More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby CGW » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:32 am

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Is nobody concerned with the terrible defense that is displayed in 80 percent of Lamb's best plays? It reminds me of that RB who's best plays are all running through 10 foot lanes. I'm hearing some podcasters saying he's in a tier of his own, and he could be THE WR1, or a top 5 NFL WR, and I'm not seeing it. I think he's good, but I think his hype is going over my head.
So you are saying he played college football last year? Ha

I agree on the highlights. I see it more often than not when I watch highlight videos of most WR/RB prospects. Just like Henderson last year...that guy looked electric, but I saw him get touched once in a 5 minute cut up of plays. The disparity in college football makes it hard for my eye to evaluate most of the time. It's why I have to rely on the NFL most of the time to draft players into a tier for me. It's why I really appreciate when people do a film breakdown to show what they see and why it's important. (Like Mike's RB report, or Cameron Giles's Ruggs review)

At least with WRs you can see how they get off the line, how crisp they are in their routes, how much wasted movement they have, and how they catch the ball regardless of how quickly they burnt by the defender from Wofford picking daisies.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Lord_Varys » Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:51 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:52 am
Is nobody concerned with the terrible defense that is displayed in 80 percent of Lamb's best plays? It reminds me of that RB who's best plays are all running through 10 foot lanes. I'm hearing some podcasters saying he's in a tier of his own, and he could be THE WR1, or a top 5 NFL WR, and I'm not seeing it. I think he's good, but I think his hype is going over my head.
Not a major concern for me. Dude is a baller, you see it every time the ball comes his way. Still makes crazy catches, gets open before and after the catch, great athlete... Sometimes you just see a guy and know he's gonna be a star in the NFL and that's the feeling I get with him.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:08 pm

Lord_Varys wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:51 pm
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Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:52 am
Is nobody concerned with the terrible defense that is displayed in 80 percent of Lamb's best plays? It reminds me of that RB who's best plays are all running through 10 foot lanes. I'm hearing some podcasters saying he's in a tier of his own, and he could be THE WR1, or a top 5 NFL WR, and I'm not seeing it. I think he's good, but I think his hype is going over my head.
Not a major concern for me. Dude is a baller, you see it every time the ball comes his way. Still makes crazy catches, gets open before and after the catch, great athlete... Sometimes you just see a guy and know he's gonna be a star in the NFL and that's the feeling I get with him.
Yeah, but I don't see a star. I see a WR2 in the NFL. I guess I'm just not seeing what you are seeing. To each their own.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:09 pm

Tua with a 13 on the Wonderlic. Worst of any QB. Yikes.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby DJB » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:12 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:09 pm
Tua with a 13 on the Wonderlic. Worst of any QB. Yikes.
Ouch.

You have numbers for any other players?
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby jenkins.math » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:18 pm

DJB wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:12 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:09 pm
Tua with a 13 on the Wonderlic. Worst of any QB. Yikes.
Ouch.

You have numbers for any other players?
Yeah I was already out on Tua due to the injuries, but a 13 for a QB is almost a death sentence.

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Herbert 25
Love 27
Eason 23
Hurts 18
Fromm 35
Gordon 25
Morgan 23
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WR: OBJ, Evans, Juju, Moore, Jeudy, Reagor, Corey Davis, Cooks
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K: Butker
D/ST: Titans, Bears
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TE: Schultz, Ebron, Thomas, Keene, Jarwin
K: Tucker
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby DJB » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:20 pm

jenkins.math wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:18 pm
DJB wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:12 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:09 pm
Tua with a 13 on the Wonderlic. Worst of any QB. Yikes.
Ouch.

You have numbers for any other players?
Yeah I was already out on Tua due to the injuries, but a 13 for a QB is almost a death sentence.

Burrow 34
Herbert 25
Love 27
Eason 23
Hurts 18
Fromm 35
Gordon 25
Morgan 23
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Awesome! Do you have a link? I'm hoping to see those for all the other skill positions as well.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:24 pm

DJB wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:20 pm
jenkins.math wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:18 pm
DJB wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:12 pm


Ouch.

You have numbers for any other players?
Yeah I was already out on Tua due to the injuries, but a 13 for a QB is almost a death sentence.

Burrow 34
Herbert 25
Love 27
Eason 23
Hurts 18
Fromm 35
Gordon 25
Morgan 23
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Awesome! Do you have a link? I'm hoping to see those for all the other skill positions as well.

Super appreciated!
Interesting because Tua clearly looks smarter on the field compared to Love. Love's decision making is terrible.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:43 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:09 pm
Tua with a 13 on the Wonderlic. Worst of any QB. Yikes.
Lamar Jackson - 13 (first-round pick of the 2018 NFL Draft)[50]
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QB: Brady, Mayfield
RB: Saquon, Elliott, CEH, K.Hunt, Antonio Gibson, Malcolm Brown, Justin Jackson
WR: OBJ, Kupp, B.Cooks, D.Parker, Jeudy, Pittman, Shenault, Tyler Johnson, ESB, Scotty Miller, Sims Jr
TE: H.Henry, C.Herndon, I Smith Jr
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Packerland » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:47 pm

YouMightDieTryin wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:43 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:09 pm
Tua with a 13 on the Wonderlic. Worst of any QB. Yikes.
Lamar Jackson - 13 (first-round pick of the 2018 NFL Draft)[50]
He good?
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Goff, Brady, Lock, Winston
RB: Mixon, Drake,
WR: Hopkins, Adams, Godwin, OBJ, McLaurin, Mike Williams, D. Johnson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
K: Boswell, Gay
D/ST: Chargers, Eagles

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2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04,
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:51 pm

Also:

Joe Burrow - 34 (upcoming pick in the 2020 NFL Draft)[49]

Blaine Gabbert – 42 (first-round pick in the 2011 NFL Draft)[59]
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QB: Brady, Mayfield
RB: Saquon, Elliott, CEH, K.Hunt, Antonio Gibson, Malcolm Brown, Justin Jackson
WR: OBJ, Kupp, B.Cooks, D.Parker, Jeudy, Pittman, Shenault, Tyler Johnson, ESB, Scotty Miller, Sims Jr
TE: H.Henry, C.Herndon, I Smith Jr
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby KingsKing » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:51 pm

It's not ideal but not the end of the world either, Lamar Jackson scored a 13, Marino a 15, Jim Kelly 15, Mcnabb 14, Mcnair 14 etc etc

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:56 pm

Packerland wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:47 pm
YouMightDieTryin wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:43 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:09 pm
Tua with a 13 on the Wonderlic. Worst of any QB. Yikes.
Lamar Jackson - 13 (first-round pick of the 2018 NFL Draft)[50]
He good?
Yeah, but Lamar wins with his exceptional athleticism, which Tua doesn't have.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:57 pm

KingsKing wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:51 pm
It's not ideal but not the end of the world either, Lamar Jackson scored a 13, Marino a 15, Jim Kelly 15, Mcnabb 14, Mcnair 14 etc etc
Yes, but the list of successful players around that number is much lower than the higher numbers. The etc. etc. isn't really, there aren't too many more you can find after the ones you listed. Bradshaw, but he had the benefit of an all time defense for most of his career.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Packerland » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:59 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:56 pm
Packerland wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:47 pm
YouMightDieTryin wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:43 pm


Lamar Jackson - 13 (first-round pick of the 2018 NFL Draft)[50]
He good?
Yeah, but Lamar wins with his exceptional athleticism, which Tua doesn't have.
I know, I was kidding. Tua is definitely a better pure passer than Lamar though. I would be worried to take him due to his hip and ankle injuries but can't see him getting out of the top 6.
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QB: Goff, Brady, Lock, Winston
RB: Mixon, Drake,
WR: Hopkins, Adams, Godwin, OBJ, McLaurin, Mike Williams, D. Johnson
TE: Andrews, Goedert
K: Boswell, Gay
D/ST: Chargers, Eagles

Picks:
2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.04,
2021: 2 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds


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