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Re: Hunter Henry. What did we see?

Postby ArrylT » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:06 pm

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Feels like a sell high moment to me.
Only if you think the injuries will continue. Otherwise, you're selling very low. He hasn't done enough yet to get his value back up to where his production will be if he stays healthy. There's no denying his talent.
As always league dependant - there are leagues were I tried to move Hunter Henry and had no success unless I was to consider prices outside the range I felt were fair. Other leagues it was not an issue. Agreed though that so long as he can avoid any more serious injuries there is plenty of time for him to develop that talent.
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Re: Hunter Henry. What did we see?

Postby mild » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 pm

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Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:44 pm
I found It interesting that through 44 attempts, KA only got 6 targets. The Chargers weren't running the ball and were also abusing a weak/inexperienced linebacker core.

He looked good, but I would expect this performance to be closer to anamoly than norm.
thebeast wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:59 pm
Feels like a sell high moment to me.
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Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:57 am
hes no will dissly but hes pretty good.

im joking but people are a lil too hype hes a good player but many te will have similar production. i just cant see enough consistent volume for him but he could be a great TD guy with not tons of yards. KA Williams and great pass catching backs put a damper on any expectations of consistent production for me from HH. likely a 5-7 target guy and if he scores that day you are happy. 100 yard games will be very rare though and dont forget the Steelers are terrible vs TE... (rambling continues)

From the Rotoworld matchups column this week, emphasis mine:

On the other hand, Hunter Henry has been fantastic. Since his Week 6 return, Henry is leading tight ends in PPR points, targets, receptions, receiving yards, and air yards. Henry is an elite TE1 right now and is the Chargers pass-catcher I’m most confident in. As a bonus, the Chiefs are in the bottom 29th percentile against fantasy tight ends.

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Re: Hunter Henry. What did we see?

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:20 am

mild wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 pm
Phaded wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:44 pm
I found It interesting that through 44 attempts, KA only got 6 targets. The Chargers weren't running the ball and were also abusing a weak/inexperienced linebacker core.

He looked good, but I would expect this performance to be closer to anamoly than norm.
thebeast wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:59 pm
Feels like a sell high moment to me.
BigBawseRoss wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:57 am
hes no will dissly but hes pretty good.

im joking but people are a lil too hype hes a good player but many te will have similar production. i just cant see enough consistent volume for him but he could be a great TD guy with not tons of yards. KA Williams and great pass catching backs put a damper on any expectations of consistent production for me from HH. likely a 5-7 target guy and if he scores that day you are happy. 100 yard games will be very rare though and dont forget the Steelers are terrible vs TE... (rambling continues)

From the Rotoworld matchups column this week, emphasis mine:

On the other hand, Hunter Henry has been fantastic. Since his Week 6 return, Henry is leading tight ends in PPR points, targets, receptions, receiving yards, and air yards. Henry is an elite TE1 right now and is the Chargers pass-catcher I’m most confident in. As a bonus, the Chiefs are in the bottom 29th percentile against fantasy tight ends.
Not so much, these days. He's really fallen off.
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Re: Hunter Henry

Postby Servo » Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:32 pm

Henry is a good tight end, and IMO, one of the best in the league.

He's a UFA after this season, so I'd like to see him test the market. This take is probably, already old but NEP would make a lot of sense.Or an offense that doesn't phase out the TE position like LAC has done plenty over the last couple of years.
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Re: Hunter Henry. What did we see?

Postby mild » Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:42 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:20 am
mild wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 pm
From the Rotoworld matchups column this week, emphasis mine:

On the other hand, Hunter Henry has been fantastic. Since his Week 6 return, Henry is leading tight ends in PPR points, targets, receptions, receiving yards, and air yards. Henry is an elite TE1 right now and is the Chargers pass-catcher I’m most confident in. As a bonus, the Chiefs are in the bottom 29th percentile against fantasy tight ends.
Not so much, these days. He's really fallen off.
Find me a TE that hasn't fallen off. It is an inconsistent position.

He missed 1/4 of the season and is still the TE8 on the year.

He's a TE1, and I think a pretty good one.

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Re: Hunter Henry. What did we see?

Postby jenkins.math » Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:50 pm

mild wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:42 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:20 am
mild wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:35 pm
From the Rotoworld matchups column this week, emphasis mine:

On the other hand, Hunter Henry has been fantastic. Since his Week 6 return, Henry is leading tight ends in PPR points, targets, receptions, receiving yards, and air yards. Henry is an elite TE1 right now and is the Chargers pass-catcher I’m most confident in. As a bonus, the Chiefs are in the bottom 29th percentile against fantasy tight ends.
Not so much, these days. He's really fallen off.
Find me a TE that hasn't fallen off. It is an inconsistent position.

He missed 1/4 of the season and is still the TE8 on the year.

He's a TE1, and I think a pretty good one.
He's a TE1 when healthy, which has been a problem, and owners want top dollar for him in trades. His price seems to be higher than his actual value.
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Re: Hunter Henry

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:31 pm

I thought he, like Keenan Allen, got an unfair tag as injury prone. That was before the season though and now it just seems like he's always going to miss a few games a year. Like Mild said though, he's still a pretty damn good TE when healthy
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Re: Hunter Henry. What did we see?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:34 pm

jenkins.math wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:50 pm
mild wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:42 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:20 am


Not so much, these days. He's really fallen off.
Find me a TE that hasn't fallen off. It is an inconsistent position.

He missed 1/4 of the season and is still the TE8 on the year.

He's a TE1, and I think a pretty good one.
He's a TE1 when healthy, which has been a problem, and owners want top dollar for him in trades. His price seems to be higher than his actual value.
Are they asking for an early 1st or late 1st?
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Re: Hunter Henry

Postby BenChodJamin » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:39 pm

So is it time to sell on Hunter Henry?

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Re: Hunter Henry

Postby mild » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:36 pm

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Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:39 pm
So is it time to sell on Hunter Henry?
Not really - why?

He's a young TE that has flashed great ball skills when healthy.

TE of all positions is one that can be played well into your 30's (see Witten, Gates, Olsen, Cook, Kelce, Gonzalez, Watson). It's also a position that typically takes at least 3 years to fully master - and yet, he's flashed in every year he's played so far. His career has barely started - he just turned 25 in December.

And most importantly - his situation is in flux right now given his contract - and we have no clue who his QB will be, staying or going.

If someone will give you great value, then sell. But I don't think you're getting that given his history so far - so he's still an upside/variance hold for me.

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Re: Hunter Henry

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:51 pm

mild wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:36 pm
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:39 pm
So is it time to sell on Hunter Henry?
Not really - why?

He's a young TE that has flashed great ball skills when healthy.

TE of all positions is one that can be played well into your 30's (see Witten, Gates, Olsen, Cook, Kelce, Gonzalez, Watson). It's also a position that typically takes at least 3 years to fully master - and yet, he's flashed in every year he's played so far. His career has barely started - he just turned 25 in December.

And most importantly - his situation is in flux right now given his contract - and we have no clue who his QB will be, staying or going.

If someone will give you great value, then sell. But I don't think you're getting that given his history so far - so he's still an upside/variance hold for me.
Yeah I doubt anyone is paying up big for him as I think he's a quiet name. I do think he's a TE1 easily moving forward and hope he can stay healthy. I classify his injuries as the un-lucky type. I've been a buyer when he's hurt. Loved the string of games he put together last year. I'll take a lot of QBs for him over Rivers at this point also.

Like Mild also stated, he's young and has actually played well early on in his career at a position we are told to be patient with. Not sure what nore you could realistically ask for
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Re: Hunter Henry

Postby jenkins.math » Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:11 pm

Jigga94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:51 pm

Yeah I doubt anyone is paying up big for him as I think he's a quiet name. I do think he's a TE1 easily moving forward and hope he can stay healthy. I classify his injuries as the un-lucky type. I've been a buyer when he's hurt. Loved the string of games he put together last year. I'll take a lot of QBs for him over Rivers at this point also.

Like Mild also stated, he's young and has actually played well early on in his career at a position we are told to be patient with. Not sure what nore you could realistically ask for
What more could you realistically ask for? Maybe playing a full season? When you have been injured every year of your 4 year career it gets harder and harder to classify you as "unlucky". Some people are just more injury prone than others and unfortunately he seems to be one of them. At some point rehab and offseason procedures get really old and you just don't want to do it anymore. If he continues to miss time every single year, I could see him hanging them up early.
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Re: Hunter Henry

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:32 pm

jenkins.math wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:11 pm
Jigga94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:51 pm

Yeah I doubt anyone is paying up big for him as I think he's a quiet name. I do think he's a TE1 easily moving forward and hope he can stay healthy. I classify his injuries as the un-lucky type. I've been a buyer when he's hurt. Loved the string of games he put together last year. I'll take a lot of QBs for him over Rivers at this point also.

Like Mild also stated, he's young and has actually played well early on in his career at a position we are told to be patient with. Not sure what nore you could realistically ask for
What more could you realistically ask for? Maybe playing a full season? When you have been injured every year of your 4 year career it gets harder and harder to classify you as "unlucky". Some people are just more injury prone than others and unfortunately he seems to be one of them. At some point rehab and offseason procedures get really old and you just don't want to do it anymore. If he continues to miss time every single year, I could see him hanging them up early.
Yep. Luck, is a great example. I think he was a little more financially set than HH, to say the least, but I don't see HH lasting into his mid 30's like some TE's at this rate.
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Re: Hunter Henry

Postby djeternal2 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:17 am

I remember another Chargers TE that flashed when on the field but could never stay healthy. Ladarius Green.
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Re: Hunter Henry

Postby CGW » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:01 pm

I don't see HH as a Luck type when it comes to the injuries and rehab causing him to quit. This guy is a gamer and most of his injuries he either played through or came back earlier than expected.

I guess you never know, injuries can derail any career but I'm not selling for less than he's worth and his market value has always been on the low side.
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