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Re: ASJ to the Patriots
Debating whether I should draft him at 2.09 in our rookie/FA draft in a couple weeks. Probably depends on if a rookie I like falls to me. Definitely taking him at 3.09 if he’s still there.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots
2.09 seems way too early unless it’s premium TE scoring. Way better off stashing a RB. Or even one of the rookie tight ends as they should maintain some sort of value going forward. Unlike ASJ who this could potentially be his last stand in the fantasy circles.
I don’t have a conviction on ASJ yet. He is one of the best tight end prospects ever though, and has been a huge miss based on his profile. The Patriots notoriously mine value and take on potential reclamation projects. They don’t always workout, but for a player like ASJ’s profile, it is worth continuing to bet on. It wouldn’t be surprising at all if he flashed a couple of games, or more. Especially considering their depth chart. Aside from Jameis’s rookie season, this is without a doubt the best QB and offensive opportunity he has had. His alcohol troubles are widely documented so maybe he can have some sort of resurrection.
Re: ASJ to the Patriots
Something about this situation reminds me of Ebron, elite prospect struggles in the league, but when paired with elite qb finds success. I would definitely prefer ASJ over 2.09.
Re: ASJ to the Patriots
Interesting. Not sure if he makes it back around to 3.09? You should look at all the teams picking in between 2.09 and 3.09. How are their TE situations? Any Pats homers? Etc.
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NE just traded Hollister away - sending him to Seattle.
NE just traded Hollister away - sending him to Seattle.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots
It could be just me, but it seems like Belichick isn't in the business of replacing talent. When Gronk was injured, they just didn't make the TE apart of the gameplan and instead utilized other areas. When Edelman was out, they didn't try to make a new Edelman, they just utilized other areas. They traded Cooks, and didn't try to utilize another deep threat like Cooks at that volume.
He really does play to the strengths of the players he acquires. I'm not sure what ASJ's strength is to this offense. He's a willing and able blocker, so that's a possibility and would add up with their interest in Rudolph. In the receiving game though, ASJ has mostly been used in the short-to-intermediate area of the field that Edelman dominates the last few seasons.
He really does play to the strengths of the players he acquires. I'm not sure what ASJ's strength is to this offense. He's a willing and able blocker, so that's a possibility and would add up with their interest in Rudolph. In the receiving game though, ASJ has mostly been used in the short-to-intermediate area of the field that Edelman dominates the last few seasons.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots
Disagree. I think ASJ can both stretch the field and be a threat up the seam (ran a 4.56 40 at his pro day) and is a primary red zone threat along with the newly drafted Harry. He's not a Gronk replacement and could be a decoy on many plays, but I think ASJ has a chance to break out after a long stint of mediocrity.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:44 pmI'm not sure what ASJ's strength is to this offense. He's a willing and able blocker, so that's a possibility and would add up with their interest in Rudolph. In the receiving game though, ASJ has mostly been used in the short-to-intermediate area of the field that Edelman dominates the last few seasons.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots
There will never be a "Gronk replacement" but if anyone is going to be it isnt ASJ. I lean to them using Harry more like Gronk (except for the blockng part obviously). The way Harry plays reminds me more of the way Gronk played, and i feel like Bill drafted him to replace gronk even though he plays a different position. Gronk wasnt gonna kill you getting open by a yard or two with finesse and quickness, he was going to kill you by making the contested catch then being impossible to bring down. Thats more Harrys style than anything else. ASJ will be used to block and in the red zone but i see him as 3rd- 4th in targets on an offense that already spreads the ball out all over.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots
Harry is the Gronk replacement. Great blocking WR, great slot guy, great contested catch and run after catch for a big guy. They’ll line him up in slot and inside a lot and have him motion into blocking or crack down imo, and then hit Gronk’s routes plus more.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots
lets quit pretending like ASJ needs to be a gronk replacement to have value as a TE in fantasy football.
IF he can produce 60% of what gronk did, he will have value, especially in TE premium or start 2 TE leagues.
imo, ASJ "has a chance", and that is worth something.
IF he can produce 60% of what gronk did, he will have value, especially in TE premium or start 2 TE leagues.
imo, ASJ "has a chance", and that is worth something.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots
I think ASJ has more than enough talent, it's whether he's got his life in order and has a great work ethic that will make the difference. So far he has not shown that, but we have seen year 4 or year 5 breakouts from TE's before. I am higher than most that he will take advantage of this opportunity.
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They didn't draft anyone. Maybe they'll try the 0 TE strategy?
They didn't draft anyone. Maybe they'll try the 0 TE strategy?
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Re: Patriots Cut ASJ
Ouch, for my team. Here's hoping Jordan Thomas can increase his target / usage share in 2019. Or I could find myself hoping one of the stud rookie TEs make it to 1.08.
Any sleeper TEs on the Patriot's roster at this time?
Any sleeper TEs on the Patriot's roster at this time?
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Re: Patriots Cut ASJ
And here come the Gronk Come back rumors. I hope not. Gronk did not have a great regular season but he went out absolutely perfectly as a Pat with some nice playoff games and one HUGE catch in the Super Bowl. I dont want to see him stumbling around out there and look like a shell of himself like he did last season.
Re: Patriots Cut ASJ
In short, No, unless you can get Ben Watson super duper cheap. And by cheap i mean a 4th or a 5th.
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