*MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:21 pm

jcc6fd wrote:
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If he goes out there this weekend and hangs with Mahomes are the people who dont like him dead and buried?
Funny thing is people still want to hate Mahomes (i.e. bound to regress), so I don't think you'll ever get rid of haters.
I don't know if that is hate. He had like an ALL TIME great season. Like in the 100 year history maybe 3 guys have had better season

A regression is just logical
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Weknownothing86 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:23 pm

dynastyninja wrote:
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Just a bunch of horn tooting in this thread. It's boring
Well its been a fun ride for the Lamar loyalists the last two games. I know his first pick will have the non believers crawling back here and the horn tooting will end and we will have to go on the defensive again, so im enjoying this.
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Weknownothing86 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:25 pm

MrUbuto wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:21 pm
jcc6fd wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:18 pm
Weknownothing86 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:04 am
If he goes out there this weekend and hangs with Mahomes are the people who dont like him dead and buried?
Funny thing is people still want to hate Mahomes (i.e. bound to regress), so I don't think you'll ever get rid of haters.
I don't know if that is hate. He had like an ALL TIME great season. Like in the 100 year history maybe 3 guys have had better season

A regression is just logical
I will admit I let my real team fandom get in the way of seeing how good Mahomes is and was one of the "doubters" but like Ubuto says the regression thing is just logical. Perhaps Mahomes blows that logic out of the water. We shall see.
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:03 am

jcc6fd wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:18 pm
Weknownothing86 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:04 am
If he goes out there this weekend and hangs with Mahomes are the people who dont like him dead and buried?
Funny thing is people still want to hate Mahomes (i.e. bound to regress), so I don't think you'll ever get rid of haters.
Even most of them agree Mahomes is QB1 though
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:43 am

And he’s dominating again without his best playmaker and no run game.my point is everyone jumped on the bandwagon to doubt Mahomes status as the MVP of the NFL. I don’t want to start this debate here, but suffice to say the doubt I’m calling out wasn’t a reasonable estimate that he wouldn’t match 100% of his yards or TDS from last year, but that he’d regress to something other than a top 3 QB in the league. I don’t see that happening
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Phaded » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:04 am

jcc6fd wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:43 am
And he’s dominating again without his best playmaker and no run game.my point is everyone jumped on the bandwagon to doubt Mahomes status as the MVP of the NFL. I don’t want to start this debate here, but suffice to say the doubt I’m calling out wasn’t a reasonable estimate that he wouldn’t match 100% of his yards or TDS from last year, but that he’d regress to something other than a top 3 QB in the league. I don’t see that happening
With all fairness, his performance against the Raiders could be done by just about any quarterback in the league.. it was just stupid how open the Raiders defense was letting players get.

Mahomes is going to be great for fantasy at this rate, but this team isn't going to be winning any Super Bowls.
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:29 am

Raiders season is going poorly so it’s time to be self critical to bring down the chiefs? I didn’t mention the team’s prospects at all, just Mahomes’ performance. I won’t predict a super bowl win because that seems like a fools errand, but they’re going to compete for it
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Phaded » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:45 am

What are you even on about? I literally went on to say he will be a great fantasy asset.

Teams who can't run the ball or play defense aren't winning a Super Bowl. That should be no secret.
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby MrUbuto » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:16 am

Phaded wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:45 am
What are you even on about? I literally went on to say he will be a great fantasy asset.

Teams who can't run the ball or play defense aren't winning a Super Bowl. That should be no secret.
I think the NFL is trying to change that

They want teams playing like the golden stage warriors.

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TE - HHenry(SD)ISmith(MIN)
K - Zurlien(LAR)MBryant(TB)
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:53 am

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Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:45 am
What are you even on about? I literally went on to say he will be a great fantasy asset.

Teams who can't run the ball or play defense aren't winning a Super Bowl. That should be no secret.
Lol you throw the shot in there about KC not winning any super bowls and then ask what the KC fan is on about? C'mon bro...

This is a Lamar thread anyway. It will be fun to see Mahomes and Lamar on the same field again
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QB: Russell, Baker Cam, Minshew, Foles (IR)
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby ArrylT » Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:04 pm

Yeah I am really looking forward to this matchup this week - should be a very good test for both teams & both QBs.
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Phaded » Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:44 pm

Jigga94 wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:53 am
Phaded wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:45 am
What are you even on about? I literally went on to say he will be a great fantasy asset.

Teams who can't run the ball or play defense aren't winning a Super Bowl. That should be no secret.
Lol you throw the shot in there about KC not winning any super bowls and then ask what the KC fan is on about? C'mon bro...

This is a Lamar thread anyway. It will be fun to see Mahomes and Lamar on the same field again
Legit didn't even know he was a KC fan. It makes more sense now.

But yeah, it's the first game this year I am actually looking forward to.
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby honcho55 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:17 pm

Getting plenty off topic, but how is KC written off as a SB contender? They *absolutely* are. Hell they gave NE a better game in the championship game than LAR gave em in the SB. They are on the exact same trajectory. Not saying I’d bet even money on them, but it’s very silly to me to just say they won’t win one.

Back to Lamar, I think this week is a great test. Yeah the defense he is playing is squishy, but he’s going to *have* to post points to compete with KC. The defenses he’s played so far weren’t good, and they beat up on em. Little different ball game here, even if it’s still soft defense.
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Tvols » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:44 pm

Wasn’t able to watch the game how did he do? Looks like he wasnt all that great today being 22/45 .

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby joeya2001 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:11 pm

Guess he sucks now.... sell window is now closed!
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