Sell Now Players!!!

[bjd5211]

i've seen lamar go for dj moore straight up (1QB, 14 teams).

I would be willing to pay that in that format.

[MrUbuto]

Now I'm really curious.

Anyone recently seen any trades for him or had offered rejected etc?

I gotta figure hes in the 3 mid first and a 2nd or 2 range right?

Who, Lamar?

Honestly no idea, I've had no discussions regarding Lamar in my leagues I own him and he hasn't been moved in any of the leagues I don't own him.

He's my #2 QB behind Mahomes though, and he is closer to surpassing Mahomes than my #3 (Watson) is to surpassing Lamar.

You should strongly consider trading one of those guys. Probably lamar gives you the biggest haul. I think 2 1st is a starting point

[bjd5211]

I'm saying in my rankings lol.

I do have a team with both Mahomes and Lamar, but it's SF so I'm very happy.

[Pullo Vision]

Now I'm really curious.

Anyone recently seen any trades for him or had offered rejected etc?

I gotta figure hes in the 3 mid first and a 2nd or 2 range right?

A gold member who has access to this site's trade finder could find that out... @bjd5211.

[bjd5211]

Now I'm really curious.

Anyone recently seen any trades for him or had offered rejected etc?

I gotta figure hes in the 3 mid first and a 2nd or 2 range right?

A gold member who has access to this site's trade finder could find that out... @bjd5211.

Nah my subscription has expired.

[Blueboy]

Now I'm really curious.

Anyone recently seen any trades for him or had offered rejected etc?

I gotta figure hes in the 3 mid first and a 2nd or 2 range right?

A gold member who has access to this site's trade finder could find that out... @bjd5211.

Recent trades I'm seeing include:

16-team with IDP. Trade finder shows 1QB, but I have to assume it's a Superflex
Give: Lamar Jackson, Matt Breida, 2020 4th
Get: Alvin Kamara, Chris Godwin

12-team 1QB
Give: Lamar Jackson, 2020 2nd
Get: 2020 1st, 2021 1st

12-team 1QB

Give: Lamar Jackson
Get: Carson Wentz + 2020 1st, 2nd, 3rd

12-team Superflex
Give: Lamar Jackson, Chris Carson
Get: Saquon Barkley

12-team 1QB:
Give: Lamar Jackson
Get: Melvin Gordon + Philip Rivers

12-team 1QB:
Give: Lamar Jackson
Get: Gardner Minshew, Irv Smith, 2023 2nd

Chose these pretty much at random, all from November. His value is all over the place.

[Pullo Vision]

Now I'm really curious.

Anyone recently seen any trades for him or had offered rejected etc?

I gotta figure hes in the 3 mid first and a 2nd or 2 range right?

A gold member who has access to this site's trade finder could find that out... @bjd5211.

Recent trades I'm seeing include:

16-team with IDP. Trade finder shows 1QB, but I have to assume it's a Superflex
Give: Lamar Jackson, Matt Breida, 2020 4th
Get: Alvin Kamara, Chris Godwin

12-team 1QB
Give: Lamar Jackson, 2020 2nd
Get: 2020 1st, 2021 1st

12-team 1QB

Give: Lamar Jackson
Get: Carson Wentz + 2020 1st, 2nd, 3rd

12-team Superflex
Give: Lamar Jackson, Chris Carson
Get: Saquon Barkley

12-team 1QB:
Give: Lamar Jackson
Get: Melvin Gordon + Philip Rivers

12-team 1QB:
Give: Lamar Jackson
Get: Gardner Minshew, Irv Smith, 2023 2nd

Chose these pretty much at random, all from November. His value is all over the place.

Thanks bjd and Blueboy!

Some of those trades are meh (like the Gordon one) but that minshew one is awful. Come to think of it, don't like any of the 1QB ones. I love that st one- like getting that 4th tipped the scales, lol.

[MrUbuto]

I do all those for Jackson minus the Kamara one

[jenkins.math]

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but my sell now would be Lamar Jackson. I can't ever see his value being higher than it is currently. Even if I was a contender I would ride him the rest of this year and then sell for as much as I could get in the offseason.

I get this take, trust me i do, and ive had these same thoughts as a Lamar owner sometimes but this is FAR easier said than done if you have the guy on your roster. Right or wrong in your eyes the owners look at him like Pat Mahomes, and no one wants to sell Mahomes either.

I had the same stance on Mahomes last season that I currently do with Lamar Jackson. I advocated selling high on Mahomes because the way he seemed to be viewed and valued was 50 TD seasons would be the norm. I thought he would still be a good asset, but the deals some were passing up only made sense to pass on if Mahomes was going to be the QB1 every year for the next 5. He has been good this year but QB5 or so is totally different than what happened last season.

I feel the same about Lamar. I don't think he will duplicate this next season. That isn't saying he will be bad, but unless he is the QB1 or 2 overall, I can find another QB that won't be the reason I lose a week.

[jenkins.math]

I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but my sell now would be Lamar Jackson. I can't ever see his value being higher than it is currently. Even if I was a contender I would ride him the rest of this year and then sell for as much as I could get in the offseason.

This is a fair mindset, but I'm not shopping or selling him unless I get an offer I truly cannot refuse. I invested heavily in Lamar in his rookie draft because of the immense fantasy potential I saw, and now he is already living up to it if not exceeding sooner than I thought was possible. Now he could very well regress for a myriad of reasons, or he could prove that he is legit and continue being a fantasy monster for years to come. I would rather hold and bet on his immense upside and accept the risk of him regressing, than sell and bet on his regression and watch him go on to be an absolute star for someone else. That's just me and my style of play though, most people around here are a lot more cautious and conservative.

It's fine to bet on his upside, but it's almost a certainty there will be statistical regression. Look at Mahomes this season. Look at Baker. Remember Carson Wentz 2 years ago? QBs seem to have this one insane statistical year where they blow everyone else out of the water, but then it's back to the pack. Cam Newton is a prime example of his MVP year where he won leagues but was right back to the pack after that.

I can't remember specifics, but over the last decade I think there have only been 3 QBs to have at least 3 top 5 QB finishes on the season. I think Luck and Rodgers were 2 of them but I don't remember the 3rd. It may have been Peyton, but I can't recall. When people are paying QB1 overall prices, it's foolish not to take those offers. You call it "cautious and conservative" where I just see the data trends and probabilities as making his regression likely and the norm. I actually think its more cautious to hold what you have than to sell off a player coming off a career year. Especially at a young age.

[bjd5211]

I'm not saying Lamar (or Mahomes) will be the #1 QB in scoring every year, but I'm confident they'll be in the mix every year and are the best bets to do so. The leagues I own Lamar I've already done extensive work in acquiring picks and assets that I feel very good about my depth over the long-term and am not really looking to move a high end starter for more depth. So sure if Lamar is one of your few assets it makes sense to turn him into multiple pieces, but ultimately depth only goes so far and at some point your focus needs to be on having the best possible lineup and very few QBs can match the scoring potential of Lamar Jackson.

[hoos89]

Jackson kind of reminds me of rookie RG3.

[Patsfan86]

I actually think Lamar has a better chance of being more consistent for fantasy purposes than Mahomes does, just due to his rushing ability. Mahomes is still the better real life QB.

[thebeast]

Jackson kind of reminds me of rookie RG3.

If you mean body type, color, and height maybe but their games aren't really similar.

[thebeast]

I'm not saying Lamar (or Mahomes) will be the #1 QB in scoring every year, but I'm confident they'll be in the mix every year and are the best bets to do so. The leagues I own Lamar I've already done extensive work in acquiring picks and assets that I feel very good about my depth over the long-term and am not really looking to move a high end starter for more depth. So sure if Lamar is one of your few assets it makes sense to turn him into multiple pieces, but ultimately depth only goes so far and at some point your focus needs to be on having the best possible lineup and very few QBs can match the scoring potential of Lamar Jackson.

I think we saw Mahomes ceiling last year, which is a nice ceiling for sure. I don't believe we have seen Lamar's ceiling yet.