Darrell Henderson

[hockeyBjj]

Dang, I'm feeling good about getting him at 3.4 the way his value has seemingly ballooned the last couple weeks based of this talk

[kamihamster]

I was not all that high on Henderson pre draft. But weak draft class aside, he was a day 2 pick, they traded up to get him, and he's in a really good offense. Yes, he's behind Gurley but we said a lot of the same things about Kamara behind Ingram and Peterson. My feelings on him were mixed pre draft, and post draft, I feel like my reservations are allayed because McVay. His college scheme is pretty much the same as what he'll see with the Rams. I agree that Brown will probably be the 1a if Gurley is out with Henderson the 1b. He's now a "my guy" for this year. Even if he's used as a gadget player, he is a home run player and his limited touches can still bring lots of production.

[Orenthal Shames]

I agree that Brown will probably be the 1a if Gurley is out with Henderson the 1b.

This is my feeling as well although I'm sure most would disagree. As a Gurley owner, I went out and acquired Brown for peanuts post draft.

Brown was solid when called upon last year until he got hurt. He's a more than capable receiver, has feature back size and knows the system.

[saw061600]

Dang, I'm feeling good about getting him at 3.4 the way his value has seemingly ballooned the last couple weeks based of this talk

3.04 for me too in an Superflex IDP league. I'll buy all day at that price.

[Cult of Dionysus]

I know one thing - this is certainly going to be an interesting thread to look back at after the season.

Agreed.

[honcho55]

Seems like a good thread to keep discussion rolling here (sorry to the guy who didn’t like that a Henderson thread became a Gurley thread - let’s just call it LAR backfield thread?)

I agree there’s been a lot of non-news about gurley and his health. This bit from football guys is definitely notable imo:

“Gurley's knee was problematic last year towards the end of the regular season and in the playoffs. We should see Gurley get more of a breather this year with guys like Malcolm Brown or Darrell Henderson getting a big of work running the rock. McVay added the team plans to hold Gurley out of practice in the offseason. We'd speculate the team limits Gurley in the preseason schedule too.”

No OTAs? Okay, whatever. No/little preseason action? Fine. “Hold gurley out of practice in the offseason”? This just plain can’t be good. If his knee is not 100% after the offseason, it simply never will be, imo. I can recall numerous guys getting back to practice and taking it as a good sign.

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/0 ... offseason/

“He’s on a great plan” - I suspect this is true at face value, but reading between the lines, at best this means they are essentially ‘saving’ his knees for game time action. Maybes he’s on the field in a week too, but the way these things are being presented, I’m officially worried enough to seriously dock Gurleys value.

This to me means Henderson’s climb in value is warranted. I wasn’t huge on him predraft (found my predraft rankings, had him at 19), but the stars are kinda beginning to align. Coach speak or not, McVay has said good things, they moved up for him so it must be true. There’s draft capital there (something I’m huge on in general). Signs are pointing to a doorway to a pretty dang good opportunity here.

If anything, at his current price, I predict he gets a shot at meaningful action this year, and if he has the talent McVay touts, there’s a really decent chance at stringing some RB1 weeks together, where you can sell him *then* if you still don’t like him.

Of course, Brown is there, and that’s significant, but I won’t get into that in this post haha

Bottom line, in this RB class, past Jacobs sanders and Monty, this is probably the best bet atm, if you want a year one contributor/trade fodder.

[themburns]

From PFFMike on twitter: "Rams ran outside zone 217 times during 2018 regular season - 52 more than any other team- Darrell Henderson on outside zone last two years:
53 Attempts
569 Yards
10.7 YPC (led nation)
7.0 YAC/Attempt (led nation)
23 First downs
16 broken tackles"

In addition, something that hasn't been mentioned explicitly is Henderson's elite burst. Looking at the 10 yard splits on the 40 yard dash, Henderson led all RBs at the combine with a 1.42 10 yard split. (https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/201 ... -henderson)

Buy while you can.

[djeternal2]

Seems like a good thread to keep discussion rolling here (sorry to the guy who didn’t like that a Henderson thread became a Gurley thread - let’s just call it LAR backfield thread?)

I agree there’s been a lot of non-news about gurley and his health. This bit from football guys is definitely notable imo:

“Gurley's knee was problematic last year towards the end of the regular season and in the playoffs. We should see Gurley get more of a breather this year with guys like Malcolm Brown or Darrell Henderson getting a big of work running the rock. McVay added the team plans to hold Gurley out of practice in the offseason. We'd speculate the team limits Gurley in the preseason schedule too.”

No OTAs? Okay, whatever. No/little preseason action? Fine. “Hold gurley out of practice in the offseason”? This just plain can’t be good. If his knee is not 100% after the offseason, it simply never will be, imo. I can recall numerous guys getting back to practice and taking it as a good sign.

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2019/0 ... offseason/

“He’s on a great plan” - I suspect this is true at face value, but reading between the lines, at best this means they are essentially ‘saving’ his knees for game time action. Maybes he’s on the field in a week too, but the way these things are being presented, I’m officially worried enough to seriously dock Gurleys value.

This to me means Henderson’s climb in value is warranted. I wasn’t huge on him predraft (found my predraft rankings, had him at 19), but the stars are kinda beginning to align. Coach speak or not, McVay has said good things, they moved up for him so it must be true. There’s draft capital there (something I’m huge on in general). Signs are pointing to a doorway to a pretty dang good opportunity here.

If anything, at his current price, I predict he gets a shot at meaningful action this year, and if he has the talent McVay touts, there’s a really decent chance at stringing some RB1 weeks together, where you can sell him *then* if you still don’t like him.

Of course, Brown is there, and that’s significant, but I won’t get into that in this post haha

Bottom line, in this RB class, past Jacobs sanders and Monty, this is probably the best bet atm, if you want a year one contributor/trade fodder.

Honest question do you knock ARod or Brady's value when they don't do much all preseason because teams want to save their arm (and frankly every other part of their QBs body) for games that actually matter? Henderson is a buy as a mid-second or later as he is a handcuff just like Bryce Love or Alexander Mattison who is also behind a guy that can't stay healthy and the team traded up into the third to draft. No one is pushing Mattison up their boards into the first. I think it's foolish buying a handcuff with a mid to late first.

[FantasyFreak]

From PFFMike on twitter: "Rams ran outside zone 217 times during 2018 regular season - 52 more than any other team- Darrell Henderson on outside zone last two years:
53 Attempts
569 Yards
10.7 YPC (led nation)
7.0 YAC/Attempt (led nation)
23 First downs
16 broken tackles"

In addition, something that hasn't been mentioned explicitly is Henderson's elite burst. Looking at the 10 yard splits on the 40 yard dash, Henderson led all RBs at the combine with a 1.42 10 yard split. (https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/201 ... -henderson)

Buy while you can.

He's already going for a first, which is too pricey. No thanks. He's a handcuff COP back to a generational talent RB. Not paying a first for that. 2nd? Sure.

[Phaded]

Henderson is going to surprise many people.

...and this could mean he will be good or bad because of the divide in this comnunity.

I have made the mistake in the past of buying too much into situation over talent at RB.

[honcho55]

@djeternal2

Nah I think veteran starting QBs getting rested is light years different than a RB for preseason rest. And like I say, light/no preseason doesn’t worry me necessarily. It’s that he’s not on the practice field. Bottom line, at best he’s still in the RB1 convo for a bit, but his career longevity is very much in question, imo. At worst? Well, no need to go there.

[honcho55]

Also fwiw: I only own Henderson in one league, grabbed him and mattison back to back mid second on a team that is solid everywhere else, and junk at RB.

[killer_of_giants]

At worst? Well, no need to go there.

yes need

[honcho55]

Haha, I guess someone had to do it

[djeternal2]

@djeternal2

Nah I think veteran starting QBs getting rested is light years different than a RB for preseason rest. And like I say, light/no preseason doesn’t worry me necessarily. It’s that he’s not on the practice field. Bottom line, at best he’s still in the RB1 convo for a bit, but his career longevity is very much in question, imo. At worst? Well, no need to go there.

Why is it light years different? Actually more teams should do it when they have top RBs since RBs careers are shorter and as Reggie Bush & other RBs have stated all RBs deal with knee issues. I don't see it as an indictment on Gurley instead a smart move by the team and one I expected coming into the offseason. Why chance greater injury to your stud RB in a meaningless game in preseason? It's similar to the NFL scrapping the flag football game in the sand after Robert Edwards blew out his knee and was told he may never walk again back in 98.