Superficial Studs

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby ninotoreS » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:16 pm

CJ Spiller.

I could've sold him for so damn much after that one great season. I had a few people in my league telling me they'd take him as the first overall pick in a startup draft.

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby Gtdano_14 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:07 am

Lol, some of these names thrown out were never even considered to be studs. Not even during the annual off-season hype festival.
16 Team PPR 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 TE - 1 Flex
QB- R.Wilson
RB- D. Cook, D. Freeman, J. McKinnon, D. Johnson, A. Collins, I. Smith, J. Kelly, R. Thomas, M. Boone, K. Bibbs
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, K.Stills, C. Sutton, J. Doctson, D. Cain, Dez, C. Meredith, J. Watson, R. James
TE- G. Kittle, C. Herndon, D. Harris
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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:31 am

Lol CJ Spiller...

Mine was Eddie Lacy
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Baker, D. Jones, Minshew, Luck (IR)
RB: Sony, D. Freeman, Penny, Ballage, Gaskin
WR: Tyreek, Julio, D.J. Moore, Cooks, Hollywood, C. Davis, MVS, Parris, Hamilton, Preston (IR)
TE: Andrews, Henry, Fant
2020: 1, 2, 3, 4, 4

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Dak, Ryan, Foles, Minshew, Cam (IR)
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Penny, Hunt, J. Samuels, J. Jackson
WR: D.J. Moore, Mike Will, Hollywood, C. Davis, MVS, Deebo, Diontae, KeeSean, AB, Parris (IR)
TE: Andrews, Henry, Jonnu, Gesicki
2020: 1, 2, 2
2021: 1, 1, 2, 3

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby ericanadian » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:09 am

Almost forgot about Josh Gordon.
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QB - Mariota, Stafford
RB - Gordon, Cook, Penny, Guice, Harris
WR - Julio, C. Davis, Watkins, Samuel, Lee, Washington, Di. Johnson
TE - Henry, Andrews
LB - Kuechly, R. Smith
DL - Ansah, Hunter, Cox
DB - D. James, Baker, Edmunds, Walker
K - Just a stupid kicker

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby Ray Finkle » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:17 am

Aaron Hernandez killed it for a couple seasons.

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby Phaded » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:38 am

I actually had a hard time coming up with this and I have gotten a lot better with this over time and it is not really a big issue for me anyone.

CPatt was probably the biggest one for me.

Players I gave up on prematurely however.. I have a laundry list of those.
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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby Ruggenater » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:27 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:16 pm
Michael Floyd.

Surprised I have not seen Gio yet. After his rookie year I think he was a top 5 dynasty back.
Gio and then Jeremy Hill :(

I thought Randall Cobb was going to continue being awesome after his huge year. He didn't.
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: Rodgers, L Jackson, J Allen, Dalton, Tannehill, Stidham
RB: Michel, Montgomery, Mattison, L Miller, Foreman, Armstead, Gaskin, Edmunds
WR: Hopkins, Julio, A Robinson, Watkins, Lockett, Allison, Dorsett, Conley
TE: Kelce, Herndon, Gesicki, J Smith, I Thomas

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby joeya2001 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:28 am

Peyton Hillis lmao
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR

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QB- Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson, Philip Rivers, Jimmy G,
RB- Nick Chubb, Sony Michael, Matt Berida, Chase Edmonds
WR- OBJ, Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Julio Jones, Sammy Watkins, Emmanuel Sanders, Preston Wilson, Corey Davis, Josh GOrdon
TE- George Kittle,Darren Waller
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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby Pet_Smith » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:39 am

Kelvin Benjamin - put up some numbers in his rookie season, but definitely superficial
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QB Mahomes [4.10 '17], Darnold [trade]
RB Gurley[1.03 'startup], KJ [Trade] Lindsay [FA], Howard [12.10 'startup], Samuels (TS) [trade], Smith [3.07 '18], Harris [1.12 '19], Homer (TS) [FA], Ozigbo [5.11 '19] (TS), Anderson (IR) [2.11 '19]
WR Edelman [trade], DJ Moore [1.10 '18], Golladay [3.01 '17], C Davis (1.03 '17), Sutton [1.11 '18], Metcalf [1.11 '19], Kumerow [FA], Snead [FA], Meyer [FA], T Smith (TS) [trade], Calloway (TS) [2.08 '18]
TE Burton [FA], Brate [FA], Butt (IR) [3.11 '17], Sternberger (TS) [3.11 '19], Warring (TS) [4.12 '19]
K Elliot [FA]
DE/DT Hunter [FA]
LB J Smith [FA], R Smith [FA]
C/S Poyer [FA], D James (IR) [FA]

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby Vcize » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:46 am

This is what my ex-GF called me in high school.
Team 1 (12 team FFPC)
QB: Wentz
RB: Cook, A Jones, Mixon, Kerryon, Hunt, Hill, Drake
WR: OBJ, Lockett, ARob, Woods, ARob, Preston
TE: Howard, Cook, Goedert, Njoku, Knox

Team 2 (12 team PPR, q/r/r/w/w/w/f/t/k/d)
QB: Wilson, Dak
RB: Fournette, Kamara, Michel, Kerryon, Blount
WR: Beckham, Thielen, Enunwa, M Williams, Beasely, Amendola
TE: Eifert, Hooper, Gesicki

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby Mephistopheles » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:55 am

Ray Finkle wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:17 am
Aaron Hernandez killed it for a couple seasons.
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4. You always respond that you don't value another team's players as highly as they do.
3. You steer conversations away from ADP or any other form of consensus or rankings to gauge trade value.
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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby MattDeezy » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:57 am

Alfred Morris
Eddie Lacy
A
12Tm PPR SF TE Prem.
1Q|2R|3W|1T|1SF|2FLX
Q: Mayfield, Cam, Bortles, TeddyB, Brissett
R: Henry, Ingram, Samuels, Martin, BHill
W: MThomas, MVS, EqSB, Samuel, Parker, Stills, DaMoore, Crab, Ateman, Gabriel
T: OJHoward, Gesicki, Shaheen
2019: 2.2
2020: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 4

B
12Tm PPR TE Prem.
1Q|2R|3W|1T|2FLX
Q: Luck, Cousins, Rudolph
R: DJ, Michel, McCoy, JWilliams, Wilkins
W: OBJ, GTate, Dede, Hamilton, EqSB, Reynolds, DaMoore, Crab, Cain
T: Burton, Rudolph, Fumagalli
2019: 1.11, 2.3, 4.6
2020: 1, 1, 1, 4

C
12Tm PPR SF
1Q|2R|3W|1T|1SF|2FLX|1K|1D
Q: Ryan, Trubisky
R: Kerryon, DFreeman, Hunt, Ekeler, Dixon, Clement
W: OBJ, Adams, Alshon, Samuel, Reynolds, Taywan, Zay
T: Howard, Njoku, Ian Thomas
2019: 3.2, 3.6, 4.2, 4.6

D
10Tm PPR
2Q|2R|3W|2T|3FLX
Q: Luck, Watson, Foles
R: Guice, Henry, Howard, Miller, RoJo, Samuels
W: Landry, Fuller, Shepard, GTate, Humphries, Funchess, DaMoore
T: Ertz, Howard, Gesicki
2019: 1.5, 1.6, 1.8

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby slaughterrt » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:08 am

Jonas Gray was a guy I grabbed off WW that year he went off. Then I had the opportunity to sell him for a late 1st but I “thought he had a huge future”. And I’ve been kicking myself for it since.

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby dynastyninja » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:57 am

Most of the people mentioned were just hyped players who busted. A stud is typically a first round startup pick. The ones that I agree with as superficial studs since 2010 are:

Spiller - Crazy hype following his third year, never came close again
Lacy - Looked legit, fell apart quickly
Josh Gordon - this is tough and not all about his on-field talent, but he was some people's 1.01 after his breakout season and was never close to it even when playing
Jimmy Graham - he was above Gronk for a period, has been an immense disappointment since then without his value dropping significantly until recent years
TRich - I think he definitely counts. He was an RB1 his first year and an early first startup pick
Doug Martin - Uber-productive second half of his rookie year, partially because of a few games, never close since

I wanted to include Rashard Mendenhall, but he was a fringe 1st/2nd rounder and had two solid years. I probably should've included Alf, too, but he was a fringe 1st/2nd rounder.

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Re: Superficial Studs

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:16 am

dynastyninja wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:57 am
Most of the people mentioned were just hyped players who busted. A stud is typically a first round startup pick. The ones that I agree with as superficial studs since 2010 are:

Spiller - Crazy hype following his third year, never came close again
Lacy - Looked legit, fell apart quickly
Josh Gordon - this is tough and not all about his on-field talent, but he was some people's 1.01 after his breakout season and was never close to it even when playing
Jimmy Graham - he was above Gronk for a period, has been an immense disappointment since then without his value dropping significantly until recent years
TRich - I think he definitely counts. He was an RB1 his first year and an early first startup pick
Doug Martin - Uber-productive second half of his rookie year, partially because of a few games, never close since

I wanted to include Rashard Mendenhall, but he was a fringe 1st/2nd rounder and had two solid years. I probably should've included Alf, too, but he was a fringe 1st/2nd rounder.
Not sure about the rest, but Lacy was a 1st round startup pick at one point. At least he was the year I did my start up draft...
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Baker, D. Jones, Minshew, Luck (IR)
RB: Sony, D. Freeman, Penny, Ballage, Gaskin
WR: Tyreek, Julio, D.J. Moore, Cooks, Hollywood, C. Davis, MVS, Parris, Hamilton, Preston (IR)
TE: Andrews, Henry, Fant
2020: 1, 2, 3, 4, 4

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Dak, Ryan, Foles, Minshew, Cam (IR)
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Penny, Hunt, J. Samuels, J. Jackson
WR: D.J. Moore, Mike Will, Hollywood, C. Davis, MVS, Deebo, Diontae, KeeSean, AB, Parris (IR)
TE: Andrews, Henry, Jonnu, Gesicki
2020: 1, 2, 2
2021: 1, 1, 2, 3


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