You should probably sell George Kittle

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You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby Phaded » Fri May 24, 2019 7:38 pm

I invested in him this off-season.

I cripple every tight-end I have acquired via trade over the last 7 years.

You're welcome.

And if you don't sell him and he plummets, you can blame me but I'm warning you now.
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri May 24, 2019 7:43 pm

Haha, the Phaded curse.

In all seriousness, he for sure is a sell IF you can truly sell for a king’s ransom. I just haven’t been able to get that.

I fully accept that he probably will never again have a season like he did in 2018, but I still think he will be good for about 70-900-6+ for the next 5+ years, with the occasional TE1 or TE2 overall season thrown in.
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby ArrylT » Fri May 24, 2019 7:52 pm

I guess thanks for buying a TE I own no shares of is in order?
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby Lumps » Fri May 24, 2019 8:11 pm

Phaded wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 7:38 pm
I invested in him this off-season.

I cripple every tight-end I have acquired via trade over the last 7 years.

You're welcome.

And if you don't sell him and he plummets, you can blame me but I'm warning you now.
I think he's a sell without the Phaded curse. Knowing this now, even more so.

He's a sell for the prices I've seen him command. Like ODB style packages. He will never have a higher value than that, and that's just basic financial wisdom.

Combine that with not knowing what a Jimmy G commanded offense looks like, Pettis in year two, and adding Deebo/Coleman/McKinnom back etc..... I just don't see him getting the numbers he did before.
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby honcho55 » Fri May 24, 2019 8:33 pm

I traded him away this off season so my curse of sending guys off who blow up should offset the curse some

There’s gotta be some type of gamblers fallacy in here somewhere
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby Fezzik » Tue May 28, 2019 8:23 am

I know OP is joking...but I'm starting to think he kinda might be.

I love the player - he's a top 5 TE for me. I have him in 2/3 leagues. But if you can get a big package for him, or a late first on top of an Engram or Howard type player, I'd sell.
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby dlf_mikeh » Tue May 28, 2019 9:19 am

Kittle had the most YAC of any pass catcher in NFL history.

More than Moss. More than Rice. More than anybody ever.

This means he has no where to go but down. He's going to regress. His value will take a virtual tumble along with it, however he's still elite and perhaps will be the #1 TE for the next 4-5 years.
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby Blueboy » Tue May 28, 2019 9:33 am

dlf_mikeh wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:19 am
He's going to regress. His value will take a virtual tumble along with it, however he's still elite and perhaps will be the #1 TE for the next 4-5 years.
100% agreed. I'd hold him without an overpay. His yards are certain to go down, but maybe he'll eventually get more TDs in what has to be a better offense and with experience. Kelce only had 5/5/4 TDs in his first three seasons, Ertz only had 4/3/2/4 in his first four. Both are now a lock for I'd say. 7+

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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue May 28, 2019 9:48 am

I stole him for some mid round picks and Mariota in a SF to a Qb needy team. He's probably peaked but he's a top 5 TE for at least three more years.

He's essentially replacing Tyreek in my lineup.
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue May 28, 2019 9:49 am

dlf_mikeh wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:19 am
Kittle had the most YAC of any pass catcher in NFL history.

More than Moss. More than Rice. More than anybody ever.

This means he has no where to go but down. He's going to regress. His value will take a virtual tumble along with it, however he's still elite and perhaps will be the #1 TE for the next 4-5 years.
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue May 28, 2019 12:09 pm

dlf_mikeh wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:19 am
Kittle had the most YAC of any pass catcher in NFL history.

More than Moss. More than Rice. More than anybody ever.

This means he has no where to go but down. He's going to regress. His value will take a virtual tumble along with it, however he's still elite and perhaps will be the #1 TE for the next 4-5 years.
His TD's could easily go up to off set the yards some, though. Nobody expects the yardage again, I don't think.

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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby maxhyde » Tue May 28, 2019 3:14 pm

I agree with selling players when they become a top option but I would make sure I got a good deal
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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue May 28, 2019 3:27 pm

maxhyde wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 3:14 pm
I agree with selling players when they become a top option but I would make sure I got a good deal
Depends. Kittle was a buy for me. I got him for 1.07 and a future first, and in a TE premium I got him for 1.02 a 2020 1st and 2nd. If I can get 2-3 years of top end TE production and then turn around and sell him for a first, or even more (look at Kelce's current value), I think it's an easy win in both cases.

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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby sugbear65 » Tue May 28, 2019 3:52 pm

maxhyde wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 3:14 pm
I agree with selling players when they become a top option but I would make sure I got a good deal
I struggle with this idea all the time. I agree, a player can reach a level or ranking where there is literally nowhere for the value to go except down or stay the same. And if we preach sell high, that’s the ultimate sell high then, right?
But on the other hand, what kind of player are we striving for at every position? The Uber stud. So if you have one, does it really make sense to give them away? I guess maybe roster structure comes into play.
I honestly don’t know the right answer. I know in these cases it always come down to personal preference for me. For example, I’d sell Elliot when he hit top 2 because I hate that guy on a personal level. Or CMC this year only because he was never one of “my guys”. But I own OBJ and Nuk together on a few rosters, and you would have to pry them from my cold, dead hands. Especially Nuk.

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Re: You should probably sell George Kittle

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue May 28, 2019 4:47 pm

maxhyde wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 3:14 pm
I agree with selling players when they become a top option but I would make sure I got a good deal
This is true depending on the type of player you're dealing with, but Kittle looked every part of a stud last season.

Players are always going to have ups and downs in terms of yardage and touchdowns, but once you get a stud you should just keep him unless you get a Godfather offer. Kittle fits the description.


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