Melvin Gordon says hello...
Taylor is better than him
1000x this. People said the same about USC receivers before JuJu, Big 12 QBs before Mahomes and Baker, and they said it about Wisconsin RBs before Melvin Gordon, which makes this take extra weird.
it's been proven that the college mileage factor isnt a factor in the NFLbjd5211 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:22 am There are I think 3 common causes of concern about Taylor: fumbles, receiving ability, and number of touches he's already received.
- Fumbles are absolutely the biggest concern for me, nothing will kill a RBs career faster (outside of major injury) than a fumbling problem. He has to get this fixed, but it is absolutely fixable with good coaching and putting in the work on his part.
- His receiving ability is more of a question mark than a concern for me, Wisconsin just doesn't feature the RB as a receiver. They did make an effort to use him more as a receiver this year and I think he did well and showed he can succeed at that part of the game. He'll never be CMC or Barkley as a receiver, but I don't think it will be a weakness or liability to his game, he'll be good enough.
- Workload is a complete non-factor for me, if he had any injury history it might be a bit of an issue, but he's never missed any time due to injury or have any noteworthy injuries I can find news of. There are plenty of RBs throughout the history of the game that have carried big workloads and been highly effective into their late 20's or even into their 30's. There's zero reason to think it's going to be anything that affects him until he's at least 25 or 26 years old when he's coming up on his 2nd contract, and I'm not drafting rookie RBs for what they are going to do 5+ years from now.
He was a great track athlete in HS, so I expect he has a great combine and really improves his stock. He could very well be the #1 RB and overall player in most people's minds on this board by the end of the day Friday after the RBs have worked out.
He has a semi-valid point. Other than Michael Bennett and Gordon, the vast bulk of their famed backs have flamed out. They are famous for building mega offensive lines and featuring backs that are more a biproduct of the OL play then the reverse. That being said, Taylor looks much more like a Gordon or Bennett than a Dayne or Ball or even lesser backs.
Those aren’t analogous comparisons. The USC WR curse wasn’t related to system, the Wisconsin curse was.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:48 am1000x this. People said the same about USC receivers before JuJu, Big 12 QBs before Mahomes and Baker, and they said it about Wisconsin RBs before Melvin Gordon, which makes this take extra weird.
Also, for all of you pointing out that we forgot Melvin Gordon, keep that same energy for James White!
What's the system? You can't punish an RB for playing behind a great offensive line. Sure, they may not play behind a line that talented in the NFL, but it doesn't necessarily mean the RB is fool's gold.stoneghost28 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:23 amThose aren’t analogous comparisons. The USC WR curse wasn’t related to system, the Wisconsin curse was.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:48 am1000x this. People said the same about USC receivers before JuJu, Big 12 QBs before Mahomes and Baker, and they said it about Wisconsin RBs before Melvin Gordon, which makes this take extra weird.
Also, for all of you pointing out that we forgot Melvin Gordon, keep that same energy for James White!
Taylor's fumble rate is comparable to Miles Sanders, and nobody is talking about that right now. Taylor is the better college player/prospect to Miles, so I don't think it's a major concern for me. It's correctible. I remember AP was a fumble machine early in his career. The workload thing does not concern me. He's shown to be durable, and shown he can handle a full work load without issue on a yearly basis.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:22 am There are I think 3 common causes of concern about Taylor: fumbles, receiving ability, and number of touches he's already received.
- Fumbles are absolutely the biggest concern for me, nothing will kill a RBs career faster (outside of major injury) than a fumbling problem. He has to get this fixed, but it is absolutely fixable with good coaching and putting in the work on his part.
- His receiving ability is more of a question mark than a concern for me, Wisconsin just doesn't feature the RB as a receiver. They did make an effort to use him more as a receiver this year and I think he did well and showed he can succeed at that part of the game. He'll never be CMC or Barkley as a receiver, but I don't think it will be a weakness or liability to his game, he'll be good enough.
- Workload is a complete non-factor for me, if he had any injury history it might be a bit of an issue, but he's never missed any time due to injury or have any noteworthy injuries I can find news of. There are plenty of RBs throughout the history of the game that have carried big workloads and been highly effective into their late 20's or even into their 30's. There's zero reason to think it's going to be anything that affects him until he's at least 25 or 26 years old when he's coming up on his 2nd contract, and I'm not drafting rookie RBs for what they are going to do 5+ years from now.
He was a great track athlete in HS, so I expect he has a great combine and really improves his stock. He could very well be the #1 RB and overall player in most people's minds on this board by the end of the day Friday after the RBs have worked out.
You gotta think it's coming. BUT it also might be a, uhhh... premium article nowadays.AussieMate wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:57 pm Real question, where's Mike at with his RB analysis, I'm dying here.
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