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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Patsfan86 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:13 pm

Jigga94 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:41 am
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Nope, he'll have to do it 10 times vs the Bears D before people start to accept he has the ability to be a quality QB in this league.
The 1985 bears D
Even then once he has one bad game people will crawl back up from those graves
The thing that is so funny is its not like was a bad QB last year and he gets all this hate. He wasnt great but he def wasnt bad and he obviously didnt lose them games. People saw him run a lot last year and formed an opinion on that and now they are seeing him throw and throw well and they just dont know what to do. Yes he played bad in the Chargers game, but he was a rookie vs a good defense in his first playoff game. Many things have changed since last season. He has had a whole offseason with the team. I think this offense could be something special. He has his security blanket well established in Andrews, he seems to have a nice play maker in Brown, a solid run game, and nice complimentary pieces in Hurst, Boykin, etc.

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby dynastyninja » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:16 pm

Just a bunch of horn tooting in this thread. It's boring

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby jcc6fd » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:18 pm

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Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:04 am
If he goes out there this weekend and hangs with Mahomes are the people who dont like him dead and buried?
Funny thing is people still want to hate Mahomes (i.e. bound to regress), so I don't think you'll ever get rid of haters.
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QB: Mahomes, Super Cam, Darnold, D. Jones
RB: Gurley, Fournette, Cook, Guice, Lindsay, D. Henderson, Bernard, M. Brown, J. Jackson
WR: Julio, K. Allen, Cooks, TY, Edelman, Ty Williams, MVS
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:20 pm

dynastyninja wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:16 pm
Just a bunch of horn tooting in this thread. It's boring
I started the thread my toot gets to be the loudest :dance:
QB - DWatson(HOU)Winston(TB)Finely(DEN)
RB - TGurley(LAR)DJohnson(ARI)NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)
WR - ODB(NYG)AJ Green(CIN)ACooper (DAL)CDavis(TEN)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Badgley(LAC)
Def - JAGS DET
[rookie] NHarry(NE)MBrown(BAL)Haskins(WAS)

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Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players dont take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd year players that were drafted

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:21 pm

jcc6fd wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:18 pm
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Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:04 am
If he goes out there this weekend and hangs with Mahomes are the people who dont like him dead and buried?
Funny thing is people still want to hate Mahomes (i.e. bound to regress), so I don't think you'll ever get rid of haters.
I don't know if that is hate. He had like an ALL TIME great season. Like in the 100 year history maybe 3 guys have had better season

A regression is just logical
QB - DWatson(HOU)Winston(TB)Finely(DEN)
RB - TGurley(LAR)DJohnson(ARI)NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)
WR - ODB(NYG)AJ Green(CIN)ACooper (DAL)CDavis(TEN)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Badgley(LAC)
Def - JAGS DET
[rookie] NHarry(NE)MBrown(BAL)Haskins(WAS)

1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2 - 2020's
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players dont take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd year players that were drafted

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Patsfan86 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:23 pm

dynastyninja wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:16 pm
Just a bunch of horn tooting in this thread. It's boring
Well its been a fun ride for the Lamar loyalists the last two games. I know his first pick will have the non believers crawling back here and the horn tooting will end and we will have to go on the defensive again, so im enjoying this.

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Patsfan86 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:25 pm

MrUbuto wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:21 pm
jcc6fd wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:18 pm
Weknownothing86 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:04 am
If he goes out there this weekend and hangs with Mahomes are the people who dont like him dead and buried?
Funny thing is people still want to hate Mahomes (i.e. bound to regress), so I don't think you'll ever get rid of haters.
I don't know if that is hate. He had like an ALL TIME great season. Like in the 100 year history maybe 3 guys have had better season

A regression is just logical
I will admit I let my real team fandom get in the way of seeing how good Mahomes is and was one of the "doubters" but like Ubuto says the regression thing is just logical. Perhaps Mahomes blows that logic out of the water. We shall see.

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:03 am

jcc6fd wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:18 pm
Weknownothing86 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:04 am
If he goes out there this weekend and hangs with Mahomes are the people who dont like him dead and buried?
Funny thing is people still want to hate Mahomes (i.e. bound to regress), so I don't think you'll ever get rid of haters.
Even most of them agree Mahomes is QB1 though
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QB: Mahomes, Baker, D. Jones, Minshew, Luck
RB: Mostert, Sony, Penny, D. Freeman, Snell, J. Jackson, Hyde, Gaskin
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Julio, Hollywood, Cooks, Preston, Parris, C. Davis, MVS
TE: Andrews, Henry, Fant, Irv
2020: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02, 4.08

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QB: Dak, Ryan, Minshew, Cam
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Hunt, Penny, J. Jackson
WR: DJM, Chark, Hardman, Mike Will, Diontae, Parris, C. Davis, Lazard
TE: Andrews, Henry, Gesicki
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:43 am

And he’s dominating again without his best playmaker and no run game.my point is everyone jumped on the bandwagon to doubt Mahomes status as the MVP of the NFL. I don’t want to start this debate here, but suffice to say the doubt I’m calling out wasn’t a reasonable estimate that he wouldn’t match 100% of his yards or TDS from last year, but that he’d regress to something other than a top 3 QB in the league. I don’t see that happening
10 Team Half PPR Scoring: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1Flex DST K
QB: Mahomes, Super Cam, Darnold, D. Jones
RB: Gurley, Fournette, Cook, Guice, Lindsay, D. Henderson, Bernard, M. Brown, J. Jackson
WR: Julio, K. Allen, Cooks, TY, Edelman, Ty Williams, MVS
TE: Kelce, Cook, McDonald
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Phaded » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:04 am

jcc6fd wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:43 am
And he’s dominating again without his best playmaker and no run game.my point is everyone jumped on the bandwagon to doubt Mahomes status as the MVP of the NFL. I don’t want to start this debate here, but suffice to say the doubt I’m calling out wasn’t a reasonable estimate that he wouldn’t match 100% of his yards or TDS from last year, but that he’d regress to something other than a top 3 QB in the league. I don’t see that happening
With all fairness, his performance against the Raiders could be done by just about any quarterback in the league.. it was just stupid how open the Raiders defense was letting players get.

Mahomes is going to be great for fantasy at this rate, but this team isn't going to be winning any Super Bowls.

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:29 am

Raiders season is going poorly so it’s time to be self critical to bring down the chiefs? I didn’t mention the team’s prospects at all, just Mahomes’ performance. I won’t predict a super bowl win because that seems like a fools errand, but they’re going to compete for it
10 Team Half PPR Scoring: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1Flex DST K
QB: Mahomes, Super Cam, Darnold, D. Jones
RB: Gurley, Fournette, Cook, Guice, Lindsay, D. Henderson, Bernard, M. Brown, J. Jackson
WR: Julio, K. Allen, Cooks, TY, Edelman, Ty Williams, MVS
TE: Kelce, Cook, McDonald
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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Phaded » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:45 am

What are you even on about? I literally went on to say he will be a great fantasy asset.

Teams who can't run the ball or play defense aren't winning a Super Bowl. That should be no secret.

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby MrUbuto » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:16 am

Phaded wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:45 am
What are you even on about? I literally went on to say he will be a great fantasy asset.

Teams who can't run the ball or play defense aren't winning a Super Bowl. That should be no secret.
I think the NFL is trying to change that

They want teams playing like the golden stage warriors.

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QB - DWatson(HOU)Winston(TB)Finely(DEN)
RB - TGurley(LAR)DJohnson(ARI)NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)
WR - ODB(NYG)AJ Green(CIN)ACooper (DAL)CDavis(TEN)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Badgley(LAC)
Def - JAGS DET
[rookie] NHarry(NE)MBrown(BAL)Haskins(WAS)

1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2 - 2020's
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players dont take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd year players that were drafted

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby Jigga94 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:53 am

Phaded wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:45 am
What are you even on about? I literally went on to say he will be a great fantasy asset.

Teams who can't run the ball or play defense aren't winning a Super Bowl. That should be no secret.
Lol you throw the shot in there about KC not winning any super bowls and then ask what the KC fan is on about? C'mon bro...

This is a Lamar thread anyway. It will be fun to see Mahomes and Lamar on the same field again
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Baker, D. Jones, Minshew, Luck
RB: Mostert, Sony, Penny, D. Freeman, Snell, J. Jackson, Hyde, Gaskin
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Julio, Hollywood, Cooks, Preston, Parris, C. Davis, MVS
TE: Andrews, Henry, Fant, Irv
2020: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02, 4.08

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Dak, Ryan, Minshew, Cam
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Hunt, Penny, J. Jackson
WR: DJM, Chark, Hardman, Mike Will, Diontae, Parris, C. Davis, Lazard
TE: Andrews, Henry, Gesicki
2020: 1.07, 1.09, 2.05
2021: 1, 1, 2, 3

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Re: *MYTH* Lamar Jackson will never be a good passer

Postby ArrylT » Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:04 pm

Yeah I am really looking forward to this matchup this week - should be a very good test for both teams & both QBs.
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