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What is Matt LaCosse's standalone value at this point?
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Rb: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Cam Akers, Isiah Pacheco, Jeff Wilson, Chase Edmonds, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Jaleel McLaughlin
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Re: Patriots Cut ASJ
I researched this extensively when I saw ASJ get cut, thinking I found a secret gem that nobody else was looking at.
He's not worth it. JAG (Just A Guy) at best.
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Re: Patriots Cut ASJ
I don't think ASJ was cut because Pats have other plans. I think he was cut because he's ASJ.
There seems to be a popular assumption that the Pats O just has to have a frequently pass targeted TE. But Belichick is the GOAT, and the GOAT doesn't waste effort forcing square pegs into round roles. If the Pats don't have a guy on the TE chart actually deserving of significant pass targets, then the Pats probably just won't throw to their tight-ends much.
One of the many reasons Belichick is the GOAT is because he adapts to what he has and what he can get. If he doesn't have a particular asset worth using and he can't acquire one, then he'll just pivot and go in a different direction entirely.
There seems to be a popular assumption that the Pats O just has to have a frequently pass targeted TE. But Belichick is the GOAT, and the GOAT doesn't waste effort forcing square pegs into round roles. If the Pats don't have a guy on the TE chart actually deserving of significant pass targets, then the Pats probably just won't throw to their tight-ends much.
One of the many reasons Belichick is the GOAT is because he adapts to what he has and what he can get. If he doesn't have a particular asset worth using and he can't acquire one, then he'll just pivot and go in a different direction entirely.
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Re: Patriots Cut ASJ
This is what I've been saying also. Just wont use the TEs much outside of blocking this season. I believe they will have a lot more 2RB sets and they can move one out wide pre-snap to catch passes if neededninotoreS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:23 am I don't think ASJ was cut because Pats have other plans. I think he was cut because he's ASJ.
There seems to be a popular assumption that the Pats O just has to have a frequently pass targeted TE. But Belichick is the GOAT, and the GOAT doesn't waste effort forcing square pegs into round roles. If the Pats don't have a guy on the TE chart actually deserving of significant pass targets, then the Pats probably just won't throw to their tight-ends much.
One of the many reasons Belichick is the GOAT is because he adapts to what he has and what he can get. If he doesn't have a particular asset worth using and he can't acquire one, then he'll just pivot and go in a different direction entirely.
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People also tend to forget that Gronk is one of a kind. A freak. A matchup nightmare. The best ever at his position. Simply because the Pats sign a TE with even an ounce of talent doesn’t mean he will be the second coming.ninotoreS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:23 am I don't think ASJ was cut because Pats have other plans. I think he was cut because he's ASJ.
There seems to be a popular assumption that the Pats O just has to have a frequently pass targeted TE. But Belichick is the GOAT, and the GOAT doesn't waste effort forcing square pegs into round roles. If the Pats don't have a guy on the TE chart actually deserving of significant pass targets, then the Pats probably just won't throw to their tight-ends much.
One of the many reasons Belichick is the GOAT is because he adapts to what he has and what he can get. If he doesn't have a particular asset worth using and he can't acquire one, then he'll just pivot and go in a different direction entirely.
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Re: Patriots Cut ASJ
They certainly moved on from their high usage deep threat when Randy Moss moved on. They moved on from two TE after Aaron Hernandez got all murdery. They’ve gone to and away from the run many times. Totally agree with this.ninotoreS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:23 am I don't think ASJ was cut because Pats have other plans. I think he was cut because he's ASJ.
There seems to be a popular assumption that the Pats O just has to have a frequently pass targeted TE. But Belichick is the GOAT, and the GOAT doesn't waste effort forcing square pegs into round roles. If the Pats don't have a guy on the TE chart actually deserving of significant pass targets, then the Pats probably just won't throw to their tight-ends much.
One of the many reasons Belichick is the GOAT is because he adapts to what he has and what he can get. If he doesn't have a particular asset worth using and he can't acquire one, then he'll just pivot and go in a different direction entirely.
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Re: Patriots Cut ASJ
They have Ben Watson, don't laugh.
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I am not sure how picking up LaCosse at next to nothing equates to people thinking he is the next Gronk. If he shows something in camp & earns Brady's trust, then he'll get targets ... if not, he a cheap flier/roster stash.
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Exactly. Opportunity is king and he has plenty of it as the starting TE for the Pats. He doesn't have to be as good as Gronk. He just needs to be a reliable pass catcher and blocker to get on the field.Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:14 pm I am not sure how picking up LaCosse at next to nothing equates to people thinking he is the next Gronk. If he shows something in camp & earns Brady's trust, then he'll get targets ... if not, he a cheap flier/roster stash.
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Qb: Geno Smith, Matthew Stafford, Trey Lance
Rb: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Cam Akers, Isiah Pacheco, Jeff Wilson, Chase Edmonds, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Jaleel McLaughlin
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diontae Johnson, Darnell Mooney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Jakobi Meyers, Laviska Shenault, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Denzel Mims, Richie James, Michael Wilson, Demario Douglas, Trent Sherfield
Te: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Taysom Hill, Isaiah Likely
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Rb: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Cam Akers, Isiah Pacheco, Jeff Wilson, Chase Edmonds, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Jaleel McLaughlin
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diontae Johnson, Darnell Mooney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Jakobi Meyers, Laviska Shenault, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Denzel Mims, Richie James, Michael Wilson, Demario Douglas, Trent Sherfield
Te: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Taysom Hill, Isaiah Likely
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Just based on tape on the Broncos? What type of research led you to this?
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Qb: Geno Smith, Matthew Stafford, Trey Lance
Rb: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Cam Akers, Isiah Pacheco, Jeff Wilson, Chase Edmonds, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Jaleel McLaughlin
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diontae Johnson, Darnell Mooney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Jakobi Meyers, Laviska Shenault, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Denzel Mims, Richie James, Michael Wilson, Demario Douglas, Trent Sherfield
Te: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Taysom Hill, Isaiah Likely
K:
D: Dallas D
Qb: Geno Smith, Matthew Stafford, Trey Lance
Rb: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Cam Akers, Isiah Pacheco, Jeff Wilson, Chase Edmonds, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Jaleel McLaughlin
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diontae Johnson, Darnell Mooney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Jakobi Meyers, Laviska Shenault, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Denzel Mims, Richie James, Michael Wilson, Demario Douglas, Trent Sherfield
Te: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Taysom Hill, Isaiah Likely
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D: Dallas D
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N'Keal Harry is basically their new starting TE (from a volume perspective, as in - he will get Gronk's volume).
Their "actual TE" will probably be worthless.
Their "actual TE" will probably be worthless.
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Harry will draw CB coverage .. the Patriots TE will still get opportunities when he get favorable matchups with LBs & Safeties.
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Doesn't matter if your choice of TE is a guy like LaCosse or Anderson.
This offense is going to go primarily through the running backs and Edelman, then Harry and the pack will pick up the scraps.
This offense is going to go primarily through the running backs and Edelman, then Harry and the pack will pick up the scraps.
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Re: Patriots Cut ASJ
A two year deal at $4.8M isn’t next to nothing, especially for the Patriots.Forza_Azzurri wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:14 pm I am not sure how picking up LaCosse at next to nothing equates to people thinking he is the next Gronk. If he shows something in camp & earns Brady's trust, then he'll get targets ... if not, he a cheap flier/roster stash.
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QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
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