Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby spotxc » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:50 pm

Vcize wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:26 pm
Kyle Shanahan is kind of known for pounding the table for his RBs publicly. From the stories about him standing on the table and demanding Joe Williams to him telling us all offseason how excited he was to feed Jerrick McKinnon the rock.

So the most telling thing for me with Coleman is how collectively "meh" he seems to be about him. Shanahan hasn't said anything about Coleman being the lead back or anything like that. His only real quote on the matter was something to the effect of (paraphrasing) Coleman ended up being so cheap that they felt like they may as well take a shot, and that it wouldn't effect McKinnon's role (this was pre McKinnon knee set-back of course).

Coleman has really lucked out with McKinnon not getting healthy. I think Breida is a much better player than Coleman though of course his health concerns are well documents. I could see Coleman having some nice value/production but it seems almost entirely predicated on the guys around him missing time.
Would love to see evidence of this shanahan thinking.

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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby Lord_Varys » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:46 am

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Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:44 am
Breida is just a JAG. Woo boy.
He is more talented than Coleman and graded out as the best receiving back in the year by PFF. He was also more efficient last year than Coleman has ever been.

Breida's only obstacle is health.

That said, I expect a full blown committee.
You know Shanahan never uses full blown commitees right?

I mean, he'll use half blown commitees yeah. But he always has a preferred leader who turns out low end RB1 seasons (or in Breida's case last year, he paced for it when he was healthy).

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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby Life of Pablo » Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:21 am

Lord_Varys wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:46 am
Phaded wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:44 am
Breida is just a JAG. Woo boy.
He is more talented than Coleman and graded out as the best receiving back in the year by PFF. He was also more efficient last year than Coleman has ever been.

Breida's only obstacle is health.

That said, I expect a full blown committee.
You know Shanahan never uses full blown commitees right?

I mean, he'll use half blown commitees yeah. But he always has a preferred leader who turns out low end RB1 seasons (or in Breida's case last year, he paced for it when he was healthy).
Man I got all these studs on my team but I think Breida is the #1 guy I'm most excited to see this year. I've had chances to sell him but I'm all in on him being the best RB on the 49ers this year. He's too good to just go away easily. Just praying he can stay healthy this year, but even for that I'm optimistic.
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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby notweswelker » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:27 pm

As a Breida owner I'm excited to see some of the support he has from respected dynasty members here.
If he can stay healthy he's got a ton of potential. Should be a good show either way.
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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby Ryantacular » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:37 am

Phaded wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:44 am
Breida is just a JAG. Woo boy.
He is more talented than Coleman and graded out as the best receiving back in the year by PFF. He was also more efficient last year than Coleman has ever been.

Breida's only obstacle is health.

That said, I expect a full blown committee.
How? Like how does his small bleep sample size of 31 targets and 27 receptions garner enough film to even be considered for recieving grading? And how does that film and small sample size render him a grade better than CMC?
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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby Phaded » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:46 pm

Well tonight one of them looked clearly superior..
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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby UATahoe » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:58 pm

Breida looks hands down better than Tevin. Agree that health is his main barrier. Dude is a baller.
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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby BigJoeWall72 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:26 am

Sounds like another setback for Jerick McKinnon...

https://twitter.com/knbrmurph/status/11 ... 24194?s=12

I wonder if they might not release him at this point? Unfortunately, he can't seem to get/stay healthy.

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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby Blueboy » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:30 am

Really sucks for McKinnon. He'd have probably fit really well in Shanahan's scheme, but so often the body just can't hold up to the demands of the NFL. He was a really fun watch during that Keenum-led Vikings season.

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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby jdacunha » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:41 am

JMK is turning into Fragile-Fred.
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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby Ice » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:15 am

jdacunha wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:41 am
JMK is turning into Fragile-Fred.
Except Fragile-Fred was 10X better and seemed to get hurt in season all the time.

Nice blast from the past! :D

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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby notweswelker » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:18 pm

I only have him on one team, but man I really like Breida. I hope he bucks logic and his small frame and balls out. Big fanboy of his.
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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:23 pm

UATahoe wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:58 pm
Breida looks hands down better than Tevin. Agree that health is his main barrier. Dude is a baller.
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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby Phaded » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:24 pm

Do you want a logical debate?
You are in the wrong place.

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Re: Coleman was named the "clear favorite" to begin the season with the most backfield touches

Postby notweswelker » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:10 pm

Phaded wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:24 pm
Just going to leave this here for those that are now coming around to Breida..

Some good things to know.
Do you think he will ever get the opportunity to handle enough touches to be more than a RB2?
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