More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:04 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
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I take him at 2 if I'm the Redskins, or 3 if I'm the Lions.
And then NE trades for Stafford.
The reality is the coach and GM of the Lions have 1 year to prove to ownership they are a playoff caliber team, so I don't see them drafting Tua or trading Stafford.
Wonder if/how pressure on hot-seat coaches QBs front offices change with 2 extra teams making the playoffs. Will they be able to say, "hey, I made the playoffs..." and avoid the axe? Will the coaching carousel stop spinning so much?
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Orenthal Shames » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:04 am

Greg Cosell has been posting all his WR evaluations for the top prospects on his Twitter feed @gregosell.

“I believe based on film study that he is the best WR prospect in the 2020 draft and that there is not a close second.” - Greg Cosell
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QB: Rivers, Stidham
RB: Kamara, Sanders, Murray, Scott, Kelley
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby dynastyninja » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:18 am

212 pages and still going strong. It'll be hard to even revisit this a few years from now. I stopped regularly checking maybe 207 pages ago.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:28 am

Orenthal Shames wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:04 am
Greg Cosell has been posting all his WR evaluations for the top prospects on his Twitter feed @gregosell.

“I believe based on film study that he is the best WR prospect in the 2020 draft and that there is not a close second.” - Greg Cosell
Not surprised

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:09 am

Orenthal Shames wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:04 am
Greg Cosell has been posting all his WR evaluations for the top prospects on his Twitter feed @gregosell.

“I believe based on film study that he is the best WR prospect in the 2020 draft and that there is not a close second.” - Greg Cosell
Which WR?

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:16 am

bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:09 am
Orenthal Shames wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:04 am
Greg Cosell has been posting all his WR evaluations for the top prospects on his Twitter feed @gregosell.

“I believe based on film study that he is the best WR prospect in the 2020 draft and that there is not a close second.” - Greg Cosell
Which WR?
Jerry Jeudy
12 Team 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister
+1 Flex
Picks
1.01, 1.04, 1.05, 1.07, 1.09
2 2021 firsts (both mid to late)

10 Team .5 PPR
Wentz, Brees, Stafford
Swift, Dobbins, Akers, Miles Sanders DeVonta Freeman
Evans, DJ Moore, Sutton, Arob, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Marvin Jones, Shepard, Tate, Westbrook, Campbell
Mark Andrews, Darren Waller
+2 Flex
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No 2021 1st or 3rd

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Packerland » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:03 am

nathanq42 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:16 am
bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:09 am
Orenthal Shames wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:04 am
Greg Cosell has been posting all his WR evaluations for the top prospects on his Twitter feed @gregosell.

“I believe based on film study that he is the best WR prospect in the 2020 draft and that there is not a close second.” - Greg Cosell
Which WR?
Jerry Jeudy
I just worry that he goes to a run heavy team like SF with a mediocre QB and has to compete with Kittle and Deebo for opportunities.
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Goff, Brady, Lock, Winston
RB: Mixon, Drake,
WR: Hopkins, Adams, Godwin, OBJ, McLaurin, Mike Williams, D. Johnson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
K: Boswell, Gay
D/ST: Chargers, Eagles

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2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04,
2021: 2 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:58 am

Packerland wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:03 am
nathanq42 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:16 am
bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:09 am


Which WR?
Jerry Jeudy
I just worry that he goes to a run heavy team like SF with a mediocre QB and has to compete with Kittle and Deebo for opportunities.
He'd still be the best WR prospect, but if a really unfavorable spot.
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QB: Brady, Mayfield
RB: Saquon, Elliott, CEH, K.Hunt, Antonio Gibson, Malcolm Brown, Justin Jackson
WR: OBJ, Kupp, B.Cooks, D.Parker, Jeudy, Pittman, Shenault, Tyler Johnson, ESB, Scotty Miller, Jakobi Meyers
TE: H.Henry, C.Herndon, I Smith Jr
Taxi: Edwards, Herbert
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:01 am

Packerland wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:03 am
nathanq42 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:16 am
bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:09 am


Which WR?
Jerry Jeudy
I just worry that he goes to a run heavy team like SF with a mediocre QB and has to compete with Kittle and Deebo for opportunities.
He'd become the #1 there long-term.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:34 am

Cameron Giles wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:01 am
Packerland wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:03 am
nathanq42 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:16 am


Jerry Jeudy
I just worry that he goes to a run heavy team like SF with a mediocre QB and has to compete with Kittle and Deebo for opportunities.
He'd become the #1 there long-term.
Honestly I think Jeudy would be a maniac in SF. I know Deebo is kind of slot gadget type of guy, and Kittle is a monster wherever he is, but with Shanahan's scheming abilities I think that could be a top 5 offense even if Jimmy G isn't anything above average. There would just be so much for defenses to watch out for it would be a pick your poison scenario. Stuff the run vs stop Kittle vs cover the underneath routes of Jeudy and Deebo.
12 Team 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister
+1 Flex
Picks
1.01, 1.04, 1.05, 1.07, 1.09
2 2021 firsts (both mid to late)

10 Team .5 PPR
Wentz, Brees, Stafford
Swift, Dobbins, Akers, Miles Sanders DeVonta Freeman
Evans, DJ Moore, Sutton, Arob, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Marvin Jones, Shepard, Tate, Westbrook, Campbell
Mark Andrews, Darren Waller
+2 Flex
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No 2021 1st or 3rd

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:51 am

nathanq42 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:16 am
bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:09 am
Orenthal Shames wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:04 am
Greg Cosell has been posting all his WR evaluations for the top prospects on his Twitter feed @gregosell.

“I believe based on film study that he is the best WR prospect in the 2020 draft and that there is not a close second.” - Greg Cosell
Which WR?
Jerry Jeudy
Oh boy, film study!
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby skinfanjon » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:24 pm

This is gonna sound strange, but Jeudy moves a lot like Robert Griffin.

One thing I like to look for is whether a player is unique- a one of one, like Tyreek or Michael Thomas. The way Jeudy moves on the field doesnt look like any receiver I can think of. The only guy he reminds me of purely from a kinetic standpoint is RG3. Not trying to imply injury or anything, just remember how evasive Griffin was and I see similar type athlete from Jeudy.

He might just be a unique player.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:19 am

Football Outsiders BackCAST projections look in line with what other data driven analysis has suggested:

Taylor is the best prospect in the history of the database.
Swift is a very slightly below their average first rounder projection with great efficiency but relatively low usage compared to other first round backs, and average athleticism for a first rounder.
Dobbins is a solid first rounder.
Akers is undervalued with a projection very similar to Swift, as he tested slightly better than Swift and had better usage, but wasn’t nearly as efficient.
CEH has very few successful comparable players. He’s on the Ahmad Bradshaw track.
AJ Dillon is a freak athlete and is undervalued.
Anthony McFarland is a solid middle round guy.

They do a good job to mention that the biggest concern with Taylor is that he isn’t viewed as the #1 back by the scouting community, and that CEH could still be a productive wide receiver.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby lanemitchell96 » Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:42 am

OhCruelestRanter wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:19 am
Football Outsiders BackCAST projections look in line with what other data driven analysis has suggested:

Taylor is the best prospect in the history of the database.
Swift is a very slightly below their average first rounder projection with great efficiency but relatively low usage compared to other first round backs, and average athleticism for a first rounder.
Dobbins is a solid first rounder.
Akers is undervalued with a projection very similar to Swift, as he tested slightly better than Swift and had better usage, but wasn’t nearly as efficient.
CEH has very few successful comparable players. He’s on the Ahmad Bradshaw track.
AJ Dillon is a freak athlete and is undervalued.
Anthony McFarland is a solid middle round guy.

They do a good job to mention that the biggest concern with Taylor is that he isn’t viewed as the #1 back by the scouting community, and that CEH could still be a productive wide receiver.
All pretty much on point with my thoughts on these guys
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LINEUP: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, SF
QB: Mahomes, Kyler, Tua, Tannehill, Stidham
RB: CMC, Sanders, JT, CEH, Dobbins, Drake, Gibson, Pollard
WR: Godwin, DJM, ARob, Chark, Sutton, Jefferson, Shenault, Edwards, PWill, Campbell
TE: Engram, Goedert, Gesicki, Higbee, Hurst
2021 PICKS: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th


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RB: Ekeler, Royce, Blasingame, Ricard, Cunningham, Holyfield, Sproles
WR: Tre'Quan, Patterson, CLacy, JGordon, Isabella, DSpencer, TDavis, DMitchell, Parris
TE: Hollister, Moreau, LThomas, RSJ
DT: Donald, DJJones, AlWoods, TCrawford
DE: JoshAllen, Ferguson, Wolfe, Banogu, Jelks
LB: Leonard, Mercilus, Kwiatkoski, Klein, LCarter, LongJr
CB: Ryan, MDavis, KeFuller, Elliott, SJones
S: Willis, WHarris, Watkins, Addae, Epps, KJoseph
K: Forbath, Zeurlein, Castillo
P: Berry
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:01 am

lanemitchell96 wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:42 am
OhCruelestRanter wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:19 am
Football Outsiders BackCAST projections look in line with what other data driven analysis has suggested:

Taylor is the best prospect in the history of the database.
Swift is a very slightly below their average first rounder projection with great efficiency but relatively low usage compared to other first round backs, and average athleticism for a first rounder.
Dobbins is a solid first rounder.
Akers is undervalued with a projection very similar to Swift, as he tested slightly better than Swift and had better usage, but wasn’t nearly as efficient.
CEH has very few successful comparable players. He’s on the Ahmad Bradshaw track.
AJ Dillon is a freak athlete and is undervalued.
Anthony McFarland is a solid middle round guy.

They do a good job to mention that the biggest concern with Taylor is that he isn’t viewed as the #1 back by the scouting community, and that CEH could still be a productive wide receiver.
All pretty much on point with my thoughts on these guys
Same here, although I expected Dobbins to project a little better, he was much closer to Swift and Akers than Taylor. Then again, Dobbins didn’t work out.
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