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Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:02 pm
by hoos89
Maximus891 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:51 am
For me
Levron Bell - Just don't see him doing what he did in Pitt
Kittle - His value won't get any higher (For me I'm keeping him)
Cooks - gets the 3rd look from Goff, hes a boom or bust week to week
Goodwin - Value is high as most believe he will break out. Winstons on a short leash could have Gabbert throwing to him
D Freeman - I think Ito takes over there
A Rod - over rated
Lindsay - Freeman has higher draft capital they'll try to mix him in more
Cohen - Montgomery will be a 3 down back with Cohen in as change of pace
Cooks was pretty consistent from week-to-week last season even prior to Kupp going down, particularly if you exclude the week when he got concussed. He was somewhat boom/bust with the Pats two seasons ago, but had more consistent usage with the Rams last season.

I don't really think that Montgomery is going to step in as a rookie as a 3 down back. That seems a bit overly optimistic to me.

I also don't really think Gabbert is that much of a threat to Winston.
FantasyFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:42 am
Obviously all sells are dependent on value. With that being said, Sony Michel strikes me as a guy to get out on. Knee issues, and Harris is no slouch. They refuse to use him in the passing game, and it's looking like a 3 headed monster going forward with Michel, Harris and White. If Michel misses any time and Harris performs well, it could get worse than that, too.
Michel is tough to sell right now.

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:31 pm
by kmbryant09
My list of Sell-Now players:

RB: Sony Michel - I never thought he was a special talent, Harris' arrival and his knee conditions = easy sell for me.

RB: Zeke Elliot - I know the point of dynasty football is to win championships, but I don't trust him to maintain a long career. His character concerns, weight concerns, workload concerns, and the nature of the RB position make him a clear sell to me if he's being valued near that elite tier with Barkley / Kamara / McCaffrey.

RB: Derrius Guice - I know a lot of people are high on him, but I think the risk is too much right now for his current price tag. He's recovering from a very significant knee injury and has yet to play a regular season game in the NFL. Even if he miraculously becomes a workhorse this year, I think that offense is going to be pretty bad. The better bet is that he shares the ground game with AP, and cedes significant passing game work to Chris Thompson.

WR: Keenan Allen - he's not a screaming sell candidate, but as an owner, I'm worried. That defense could be scary good and we've seen this team take the air out of the ball in the 2nd half of games when they're ahead. With Henry healthy, I worry about Allen's overall target projection. I LOVE the player, starting to not like the situation.

WR: Corey Davis - some think his value is too low to sell, but I've still seen him valued as a mid-first. Always thought he was a tad overrated coming out of college, and his production has been mediocre at best given his target share %. Now the team drafts A.J. Brown, and I don't trust Davis - cash out while you can.

Re: SELL NOW!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:41 pm
by DelawareRiverEagles
Cult of Dionysus wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 8:18 am
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Honestly, I'd just keep him.

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:56 pm
by rmacattack6
hoos89 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:02 pm
Maximus891 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:51 am
For me
Levron Bell - Just don't see him doing what he did in Pitt
Kittle - His value won't get any higher (For me I'm keeping him)
Cooks - gets the 3rd look from Goff, hes a boom or bust week to week
Goodwin - Value is high as most believe he will break out. Winstons on a short leash could have Gabbert throwing to him
D Freeman - I think Ito takes over there
A Rod - over rated
Lindsay - Freeman has higher draft capital they'll try to mix him in more
Cohen - Montgomery will be a 3 down back with Cohen in as change of pace
Cooks was pretty consistent from week-to-week last season even prior to Kupp going down, particularly if you exclude the week when he got concussed. He was somewhat boom/bust with the Pats two season's ago, but had more consistent usage with the Rams last season.

I don't really think that Montgomery is going to step in as a rookie as a 3 down back. That seems a bit overly optimistic to me.

I also don't really think Gabbert is that much of a threat to Winston.
FantasyFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:42 am
Obviously all sells are dependent on value. With that being said, Sony Michel strikes me as a guy to get out on. Knee issues, and Harris is no slouch. They refuse to use him in the passing game, and it's looking like a 3 headed monster going forward with Michel, Harris and White. If Michel misses any time and Harris performs well, it could get worse than that, too.
Michel is tough to sell right now.
^this.

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:14 pm
by blemly
Maximus891 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:51 am
For me
Levron Bell - Just don't see him doing what he did in Pitt
Kittle - His value won't get any higher (For me I'm keeping him)
Cooks - gets the 3rd look from Goff, hes a boom or bust week to week
Goodwin - Value is high as most believe he will break out. Winstons on a short leash could have Gabbert throwing to him
D Freeman - I think Ito takes over there
A Rod - over rated
Lindsay - Freeman has higher draft capital they'll try to mix him in more
Cohen - Montgomery will be a 3 down back with Cohen in as change of pace
Appreciate the list. I agree with most, except for Cooks, A-Rod, Cohen, and Freeman (for the reasons listed).

Cooks has had 4 straight 1K yard seasons and is 2 years younger than Woods.

A-Rod has been the QB1 overall 5xs. He’s not overrated.

Freeman is eventually on his way out, but Ito is not that guy who ousts him imo. He’s a plodder and I don’t think he was impressive last year in the action he saw.

Cohen is electric and I don’t see him being held back by Montgomery. They are pretty different types of backs and I don’t see either eating into each other’s production. Cohen is not and will not ever be a 10-15 carry/game guy, but he’s too important not to use.

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:06 pm
by hoos89
blemly wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:14 pm
Maximus891 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:51 am
For me
Levron Bell - Just don't see him doing what he did in Pitt
Kittle - His value won't get any higher (For me I'm keeping him)
Cooks - gets the 3rd look from Goff, hes a boom or bust week to week
Goodwin - Value is high as most believe he will break out. Winstons on a short leash could have Gabbert throwing to him
D Freeman - I think Ito takes over there
A Rod - over rated
Lindsay - Freeman has higher draft capital they'll try to mix him in more
Cohen - Montgomery will be a 3 down back with Cohen in as change of pace
Appreciate the list. I agree with most, except for Cooks, A-Rod, Cohen, and Freeman (for the reasons listed).
So...you agree with most, but disagree with half?

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:37 pm
by jbz420
A couple names I haven't seen yet, but I'd consider selling Michael Thomas or Mike Evans.

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:40 pm
by jbz420
But more relevant, I sold Hilton, ertz, Arob, and Howard this off-season

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:17 am
by smallxl
blemly wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:14 pm
Maximus891 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:51 am
For me
Levron Bell - Just don't see him doing what he did in Pitt
Kittle - His value won't get any higher (For me I'm keeping him)
Cooks - gets the 3rd look from Goff, hes a boom or bust week to week
Goodwin - Value is high as most believe he will break out. Winstons on a short leash could have Gabbert throwing to him
D Freeman - I think Ito takes over there
A Rod - over rated
Lindsay - Freeman has higher draft capital they'll try to mix him in more
Cohen - Montgomery will be a 3 down back with Cohen in as change of pace
Appreciate the list. I agree with most, except for Cooks, A-Rod, Cohen, and Freeman (for the reasons listed).

Cooks has had 4 straight 1K yard seasons and is 2 years younger than Woods.

A-Rod has been the QB1 overall 5xs. He’s not overrated.

Freeman is eventually on his way out, but Ito is not that guy who ousts him imo. He’s a plodder and I don’t think he was impressive last year in the action he saw.

Cohen is electric and I don’t see him being held back by Montgomery. They are pretty different types of backs and I don’t see either eating into each other’s production. Cohen is not and will not ever be a 10-15 carry/game guy, but he’s too important not to use.
My take -

Michel is a buy while everyone is scared
Cohen is also a buy while everyone believes montgomery will take his role. He's a special talent.
Also agree with above that Ito Smith is not at all the guy to take Devonta's job. If you are a win-now team there is no better buy than Freeman. I think he bounces back for one more good year.

Agree with Godwin - crazy hype and Bell - who is screaming injury or down year given his layoff and new landing spot. Others I'd look to sell might be Lockett for the right price although I like the talent, Tyreek Hill, Zach Ertz (love Goedert), Tevin Coleman - while everyone thinks he is the RB1 in San Fran ( I prefer Breida simply by the eyeball test), Corey Davis (before his value drops even more) and again for the right price I'd be interested in moving McCaffrey and Mahomes whose values cannot be any higher. An finally Geronimo Allison - just think there are so many other young GB wr's I like (Valdes-Scantling to name one) and I am not sold on Allison's talent

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:08 am
by hoos89
Godwin went freaking 32 in my startup....ahead of every rookie, Fournette and Hilton.

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:21 am
by kmbryant09
hoos89 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:08 am
Godwin went freaking 32 in my startup....ahead of every rookie, Fournette and Hilton.
I would take Jacobs, Hilton, and maybe Sanders over him. But wouldn't trade him for Montgomery, any rookie WR, or Fournette.

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:36 am
by RB6
kmbryant09 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:21 am
hoos89 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:08 am
Godwin went freaking 32 in my startup....ahead of every rookie, Fournette and Hilton.
I would take Jacobs, Hilton, and maybe Sanders over him. But wouldn't trade him for Montgomery, any rookie WR, or Fournette.
Yea I really don't think it's all that crazy. I think the only rookie I'd take before Godwin is Jacobs. Can also understand being bearish on Forunette and Hilton. This looks like he's trying to get Godwin before a price increase.

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:54 am
by hoos89
RB6 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:36 am
kmbryant09 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:21 am
hoos89 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:08 am
Godwin went freaking 32 in my startup....ahead of every rookie, Fournette and Hilton.
I would take Jacobs, Hilton, and maybe Sanders over him. But wouldn't trade him for Montgomery, any rookie WR, or Fournette.
Yea I really don't think it's all that crazy. I think the only rookie I'd take before Godwin is Jacobs. Can also understand being bearish on Forunette and Hilton. This looks like he's trying to get Godwin before a price increase.
32 already represents a price increase, though. I've never seen Godwin that high.

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:02 am
by djeternal2
RB6 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:36 am
kmbryant09 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:21 am
hoos89 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:08 am
Godwin went freaking 32 in my startup....ahead of every rookie, Fournette and Hilton.
I would take Jacobs, Hilton, and maybe Sanders over him. But wouldn't trade him for Montgomery, any rookie WR, or Fournette.
Yea I really don't think it's all that crazy. I think the only rookie I'd take before Godwin is Jacobs. Can also understand being bearish on Forunette and Hilton. This looks like he's trying to get Godwin before a price increase.
At 32 in a startup you are basically buying at the upside price unless you feel he's going to vault into the top 8 or so WRs. Do you think he's going to jump ahead of Cooper, Theilen, Diggs, Keenan, AB, Cooks?

Re: Sell Now Players!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:24 am
by killer_of_giants
djeternal2 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:02 am
Do you think he's going to jump ahead of Cooper
he was actually better than cooper in 8 weeks out of the 14 where they both played (and another one was a tie).