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ASJ to the Patriots

Postby Jetsfan06 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:09 am

The ex jaguars TE signed a 1 year deal with the Patriots per Adam Schefter.

I was gonna cut him no problem before my rookie draft, but this is now a suddenly interesting development given the fact that gronk retired. That’s quite the vacancy. I believe Dwayne Allen went to Miami as well.

Now they could easily draft a TE, this is a loaded class. But it seems like ASJ suddenly has value again, especially if they don’t draft any TEs in the first few rounds. Thoughts?
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby abloom » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:11 am

Jetsfan06 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:09 am The ex jaguars TE signed a 1 year deal with the Patriots per Adam Schefter.

I was gonna cut him no problem before my rookie draft, but this is now a suddenly interesting development given the fact that gronk retired. That’s quite the vacancy. I believe Dwayne Allen went to Miami as well.

Now they could easily draft a TE, this is a loaded class. But it seems like ASJ suddenly has value again, especially if they don’t draft any TEs in the first few rounds. Thoughts?
I think he has potentially some value for 1 year. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Pats grab multiple tes in this class.
Certainly worth keeping him or trading him.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby Jason3123 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:13 am

This is easily the greatest thing to happen to his value since being drafted.

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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby Valhalla » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:25 am

Eh...
No one aside from Gronk (and Hernandez) have been great there.
I remember grabbing Sudfeld in the preseason and being excited about him. Ended up selling him for a 2nd rounder I think. Martellus Bennett was better than ASJ but did little in NE. Dwayne Allen was supposed to be suddenly a great asset when he went to NE.

Gronk was special. It hasn't held up to just plug another tight end in there and Brady makes them great. He doesn't/hasn't.

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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby Valhalla » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:27 am

I suppose what this DOES do...is gives you an indication that the Patriots won't be going tight end early in the draft.

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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby RB6 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:32 am

Valhalla wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:27 am I suppose what this DOES do...is gives you an indication that the Patriots won't be going tight end early in the draft.
I wouldn’t say that at all. This is as a clear sell opportunity as it gets. I won’t be surprised if the Pats go TE early and then cut ties with ASJ before the season starts.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby jordanzs » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:38 am

I wish I owned him so I could sell

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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:40 am

Surprised at all the "meh" responses. NE doesn't really have any big red-zone receivers, and they'll likely need to throw more in 2019 with the defense not as strong (at least on paper). I'll be buying for a mid 2nd or cheaper.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby Patsfan86 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:41 am

I doubt they go TE now, i think they ride this out for a year and draft a WR in the first. Wr is more of a clear need now.

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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby Jetsfan06 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:59 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:40 am Surprised at all the "meh" responses. NE doesn't really have any big red-zone receivers, and they'll likely need to throw more in 2019 with the defense not as strong (at least on paper). I'll be buying for a mid 2nd or cheaper.
And I would gladly SELL for a mid 2nd... well before the draft that is. If we come out of the draft with no big TE names drafted by the patriots, then I would have to consider just holding onto him.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby Paul717 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:07 pm

Just snagged him in my league off the waiver wire. Dropped Boston Scott. Worth a roster spot I suppose given my dumpster fire situation at TE.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:18 pm

Jetsfan06 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:59 am
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:40 am Surprised at all the "meh" responses. NE doesn't really have any big red-zone receivers, and they'll likely need to throw more in 2019 with the defense not as strong (at least on paper). I'll be buying for a mid 2nd or cheaper.
And I would gladly SELL for a mid 2nd... well before the draft that is. If we come out of the draft with no big TE names drafted by the patriots, then I would have to consider just holding onto him.
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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby thebeast » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:21 pm

Valhalla wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:25 am Eh...
No one aside from Gronk (and Hernandez) have been great there.
I remember grabbing Sudfeld in the preseason and being excited about him. Ended up selling him for a 2nd rounder I think. Martellus Bennett was better than ASJ but did little in NE. Dwayne Allen was supposed to be suddenly a great asset when he went to NE.

Gronk was special. It hasn't held up to just plug another tight end in there and Brady makes them great. He doesn't/hasn't.
I think Bennet did okay there when Gronk was out. I think ASJ is closer to Gronk than he is to Dwayne Allen in terms of skill set. I like the opportunity for him.

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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby problemsolver » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:39 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:40 am the defense not as strong (at least on paper)
I'm curious why you think this. The Patriots replaced Flowers with Micheal Bennett, which IMO might be a slight upgrade but is certainly not a huge downgrade. Added one of the best run stuffing DTs in the league (Mike Pennel) resigned all their other FA, will have Juwaun Bentley, Duke Dawson and Christian Sam back from IR plus anyone they draft this year. I mean nothing is set in stone but "on paper" this defense is anything but worse than last years.

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Re: ASJ to the Patriots

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:46 pm

Valhalla wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:25 am Eh...
No one aside from Gronk (and Hernandez) have been great there.
I remember grabbing Sudfeld in the preseason and being excited about him. Ended up selling him for a 2nd rounder I think. Martellus Bennett was better than ASJ but did little in NE. Dwayne Allen was supposed to be suddenly a great asset when he went to NE.

Gronk was special. It hasn't held up to just plug another tight end in there and Brady makes them great. He doesn't/hasn't.
Long time ago, and maybe irrelevant. But Ben Coates was pretty solid for a time.

As for ASJ, this certainly pumps his value a bit. But I question if he's got the ability to sustain that value once the pads come on and would view this as a "sell" opportunity if I had another option on my roster at TE.

Wouldn't blame an owner for holding-and-hoping though.
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