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Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby Londondynasty » Mon May 06, 2019 2:30 pm

I've got a very strong team, with good depth, save if Kelce goes down.

Who are people targeting for breakout or undervalued TEs this year? I'm thinking of Herndon and Dickson. Think if Baldwin does retire, the Seattle TE may have sneaky value
Team 1- 25 man keeper. Standard scoring idp. 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex, 1k, 1lb, 1dl, 1db, 1flex
Qb: Prescott, Rodgers
Rb: Gurley, Ingram, Lindsay, Drake, Ballage, Collins, Carson, Wilkins, Samuels, Foreman
WR: Evans, Crabtree, Watkins, TY Hilton, Hogan, Benjamin
TE: Kelce, Everett
K: Butker
LB: Leonard, Smith
DL: Dunlap
DB: Byard

Team 2: Superflex PPR. 35 keeper. 1 qb, 1 Superflex, 2 rb, 2wr, 4 flex, 1 te
QB: Rodgers, Newton, Roethlisberger, Lauletta, Bridgewater, Hill, Fitzpatrick
RB: Bell, Freeman, David Johnson, Ingram, Lindsay, Collins, Powell, Wilkins, Ballage, Edmonds,
WR: Hopkins, Cooks, Adams, Diggs, G.Tate, Cole, J.Brown, Rogers, Bourne, Hollins, Malone, Garcon, A.Tate Smith
TE: Kelce, Shaheen, Butt, Gathers, Harris

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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby djeternal2 » Mon May 06, 2019 2:42 pm

Herndon is a guy I would and have been targeting. He's being undervalued by the ff community as a whole imo. Dissly (Seattle TE) would be interesting except he's coming back from a patellar tendon tear which is the same injury Jimmy Graham had and Jimmy never seemed the same after coming back from it.
10 tm ppr 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, TE, K, TDEF (Yr 6)
QB - Ryan, Mariota, Wentz
RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, McKinnon, Foreman, I Smith, Ballage, CJA
WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Pettis, Godwin, Callaway
TE - Rudolph, Gesicki

10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
QB - Mahomes, Mayfield, Wentz,
RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, McKinnon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Z Jones, Gallup
TE - Njoku, Shaheen, Eifert, Herndon
DL - Watt, K Clark
LB - D Jones, R Evans
DB - K Neal, Edmunds

DLF Early Birds - 16 tm SF (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB - A Rodgers, Darnold, Rosen, M Rudolph
RB - Dam Williams, J Howard, Crowell, Duke, AP, Gore, CAP, M Murphy, B Hill
WR - Julio, Golladay, Kirk, Stills, Manny Sanders, Jaron Brown, Kumerow, N Harry
TE - Jarwin, Shaheen, Firkser, Conklin

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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon May 06, 2019 2:42 pm

Ian Thomas in CAR. I think Olsen is done. Keep an eye on Hockenson and Fant, even Smith. Good rookie class.
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QB—Roethlisberger, Mariota, Allen, Tannehill, Rudolph
RB—EE, Cohen, Henry, EMcGuire, JSamuels, Armstead, Adams
WR—MThomas, Landry, Miller, Hardman, Amendola, Meredith, Chark
TE—Burton, TJH, Knox, Jonnu, Shaheen
PK—Zuerlain
DEF—Ravens

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QB—Watson, Winston, Fitzpatrick, Rudolph
RB—Conner, Cohen, Howard, DWilliams, JSamuels, Snell, CEdmonds, JJackson
WR—Hill, Allen, Golladay, Jeffery, Amendola, Miller, CWilliams, Cain, Cobbs
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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby ericanadian » Mon May 06, 2019 2:55 pm

Londondynasty wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:30 pm
I've got a very strong team, with good depth, save if Kelce goes down.

Who are people targeting for breakout or undervalued TEs this year? I'm thinking of Herndon and Dickson. Think if Baldwin does retire, the Seattle TE may have sneaky value
Is Herndon undervalued? He seems pretty highly valued and I think there’s some risk there with Gase/Loggains coming in to run the offense. There is pretty much Orange Julius and no one else in their combined history of successful TEs and even he was essentially one and a half seasons.

I think Dickson depends on whether you think he’ll even be the top receiving option at TE over Vannett/Dissley.

Personally, I like Mark Andrews in Baltimore. He performed decently in his rookie year and should be able to continue to produce with Jackson. I don’t see much chatter on him either, though I suspect his owners may value him higher than the gen pop
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QB - Mariota, Stafford, Carr
RB - Gordon, Martin, Penny, Foreman, Guice, Zenner
WR - Julio, C. Davis, Watkins, Samuel, Lee
TE - Kelce, Henry, Andrews, I. Thomas
LB - Kuechly, J. Smith
DL - Ansah, Hunter, Hurst
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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby djeternal2 » Mon May 06, 2019 3:00 pm

ericanadian wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:55 pm
Londondynasty wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:30 pm
I've got a very strong team, with good depth, save if Kelce goes down.

Who are people targeting for breakout or undervalued TEs this year? I'm thinking of Herndon and Dickson. Think if Baldwin does retire, the Seattle TE may have sneaky value
Is Herndon undervalued? He seems pretty highly valued and I think there’s some risk there with Gase/Loggains coming in to run the offense. There is pretty much Orange Julius and no one else in their combined history of successful TEs and even he was essentially one and a half seasons.

I think Dickson depends on whether you think he’ll even be the top receiving option at TE over Vannett/Dissley.

Personally, I like Mark Andrews in Baltimore. He performed decently in his rookie year and should be able to continue to produce with Jackson. I don’t see much chatter on him either, though I suspect his owners may value him higher than the gen pop
Herndon per current ADP is going off the board as the 16th TE and 134th player off the board. To me that's clearly undervalued.

edit**
Per a 2014 article in regards to Eric Ebron's rookie year "According to Pro-Football-Reference.com's play index, only 26 rookie tight ends have ever topped the 500-yard mark."

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/footb ... ight-ends/

2 TEs were added to that list last year and unless I missed someone no one else has been added since the article was released. Those 2 players, Chris Herndon & Mark Andrews.
10 tm ppr 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, TE, K, TDEF (Yr 6)
QB - Ryan, Mariota, Wentz
RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, McKinnon, Foreman, I Smith, Ballage, CJA
WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Pettis, Godwin, Callaway
TE - Rudolph, Gesicki

10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
QB - Mahomes, Mayfield, Wentz,
RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, McKinnon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Z Jones, Gallup
TE - Njoku, Shaheen, Eifert, Herndon
DL - Watt, K Clark
LB - D Jones, R Evans
DB - K Neal, Edmunds

DLF Early Birds - 16 tm SF (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB - A Rodgers, Darnold, Rosen, M Rudolph
RB - Dam Williams, J Howard, Crowell, Duke, AP, Gore, CAP, M Murphy, B Hill
WR - Julio, Golladay, Kirk, Stills, Manny Sanders, Jaron Brown, Kumerow, N Harry
TE - Jarwin, Shaheen, Firkser, Conklin

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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby Ryantacular » Mon May 06, 2019 3:44 pm

Herndon is definitely undervalued. In a startup auction salary cap league with 32 teams i just joined , his salary is 4.5m while other tes like kelce and ertz and Kittle were 20m, and other tes like njoku and Howard and hunter Henry and Engram went for 10-14m

Even Dallas goedert went for 7m

Also fant and Hockenson went 12m

Hooper went 5.5m
Gerald Everett 3m


I would say pretty undervalued.

If i wasn’t on my phone i could give a better list of full results for better perspective.
16 Team Dynasty non ppr, 1QB 1 RB 1 WR 1 TE 3 Flex, 1 DL/DB/LB bonus points for touchdowns.
QB: Cam Newton, Blake Bortles
RB: Fournette, Chubb, K. Johnson, Penny
WR: Amari Cooper, Deandre Hopkins, AJ Green, C. Davis, DJ Moore
TE: Travis Kelce, Ebron
DL: Melvin Ingram, Aaron Donald
DB: Ha ha Clinton-Dix
LB: Mosley
D/ST: Panthers

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QB: Luck, Stafford, Winston
RB: M. Gordon, Kareem Hunt, K. Johnson, Drake, Lindsay
WR:Julio, Evans, Hopkins, Cooper, Callaway, Pettis, Boyd, G. Allison, Dorsett, Zay Jones
TE: Travis Kelce
DL: Melvin Ingram, Demarcus Lawrence, Dunlap
DB: Jamal Adams, Clinton-Dix
LB: Mosley, Lavonte David, Leonard Darius
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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby Goddard » Mon May 06, 2019 3:57 pm

Hooper was something like TE6 last year and could probably be had for a random 2nd.

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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby Stevens61310 » Mon May 06, 2019 4:00 pm

ericanadian wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:55 pm
Londondynasty wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:30 pm
I've got a very strong team, with good depth, save if Kelce goes down.

Who are people targeting for breakout or undervalued TEs this year? I'm thinking of Herndon and Dickson. Think if Baldwin does retire, the Seattle TE may have sneaky value
Is Herndon undervalued? He seems pretty highly valued and I think there’s some risk there with Gase/Loggains coming in to run the offense. There is pretty much Orange Julius and no one else in their combined history of successful TEs and even he was essentially one and a half seasons.

I think Dickson depends on whether you think he’ll even be the top receiving option at TE over Vannett/Dissley.

Personally, I like Mark Andrews in Baltimore. He performed decently in his rookie year and should be able to continue to produce with Jackson. I don’t see much chatter on him either, though I suspect his owners may value him higher than the gen pop

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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby Stevens61310 » Mon May 06, 2019 4:01 pm

Mark Andrews in Baltimore is my choice--I think he is the best TE Baltimore has--

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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Mon May 06, 2019 4:08 pm

Herndon sure seems to be properly valued by the people who actually own him. Austin Hooper is 24, was TE6 last year, and has an ADP between rookie picks 2.06 and 2.07. He's the TE12, Herndon is the TE 13 in terms of ADP.

If you look at TEs through age 25 since the merger, Eric Ebron ranks 9th in yards, 6th in TDs, and 5th in receptions. He just turned 26th and is going as TE8, a full round after Hunter Henry in startups.

If you have trouble with describing somebody being drafted as a starter as "undervalued" then I'd offer Mike Gesicki, whose team just traded for a better QB, didn't add anything in the draft at WR or TE, and will presumably be throwing a lot. He's cheaper than Herndon, whose team added Lev Bell and Crowder.
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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby FantasyDumDum » Mon May 06, 2019 4:20 pm

djeternal2 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 3:00 pm
ericanadian wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:55 pm
Londondynasty wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:30 pm
I've got a very strong team, with good depth, save if Kelce goes down.

Who are people targeting for breakout or undervalued TEs this year? I'm thinking of Herndon and Dickson. Think if Baldwin does retire, the Seattle TE may have sneaky value
Is Herndon undervalued? He seems pretty highly valued and I think there’s some risk there with Gase/Loggains coming in to run the offense. There is pretty much Orange Julius and no one else in their combined history of successful TEs and even he was essentially one and a half seasons.

I think Dickson depends on whether you think he’ll even be the top receiving option at TE over Vannett/Dissley.

Personally, I like Mark Andrews in Baltimore. He performed decently in his rookie year and should be able to continue to produce with Jackson. I don’t see much chatter on him either, though I suspect his owners may value him higher than the gen pop
Herndon per current ADP is going off the board as the 16th TE and 134th player off the board. To me that's clearly undervalued.

edit**
Per a 2014 article in regards to Eric Ebron's rookie year "According to Pro-Football-Reference.com's play index, only 26 rookie tight ends have ever topped the 500-yard mark."

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/footb ... ight-ends/

2 TEs were added to that list last year and unless I missed someone no one else has been added since the article was released. Those 2 players, Chris Herndon & Mark Andrews.
Herndon and Andrews you say? I like to hear that because I own Kelce in 5/6 of my leagues, Herndon in 4/6, and Andrews in 3/6.

Buuut, Ebron didn’t have 500 yards his rookie year did he? And Evan Engram did in 2017 right?
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TE: Kelce, Herndon, Andrews

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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby ninotoreS » Mon May 06, 2019 4:34 pm

Herndon. Gerald Everett. Mark Andrews. The Hayden Hurst drafter in your league could be having buyer's remorse, and so might give him away for next to nothing. Maybe the Hunter Henry owner in your league is dumb and you could buy-low. Goedert would be dynamite the instant Ertz misses games. Unlikely to be a factor in '19, but I think Kahale Warring is interesting. For a super deep dive, you could stash Darren Waller. You could make Irv Smith a 3rd or 4th round target in your rookie-draft.
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Mark Andrews in Baltimore is my choice--I think he is the best TE Baltimore has--
Careful. Hurst went two rounds before Andrews for a reason, and it's normal for a foot stress-fracture to ruin that calendar-year for a pass-catcher, so I don't think anyone has seen what Hurst can actually do in an NFL jersey yet.
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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby remedy29 » Mon May 06, 2019 5:30 pm

I second the Hayden Hurst choice. A lot of the TE here are not undervalued, specially Herdon, I actually think he'll be a bit overvalued going into next year.

If your looking for solid 2019 production from an easily available player, Jason Witten is the guy to get.
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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby Phaded » Mon May 06, 2019 5:37 pm

Vance McDonald.

In my leagues - Herndon is certainly not undervalued, I don't give a damn what ADP suggests.
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Re: Undervalued TEs to target?

Postby dizzler » Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm

I have some faith in a Doyle return to relevancy this year. He's also pretty cheap to most owners. Last year when he returned, he outsnapped Ebron from the get go. Tells me he is still the better TE tbh.

Also, if he would've kept the same pace all year that he did when he returned he would've been the TE6 in most PPR formats.

Entering the year at 29 could be a big con to Doyle but if you need a cheap serviceable backup on a contending team, I like Doyle the most this year.

Per ADP, Doyle is currently sitting right next to Gesicki.. to me that is CHEAP!
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