OP, perhaps the best solution is the show him some of these replies to guide him on commissioner settings. I am a member of multiple MFL-based leagues, and I love the customization etc, but the one league I commish is on Yahoo because I don't want to deal with the headache of all the settings etc. It can be a lot to manage.GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:04 am Commissioner should always be locked out with few exceptions, and the "add/drop" ability should be turned off prior to any draft, and remain off until the commissioner has properly set up and thoroughly communicated the process and schedule for adding post draft to the league.
Shady commish. Yay or nay?
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Re: Shady commish. Yay or nay?
I've never been a Commish, so I don't fully understand this admin/mod lockout stuff. I can guess what it means based off of previous experiences, but can someone please explain that to me?usps33 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 9:52 pm I never understand why owners play in leagues that the commissioner insists on to having the lockout turned on. There is no reason for the commish to need access to all abilities 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. When the commish needs to access these abilities, it only takes a second to turn them on and off. Only on a few occasions will the commish ever need to use these abilities during the season normally and sometimes there is no need to use them at all.
Is it like when you try to add a player but the system doesn't allow you to proceed to that screen just yet?
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Also, to answer the OP, I think the Commish shouldn't have reversed the transactions. If he is basing things off of intent, then he is the only one who might know some information, which creates asymmetry. That's kind of a recipe for disaster and not a good way to adjudicate issues. What if there is a lopsided trade and he goes "my intent was for all trades to be fair and/or pass a trade calculator test?" Or what if someone tanks and/or throws games, gets away with it, and then weeks after-the-fact the Commish says his intent was to prevent stuff like that from happening?
All teams had the same information, and all who availed themselves to the privilege of waivers should be rewarded. Regardless, the transactions happened, and what's done is done.
This could be a Slippery Slope type of situation tbh.
All teams had the same information, and all who availed themselves to the privilege of waivers should be rewarded. Regardless, the transactions happened, and what's done is done.
This could be a Slippery Slope type of situation tbh.
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Sorry for triple post, but I had a similar situation to the OP's in another league.
We had rules that said you could not drop players until July, but the Commish unilaterally decided to move that date to a date in May. Once he made this announcement, his family (also members in the league) instantly made drops, and then he made some too. In fact, he and his family were the first people to make drops. Nobody else made a drop before they did.
He reasoned that he could do this because it was open and available to all teams, but the rules had never been modified like that before. On top of that, by dropping the players ASAP, he was able to get his roster below the roster maximum. If he was over the max, he would have had to drop players on the day that waiver wires opened up before making any transactions. So, essentially, he wouldn't have been able to participate in blind-bid waivers b/c the system wouldn't allow him to put in such claims due to him being over the max, and he would have had to spend some time manually dropping the players himself during FCFS. But by dropping the players early, he and his family were able to get their teams under the max so they could participate in BB Waivers.
Once that happened, I bounced so fast. Can't play with Commissioners like that. And he reasons that he's a good one because he's played dynasty for 10+ years, so his "experience speaks for itself."
LOOOOLLLLLLLL What a dummy! No wonder he was a Cowboys fan, LMFAO!!!
We had rules that said you could not drop players until July, but the Commish unilaterally decided to move that date to a date in May. Once he made this announcement, his family (also members in the league) instantly made drops, and then he made some too. In fact, he and his family were the first people to make drops. Nobody else made a drop before they did.
He reasoned that he could do this because it was open and available to all teams, but the rules had never been modified like that before. On top of that, by dropping the players ASAP, he was able to get his roster below the roster maximum. If he was over the max, he would have had to drop players on the day that waiver wires opened up before making any transactions. So, essentially, he wouldn't have been able to participate in blind-bid waivers b/c the system wouldn't allow him to put in such claims due to him being over the max, and he would have had to spend some time manually dropping the players himself during FCFS. But by dropping the players early, he and his family were able to get their teams under the max so they could participate in BB Waivers.
Once that happened, I bounced so fast. Can't play with Commissioners like that. And he reasons that he's a good one because he's played dynasty for 10+ years, so his "experience speaks for itself."
LOOOOLLLLLLLL What a dummy! No wonder he was a Cowboys fan, LMFAO!!!
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Re: Shady commish. Yay or nay?
Agreed, but we were already past that point. What happened happened. The question is about how the commish handled everything from that point forward.GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 9:04 am ...and the "add/drop" ability should be turned off prior to any draft, and remain off until the commissioner has properly set up and thoroughly communicated the process and schedule for adding post draft to the league.
But I think I got the responses that I needed. Thanks for chiming in, and that goes for yourself and everyone else!
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I agree that the commish should have the lockout turned on (or off? -- whatever doesn't let him see stuff). But I feel for him on the waivers issue. MFL has a good checklist when they turn over to the new site. But they should add a few more (and I'm leaning towards creating a checklist). They should add to verify waivers date, blind bid budgets, and even that hyperlink on the banner that I forget to change until one owner (the same one each year) reminds me.
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I'm late to the party, but does seem at least a little shady by the commish.
how'd it turn out, he reverse it or no?
I think a fair compromise would be to let the BBID stand and reverse the FCFS as that was almost certainly an oversight.
I may be the minority, but I personally think MFL made it so much easier to setup this year. Literally all my settings from last year just carried right over, I didn't have to change a thing. Except I think I always start my draft on a Sunday and not just June 1, so I had to move it from june 1 to june 2. Everything else was perfectly intact from last year.
Also, it is pretty easy to go back to previous years and see when your waivers and draft took place. If it's pretty consistent with how it was set last year/previous years, then he should've def let the waivers go. If it's way way off, personally I woulda still let it go and think he had some personal motives, as over 60% of the league still managed to make moves
how'd it turn out, he reverse it or no?
I think a fair compromise would be to let the BBID stand and reverse the FCFS as that was almost certainly an oversight.
I may be the minority, but I personally think MFL made it so much easier to setup this year. Literally all my settings from last year just carried right over, I didn't have to change a thing. Except I think I always start my draft on a Sunday and not just June 1, so I had to move it from june 1 to june 2. Everything else was perfectly intact from last year.
Also, it is pretty easy to go back to previous years and see when your waivers and draft took place. If it's pretty consistent with how it was set last year/previous years, then he should've def let the waivers go. If it's way way off, personally I woulda still let it go and think he had some personal motives, as over 60% of the league still managed to make moves
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I wonder what would have happened here had the draft went 1 day longer. Do we think anyone would have told the commish waivers were running before the end of the draft?
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SHADY. I'd leave. That's total BS.
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Good distinction. It's always tough to decipher between the two. But the second you start to question the Commish's integrity, it's time to bail. Hard to trust people if you question their integrity, and you NEED to be able to trust the Commish.
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So are we allowed to post Commish issues in here instead of the Commish Corner? If so, then why?
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Sorry for triple post, but I can see why now. That subforum is as slow as a Cowboys fan learning math.DelawareRiverEagles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:18 pm So are we allowed to post Commish issues in here instead of the Commish Corner? If so, then why?
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actually, the Commish corner is for commissioners to discuss issues. I think this is the appropriate place for this post.DelawareRiverEagles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:05 pmSorry for triple post, but I can see why now. That subforum is as slow as a Cowboys fan learning math.DelawareRiverEagles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:18 pm So are we allowed to post Commish issues in here instead of the Commish Corner? If so, then why?
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These facts show that the owners are on the ball. The waivers and FCFS should stand.Water Buffalo wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 8:49 pm
10 of the 16 league owners submitted waiver claims, myself included.
*snip*
- The commish was one of the few (probably 2 or 3) teams that did not submit waiver claims.
There is really no excuse for the commissioner to reverse the waivers or FCFS. It is his responsibility to make sure the calendar and all procedures are updated before he even starts the season. If he overlooked this item, but the majority of the league saw it, then he has to let it stand. He just needs to be more cautious going forward. Also, making it clear in the rules would give him a leg to stand on.
As for the shady question - it's hard to judge. But if you have a bad feeling about the commish, and this isn't the first bull-pucky he's pulled, then I'd strongly consider leaving, or else offering to replace him.
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Hmmm, interesting, but a good distinction.meineymoe wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:30 pmactually, the Commish corner is for commissioners to discuss issues. I think this is the appropriate place for this post.DelawareRiverEagles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:05 pmSorry for triple post, but I can see why now. That subforum is as slow as a Cowboys fan learning math.DelawareRiverEagles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:18 pm So are we allowed to post Commish issues in here instead of the Commish Corner? If so, then why?
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