB: Melvin Gordon, Ezekiel Elliot, Theo Riddick, D'Onta Foreman, James Conner, Jamal Williams
WR: Alshon Jeffrey, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins, Keenan Allen, Jordan Matthews, Cole Beasley, Robby Anderson, Corey Davis, Breshad Perriman, Eli Rogers
TE: Eric Ebron, , David Njoku, Jack Doyle
K: Will Lutz
DL: Frank Clark, Danielle Hunter
LB: Luke Kuechley, Bobby Wagner, Jordan Hicks, Mark Barron, Darron Lee
DB: Sean Davis, Morgan Burnett,

IR: Clayton Geathers, Quincy Enunwa, Raekwon McMillan

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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby Paul717 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:12 pm

Shallow leagues, those where useful players can be found on the waiver wire, are probably better for "office" settings or fun / free type leagues.

GMs who do their homework can benefit in deeper leagues, where they can scoop up young players who will be useful in a year or 2. And where opponents can't easily find useful players on the wire.
"Marathon Square" - 16 team full PPR league with 24 player roster. Keep 16 per year indefinitely, draft 8. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team DST
QB: Deshaun Watson, AJ McCarron
RB: Aaron Jones, Peyton Barber, Jalen Richard, Cordarrelle Patterson, Trayveon Williams, DeAndre Washington, Jordan Scarlett
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jamison Crowder, Emmanuel Sanders, A.J. Brown, Geronimo Allison, James Washington, DaeSean Hamilton, Paul Richardson, Riley Ridley, Antonio Brown :(
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Jordan Akins
K: Matt Gay
Team DST: Lions, Bengals

Picks:
2020: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 5th, 5th, 5th, 8th

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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby JOHNNY_COCKTAIL » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:35 pm

Deeper rosters
Deeper starting lineups
Superflex/TE Premium/IDP
Auctions
Salary Cap

All things that reward owners who do there homework
12 Team PPR (PPR- QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, FLEX, D, K)
QB- Winston
RB- Barkely, Cook, AP
WR- K. Allen, Hill, Diggs, Golladay, DJ Moore, Shepard, Enunwa, Callaway, Chark
TE- Kelce, Gesicki

10 Team .5 PPR. QB Premium. Added Big Play Points (QB, RB, WR, TE, 3 FLEX (non qb), D, K)
QB- Brees, Mayfield, Prescott
RB- Barkley, Cook, Dixon, I. Smith
WR- OBJ, D. Adams, Evans, B. Cooks, Kupp, C. Davis, Godwin, Boyd, Fuller, J. Gordon, Gallup
TE: Mike Gesicki, Vance McDonald

12 Team. Superflex. TE Premium. PPR. (QB, SF, 2-4 RB, 2-4 WR, TE)
QB: Wilson, Ryan, Eli, Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley, Mixon, Ekelar, I. Smith, D. Lewis, Gio
WR: Hill, Evans, KA, Metcalf, M. Brown, Whiteside, Agholor, D. Robinson
TE: McDonald, Reed, Hurst, Everett

12 team. PPR. Superflex.
(1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 3 Flex, TE)
QB: Luck, Wilson, Lock, Fitzpatrick
RB: Joe Mixon, Josh Jacobs, D. Lewis, J. Richard
WR: Mike Evans, Hill, Cooks, M.Brown, Gallup, Ross, Richardson
TE: Kelce, Everett, Smith

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Re: What type of league has the most advantages for GM's who do their homework?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:48 pm

Kcarr wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:15 am
I think salary cap leagues actually may limit some of the long term issues with gms not doing their homework. It may set a higher barrier to be competitive but once that is reached the effects of both good and bad moves are capped to the length of the contract.

I think anything that adds depth to a league removes luck and increases the value of knowledge whether it is adding idp, editing that idp to make all positions more similar in value, adding superflex, more starting reqs, deeper benches, any of these will add complexity and therefore a benefit to gms who really dive in
Exactly.

IDP gives a huge benefit to owners who do their homework.

I don’t play Devy but you’d certainly have to be on your toes there (although I suppose most devy owners know their stuff...?)
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
RIVERS, Mayfield, Jimmy G, Brees, Dalton
COOK/MIXON/GORDON/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, B Hill, Ollison, D. Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY, Sammy, Edelman, Pettis, Slayton, Pascal, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, Herndon, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Haskins, Rosen, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON/GORDON
NUK/OBJ/EVANS/HOLLYWOOD/LANDRY/WATKINS, Coutee, J Reynolds, Latimer
NJOKU/HERNDON, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter and then a bunch of maybes for IDP


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