Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

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How far apart did Hock and Fant go in your rookie draft?

One after another (i.e. 7th and 8th)
8
15%
1 Pick apart (i.e. 7th and 9th)
8
15%
2 Picks apart
6
11%
3 Picks apart
12
22%
4+ Picks apart
21
38%
 
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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby MattDeezy » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:02 pm

Jigga94 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:38 pm
MattDeezy wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:06 am
In a 2TE SF league, Hock was taken at 1.03 and I took Fant at 1.04. The Hock owner then offered me his Hock for my Fant straight up which I accepted.
Lol reminds me of when I took Baker right after Darnold. I offered Baker and a throw in for Darnold and they declined... Come mid season they offered me Darnold for Baker straight up.. No thanks
Hoping my Hock is your Baker 👍
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12Tm PPR SF TE Prem.
1Q|2R|3W|1T|1SF|2FLX
Q: Mayfield, Cam, Bortles, TeddyB, Brissett
R: Henry, Ingram, Samuels, Martin, BHill
W: MThomas, MVS, EqSB, Samuel, Parker, Stills, DaMoore, Crab, Ateman, Gabriel
T: OJHoward, Gesicki, Shaheen
2019: 2.2
2020: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 4

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12Tm PPR TE Prem.
1Q|2R|3W|1T|2FLX
Q: Luck, Cousins, Rudolph
R: DJ, Michel, McCoy, JWilliams, Wilkins
W: OBJ, GTate, Dede, Hamilton, EqSB, Reynolds, DaMoore, Crab, Cain
T: Burton, Rudolph, Fumagalli
2019: 1.11, 2.3, 4.6
2020: 1, 1, 1, 4

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12Tm PPR SF
1Q|2R|3W|1T|1SF|2FLX|1K|1D
Q: Ryan, Trubisky
R: Kerryon, DFreeman, Hunt, Ekeler, Dixon, Clement
W: OBJ, Adams, Alshon, Samuel, Reynolds, Taywan, Zay
T: Howard, Njoku, Ian Thomas
2019: 3.2, 3.6, 4.2, 4.6

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10Tm PPR
2Q|2R|3W|2T|3FLX
Q: Luck, Watson, Foles
R: Guice, Henry, Howard, Miller, RoJo, Samuels
W: Landry, Fuller, Shepard, GTate, Humphries, Funchess, DaMoore
T: Ertz, Howard, Gesicki
2019: 1.5, 1.6, 1.8

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby XclickX » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:21 pm

12 team start 2 TE, TE also receives double the points per reception.

Hock 1.02
Fant 1.05
*I owned both the 1.04 and 1.05 so you can technically say Fant was 1.04.

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:25 pm

XclickX wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:21 pm
12 team start 2 TE, TE also receives double the points per reception.

Hock 1.02
Fant 1.05
*I owned both the 1.04 and 1.05 so you can technically say Fant was 1.04.
In this format I would strongly consider them as the top 2 picks. 2TE plus a major premium makes TE extremely valuable, depending on the other league rules.

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:29 pm

Fant 1.04
Hock 1.07

That's the earliest I've seen Fant go. 12-man, 1 ppr league. We start qb-rb-rb-rb-wr-wr-wr-wr-te-flex-k-d.

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D3:
QB—Roethlisberger, Mariota, Allen, Tannehill, Rudolph
RB—EE, Cohen, Henry, EMcGuire, JSamuels, Pollard, Adams
WR—MThomas, Diggs, Harry, Hardman, Zay. Amendola, Meredith, Chark
TE—Burton, Doyle, Knox, Jonnu, Shaheen
PK—Zuerlain
DEF—Ravens

D4:
QB—Watson, Winston, Fitzpatrick
RB—Conner, Cohen, Howard, DWilliams, JSamuels, Snell, CEdmonds, JJackson
WR—Hill, Allen, Golladay, Jeffery, Amendola, Miller, Cain, Dorsett, Perriman
TE—Olsen, IThomas, Gesicki, McDonald, Waller
PK—Gostkowski
DEF—Rams, Jags

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby ArrylT » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:36 pm

MattDeezy wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:06 am
In a 2TE SF league, Hock was taken at 1.03 and I took Fant at 1.04. The Hock owner then offered me his Hock for my Fant straight up which I accepted.
Did he have a reason? Did he accidentally choose Hockenson when he meant to draft Fant? Not that I have any issue with that - just never seen a guy get drafted then traded immediately for the next guy who got drafted. :eh:
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby XclickX » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:17 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:25 pm
XclickX wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:21 pm
12 team start 2 TE, TE also receives double the points per reception.

Hock 1.02
Fant 1.05
*I owned both the 1.04 and 1.05 so you can technically say Fant was 1.04.
In this format I would strongly consider them as the top 2 picks. 2TE plus a major premium makes TE extremely valuable, depending on the other league rules.
Agreed they should have went 1-2. I was stoked 1 of the 2 was on the board at pick 4. The rest of the league rules are normal. Only the premium for the TE.

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby Kcarr » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:44 pm

I have seen hock at 7, fant at 9
Fant at 8, hock at 9
And fant at 8, hock at 12

First 2 are 14 teams, last is 16 team contract league where kelce outscored all wrs both total and per game and ertz was 2nd. In total little was 4th and ebron 13th among wrs and tes combined
4th and long: ppr, 10 team, qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, wr, flex, flex, te, k, dl, dl, lb, lb, db, db, dflex, dflex

QB: Kirk Cousins Tyrod Taylor, Jared Goff
RB: Melvin Gordon, Ezekiel Elliot, Theo Riddick, D'Onta Foreman, James Conner, Jamal Williams
WR: Alshon Jeffrey, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins, Keenan Allen, Jordan Matthews, Cole Beasley, Robby Anderson, Corey Davis, Breshad Perriman, Eli Rogers
TE: Eric Ebron, , David Njoku, Jack Doyle
K: Will Lutz
DL: Frank Clark, Danielle Hunter
LB: Luke Kuechley, Bobby Wagner, Jordan Hicks, Mark Barron, Darron Lee
DB: Sean Davis, Morgan Burnett,

IR: Clayton Geathers, Quincy Enunwa, Raekwon McMillan

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:10 pm

XclickX wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:17 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:25 pm
XclickX wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:21 pm
12 team start 2 TE, TE also receives double the points per reception.

Hock 1.02
Fant 1.05
*I owned both the 1.04 and 1.05 so you can technically say Fant was 1.04.
In this format I would strongly consider them as the top 2 picks. 2TE plus a major premium makes TE extremely valuable, depending on the other league rules.
Agreed they should have went 1-2. I was stoked 1 of the 2 was on the board at pick 4. The rest of the league rules are normal. Only the premium for the TE.
1QB? In SF I could see taking Kyler 1.01 still, and 2QB I would definitely take Kyler 1 and probably Haskins 2, then the Iowa TEs 3 and 4. 1QB league though I would take the TEs top 2 for sure.

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby MattDeezy » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:45 pm

ArrylT wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:36 pm
MattDeezy wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:06 am
In a 2TE SF league, Hock was taken at 1.03 and I took Fant at 1.04. The Hock owner then offered me his Hock for my Fant straight up which I accepted.
Did he have a reason? Did he accidentally choose Hockenson when he meant to draft Fant? Not that I have any issue with that - just never seen a guy get drafted then traded immediately for the next guy who got drafted. :eh:
His reason was because he has Flacco/Lock and wanted to tag the QB/TE combo. I already have a share of Fant so I figured diversifying makes sense as I have them basically evenly ranked. Also scooped up Irv Smith which I’m pretty happy about.
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12Tm PPR SF TE Prem.
1Q|2R|3W|1T|1SF|2FLX
Q: Mayfield, Cam, Bortles, TeddyB, Brissett
R: Henry, Ingram, Samuels, Martin, BHill
W: MThomas, MVS, EqSB, Samuel, Parker, Stills, DaMoore, Crab, Ateman, Gabriel
T: OJHoward, Gesicki, Shaheen
2019: 2.2
2020: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 4

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12Tm PPR TE Prem.
1Q|2R|3W|1T|2FLX
Q: Luck, Cousins, Rudolph
R: DJ, Michel, McCoy, JWilliams, Wilkins
W: OBJ, GTate, Dede, Hamilton, EqSB, Reynolds, DaMoore, Crab, Cain
T: Burton, Rudolph, Fumagalli
2019: 1.11, 2.3, 4.6
2020: 1, 1, 1, 4

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12Tm PPR SF
1Q|2R|3W|1T|1SF|2FLX|1K|1D
Q: Ryan, Trubisky
R: Kerryon, DFreeman, Hunt, Ekeler, Dixon, Clement
W: OBJ, Adams, Alshon, Samuel, Reynolds, Taywan, Zay
T: Howard, Njoku, Ian Thomas
2019: 3.2, 3.6, 4.2, 4.6

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10Tm PPR
2Q|2R|3W|2T|3FLX
Q: Luck, Watson, Foles
R: Guice, Henry, Howard, Miller, RoJo, Samuels
W: Landry, Fuller, Shepard, GTate, Humphries, Funchess, DaMoore
T: Ertz, Howard, Gesicki
2019: 1.5, 1.6, 1.8

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby XclickX » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:42 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:10 pm
XclickX wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:17 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:25 pm


In this format I would strongly consider them as the top 2 picks. 2TE plus a major premium makes TE extremely valuable, depending on the other league rules.
Agreed they should have went 1-2. I was stoked 1 of the 2 was on the board at pick 4. The rest of the league rules are normal. Only the premium for the TE.
1QB? In SF I could see taking Kyler 1.01 still, and 2QB I would definitely take Kyler 1 and probably Haskins 2, then the Iowa TEs 3 and 4. 1QB league though I would take the TEs top 2 for sure.
1 qb, 2 te , 2 wr , 2 rb and 3 flex.

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby ArrylT » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:30 pm

I am in a league where you're required to start 2 TE (sf/2te) and they went back to back at 1.02 & 1.03.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby MrUbuto » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:08 pm

How would everyone feel about someone taking BOTH?

I have pick 1.05 and 1.13. It's very plausible i get fant at 13.

Have HH and Olsen as my tight ends now. Have HH hock and fant going forward could be dynamite
QB - DWatson(HOU)Winston(TB)Finely(DEN)
RB - TGurley(LAR)DJohnson(ARI)NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)
WR - ODB(NYG)AJ Green(CIN)ACooper (DAL)CDavis(TEN)
TE - HHenry(SD)ISmith(MIN)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Badgley(LAC)
Def - JAGS DET
[rookie] NHarry(NE)MBrown(BAL)
DGoeddart(PHI)
1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2 - 2020's
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players dont take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd year players that were drafted

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby Hottoddies » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:47 pm

MrUbuto wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:08 pm
How would everyone feel about someone taking BOTH?

I have pick 1.05 and 1.13. It's very plausible i get fant at 13.

Have HH and Olsen as my tight ends now. Have HH hock and fant going forward could be dynamite
Taking Hockenson at 1.05 might be a bit early.

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby snaps06 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:50 pm

They went back-to-back in my 14 team superflex rookie draft. Hock went 1.11, and I traded up and took Fant at 1.12.
Team 1: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '16 & '17 3rd Place
REBUILDING 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
Kyler,Stafford,Rosen
Duke,CJA,Gio,Yeldon,Mattison,Snell,DarwinT, DexWilliams,Scott
Cooper,Juju,Godwin,Kirk,Washington,AJBrown,PWilliams,Reynolds
Henry,Andrews,Everett
2020: 1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,3,4,5
2021: 1,2,2,2,3,4,5

Team 2: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '17 2nd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Rodgers,Rivers,Stafford
Zeke,Conner,Bell,Hyde,Duke,Mattison,JHill,Edmonds
Hopkins,Thomas,Cooks,Watkins,MWilliams,PWilliams
Kittle,Henry,Ebron
2020: 2,3

Team 3: 14-Team SF,PPR,0.25/rush '18 3rd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex SFlex
Cousins,Kyler,Hoyer
Zeke,LMurray,Ingram,Gio,Crowell,Yeldon
Evans,DJMoore,Watkins,Boyd,Davis
Fant,McDonald,Shaheen

Team 4: 16-Team, 6 pt all TD,PPR Startup 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE FLEX FLEX
Stafford,Mariota,Tanny, Rosen
KJ,Jacobs,RFreeman,DThompson,Mattison
DJMoore,Watkins,Lockett,Isabella,Washington,Ross, Doctson
Howard,Herndon
2020:1,1,1,3,3,4,4
2021:1,1,2,2,3,4

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Re: Hock & Fant Relative Rookie ADP

Postby MrUbuto » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:52 pm

Hottoddies wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:47 pm
MrUbuto wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:08 pm
How would everyone feel about someone taking BOTH?

I have pick 1.05 and 1.13. It's very plausible i get fant at 13.

Have HH and Olsen as my tight ends now. Have HH hock and fant going forward could be dynamite
Taking Hockenson at 1.05 might be a bit early.
Who would you take instead? For me the top 4 is pretty defined. Mont Jacob's Sanders and harry. Than we're in tier 2 and I see hock as potentially generational talent. I'd rather have him over deebo Campbell dk etc
QB - DWatson(HOU)Winston(TB)Finely(DEN)
RB - TGurley(LAR)DJohnson(ARI)NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)
WR - ODB(NYG)AJ Green(CIN)ACooper (DAL)CDavis(TEN)
TE - HHenry(SD)ISmith(MIN)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Badgley(LAC)
Def - JAGS DET
[rookie] NHarry(NE)MBrown(BAL)
DGoeddart(PHI)
1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2 - 2020's
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players dont take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd year players that were drafted


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