Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

[FantasyFreak]

The other Lamar Jackson threads - have been moved to the SF & Player Debate forums - just an FYI in case anyone was wondering - since we indeed do NOT need 3 similar active threads in one forum & I did not see the need to merge or lock any of them. So if you do feel the desire/need to discuss Lamar Jackson in multiple threads feel free - will just have to do it in different sections.

Fanboys outta control!!!!

[Patsfan86]

I contributed to the problem as well, i have a real "Argue with people about Lamar" issue going on and i just cant help myself. My friends are sick of it.

[mild]

So now that we've anointed Lamar the greatest QB to ever play the game *and* the only thing left to debate is "How long can he do it" - did anyone else here see Hayden Winks' charting of his hits so far this season? It's at the bottom of this page:

https://www.rotoworld.com/article/fanta ... l-forecast

At the least, it's fun fuel to the tyre-fire of this thread. Here's the takeaway paragraph if you're lazy / allergic to reading any more Lamar stats:

Overall, Lamar’s elite athleticism helps him avoid being hit hard both as a runner and passer. When Lamar runs, it’s most often on the safer designed runs, and he’s sliding or running out of bounds at a higher rate on the more dangerous quarterback scrambles. Lamar could (and arguably should) slide more often on his designed runs, but he is able to avoid hard hits because defenders slow down before contact to try to avoid getting juked. Lamar’s awareness has also kept him safer while throwing, so I’m skeptical that Lamar is more injury-prone than other quarterbacks like the Boomers like to say. Even if he is, Lamar shouldn’t change his style because he has Super Bowl winning upside while playing like this.

[Ice]

After his 3rd straight game with a 70% plus completion percentage and his 5th 100 plus passer rating this year (3rd in row) he is now clearly in the conversation for the MVP of the league and considered the favorite by some with 7 passing TD's in the last 2 games.

He is now 4th overall in Passer rating and 4th in total QBR for starting QB's.

[Mike11]

I think he's good.

[Space Cowboy]

I still think he'll face plant come playoffs when someone can limit him to 40-50 rushing yards.

[FantasyFreak]

I still think he'll face plant come playoffs when someone can limit him to 40-50 rushing yards.

I'm not going to wish it on him, but I watched the game, and it's a lot of high percentage throws. Quite frankly, he does exactly what is needed for the system. His legs keep LB's and Safeties more than honest, and they exploit it well. It's mostly throws to the TE's and RB's, and they tend to scheme very well, and Lamar is doing a great job within it. Plays like the ones to Ingram anybody could have made, however the throw to Andrews was pin point. It seems that they still focus on short stuff, and the middle of the field, and try to take the odd deep shot.

If Lamar had the mobility of Rivers, it would be a different story. He's not an elite passer, from that type of stand point, but the nightmare of his running ability opens up a lot in the passing game, and he's able to take advantage of it. He's not a guy that would be a great pure pocket passer, but he doesn't have to be, nor should he be. I think Roman has done a great job at creating a system to fit Lamar's strengths, an minimize his weaknesses. I am looking forward to seeing a re match vs the Pats, personally. I would like to see how they handle him a 2nd time round.

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I still think he'll face plant come playoffs when someone can limit him to 40-50 rushing yards.

I would like to know what defense you think there is that can do that, presuming he's 100%.

Until week 9, the obvious answer would have been "the Patriots".

You're still not giving him enough credit, imo.

[FantasyFreak]

I still think he'll face plant come playoffs when someone can limit him to 40-50 rushing yards.

I would like to know what defense you think there is that can do that, presuming he's 100%.

Until week 9, the obvious answer would have been "the Patriots".

You're still not giving him enough credit, imo.

The Chiefs played Lamar well. So did the Steelers, I believe, off the top of my head, although I think he ran for about 70 on the Steelers. Jackson had 61 on 16 vs the Pats in Baltimore. I think he would have a tougher time in Foxboro, for round 2. I don't think the Ravens go to the Super Bowl, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they do.

[Jigga94]

Miami held him to 6 rushing yards

[Phaded]

It's probably also worth noting that his receiving options are substantially less impressive than any of the other top fantasy quarterbacks.

That said - the Ravens are currently emphasizing his strengths extremely well, while mitigating his weaknesses, and allowing him to develop.

He has made strides as a passer - and if he continues to, watch out.

[FantasyFreak]

Miami held him to 6 rushing yards

I didn't mention that one, because they didn't exactly hold much of anything in check that game.

[Ice]

I still think he'll face plant come playoffs when someone can limit him to 40-50 rushing yards.

I would like to know what defense you think there is that can do that, presuming he's 100%.

Until week 9, the obvious answer would have been "the Patriots".

You're still not giving him enough credit, imo.

He is one of 7 QB's with 8 or more yards per attempt in the league this year with 6 plus starts. Tannehill could join that group this season given his trajectory.

The Ravens are the top scoring team in the league with a defense that is playing great. I don't see a face plant on the horizon any time soon.

Of course he could have a bad game. Watson and Wentz were horrid yesterday as an example.

[mild]

Miami held him to 6 rushing yards

I didn't mention that one, because they didn't exactly hold much of anything in check that game.

His point being that a "faceplant" where he "only" gains 50 yards on the ground - those two ideas aren't necessarily related to anything, or each other. He is better than simply a rushing QB, and we need to start treating him as such.

He is displaying elite accuracy in the middle of the field already - where the Ravens feature 3 extremely legitimate pass-catching TE's, for exactly this reason. His best outside WR is an 180lb Rookie.

I'm telling you. Year 3. They're going to fix this, and He's going to be even better.

[Jigga94]

Miami held him to 6 rushing yards

I didn't mention that one, because they didn't exactly hold much of anything in check that game.

His point being that a "faceplant" where he "only" gains 50 yards on the ground - those two ideas aren't necessarily related to anything, or each other. He is better than simply a rushing QB, and we need to start treating him as such.

He is displaying elite accuracy in the middle of the field already - where the Ravens feature 3 extremely legitimate pass-catching TE's, for exactly this reason. His best outside WR is an 180lb Rookie.

I'm telling you. Year 3. They're going to fix this, and He's going to be even better.

Boyle is very iffy to call legit, but he's gotta be the best TE3 out there... Also don't hate on Hollywood. He might not be a Julio mold but he does good things for this offense. Still sort of wish we had taken DK...