More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby ravn88 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm

Mel Kipers latest Mock Draft:

¹) Joe Borrow, Bengals
⁵) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
⁶) Justin Herbert, Chargers
¹³) Jerry Jeudy, 49'ers
¹⁵) Henry Ruggs III, Broncos
¹⁷) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys
¹⁸) D'Andre Swift, Dolphins
¹⁹) Tee Higgins, Raiders
²¹) Justin Jefferson, Eagles
²²) Denzel Mims, Bills
²³) Jordan Love, Pats
³⁰) Chase Claypool, Packers

7 Wr in the first round. The draft cant come soon enough :-)
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: M. Gordon, M. Ingram, J. Mixon, A. Jones & Jamaal W
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones K. Allen, M. Jones, J Crowder, Humpries & Moncrief
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 3RB 5WR 2TE 3FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup:

QB: Wentz, Goff Josh Allen & Lock
RB: Barkley Zeke K. Hunt McCoy Penny D. Williams & Ito
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow & Zay
TE: Engram OJ Howard Waller & Everett
DEF: Pats Jags & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Teddy Haskins
RB: CMC Zeke Miles AP Gaskins
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf Meyers
TE: Engram Ebron Herndon
DEF: Tampa

1.01 2.06 3.01 3.06 4.06

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby alewilliam789 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:30 pm

ravn88 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm
Mel Kipers latest Mock Draft:

¹) Joe Borrow, Bengals
⁵) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
⁶) Justin Herbert, Chargers
¹³) Jerry Jeudy, 49'ers
¹⁵) Henry Ruggs III, Broncos
¹⁷) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys
¹⁸) D'Andre Swift, Dolphins
¹⁹) Tee Higgins, Raiders
²¹) Justin Jefferson, Eagles
²²) Denzel Mims, Bills
²³) Jordan Love, Pats
³⁰) Chase Claypool, Packers

7 Wr in the first round. The draft cant come soon enough :-)
Chase Claypool a 1st rounder. Hell the bleep no. Can’t believe people get paid to put sh1t like this out,
12 Owner 1 PPR (4th Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 7-6
QB - Watson, Prescott, Carr
WR - Courtland Sutton, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Josh Reynolds, Justin Watson, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
RB - Alvin Kamara, Josh Jacobs
TE - T.J. Hockenson, I Thomas, J. Oliver

Picks:
2020-
1.05, 3.06


12 Owner 1 PPR (3rd Season) 1QB, 2WR, 1RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1K, 1 DEF -- 20 man roster
Record: 6-7
QB: Rivers, Wentz, Lock
RB: David Johnson, Mixon, Hyde
WR: Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Brandin Cooks, AJ Green, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Josh Reynolds, Andy Isabella
TE: Kittle, OJ Howard, Chris Herndon

Picks:
2020-
1st and 3rd

12 Owner 1 PPR (1st Season) 1QB 1-3 RB 1-3 WR 1-2 TE
1 K 1D/ST — 20 man rosters
Record: 7-6
QB: Mahomes, Stafford
RB: Chubb, Guice, Penny, Duke Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR: Landry, Sutton, Marvin Jones, Harry, Crowder, Josh Reynolds
TE: Hooper, Goedert

2020:
2 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd Round Picks

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:35 pm

djeternal2 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:23 am
BTW if Ruggs is so awesome and talked about as the first WR being taken why was he the third or 4th best WR on his team in regards to production? Waddle outproduced him as a Freshman in 18 vs Ruggs as a Sophomore. Hell Irv Smith nearly matched his production that year as well. A flippin TE! Then yeah fast forward to 2019 and Smith & Jeudy are well ahead of Ruggs. If he's soooo talented why didn't the cream rise to the top? Why was he never the first or second option in the offense? Like I said beat out by a Frosh in 18 (Waddle) and basically equal to a TE (Irv Smith) that same year. The TE was gone in 19 so Ruggs saw a few more targets. Sadly it actually reduced his catches from 46 to 40 and basically even on yardage (741 to 746).
You're answering your own question. Alabama's offensive production is more diluted than any offense we've seen in recent memory.

2017:
Pass Catchers: Calvin Ridley, Jerry Jeudy, Irv Smith, Henry Ruggs, Jaylen Waddle, Devonta Smith
RBs: Damien Harris, Bo Scarborough, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris

Total Passing Yards: Under 2800

Obviously the wealth of talent continued in 2018 and 2019.

This is why market share, while a useful stat, still needs context. Jalen Reagor, for example played with....? Not saying Reagor isn't good, but it's much easier to have a higher market share when you aren't playing with anyone.

Ruggs' statistical profile in terms of market share and breakout age isn't going to be great. So, you have to look at other factors to determine if he actually has the skill and talent necessary to translate to the NFL. When you really research and explore that, you'll find that he checks a lot of boxes:

- Elite speed
- Saw most of his routes as an outside WR
- Improved route running
- Used on all three levels
- Experience running a diverse route tree
- Good hands
- Elite stop/start ability
- High touchdown rate
- Big Athletic ability, which is a bonus

That's likely why NFL scouts have him as a 1st round WR despite the raw numbers.

There's certainly no guarantee Ruggs will be a star, but I just don't see how people can pretend like the amount of talent he competed with is absolutely not the overwhelming factor in his production. Even when you consider that, he still maximized the absolute most out of his role in that offense.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby cantguardjake » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:57 pm

Herbert is terrible, surely no team is dumb enough to waste a first round pick on him.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:04 pm

cantguardjake wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:57 pm
Herbert is terrible, surely no team is dumb enough to waste a first round pick on him.
You know it's happening.
DLF Early Birds Special/ Year 1 (16 Team SuperFlex 25 man roster Start 10)

Record: 28-5 Division Champ/League High Scorer/Runner Up

Wentz, Stafford. Driskel
Chubb, Cook, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, D Washington
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Crowder, Agholor, Sanu, , D Robinson, T Taylor
Kittle, Olsen, McDonald, Clay

Taxi: Mims, Asiasi

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby cantguardjake » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:29 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:04 pm
cantguardjake wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:57 pm
Herbert is terrible, surely no team is dumb enough to waste a first round pick on him.
You know it's happening.
Oh I know :lol:

I honestly do not see it though.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:29 pm

alewilliam789 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:30 pm
ravn88 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm
Mel Kipers latest Mock Draft:

¹) Joe Borrow, Bengals
⁵) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
⁶) Justin Herbert, Chargers
¹³) Jerry Jeudy, 49'ers
¹⁵) Henry Ruggs III, Broncos
¹⁷) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys
¹⁸) D'Andre Swift, Dolphins
¹⁹) Tee Higgins, Raiders
²¹) Justin Jefferson, Eagles
²²) Denzel Mims, Bills
²³) Jordan Love, Pats
³⁰) Chase Claypool, Packers

7 Wr in the first round. The draft cant come soon enough :-)
Chase Claypool a 1st rounder. Hell the bleep no. Can’t believe people get paid to put sh1t like this out,
It’s easier to believe when you realize it’s not just ESPN paying Mel.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 pm

ravn88 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm
Mel Kipers latest Mock Draft:

¹) Joe Borrow, Bengals
⁵) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
⁶) Justin Herbert, Chargers
¹³) Jerry Jeudy, 49'ers
¹⁵) Henry Ruggs III, Broncos
¹⁷) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys
¹⁸) D'Andre Swift, Dolphins
¹⁹) Tee Higgins, Raiders
²¹) Justin Jefferson, Eagles
²²) Denzel Mims, Bills
²³) Jordan Love, Pats
³⁰) Chase Claypool, Packers

7 Wr in the first round. The draft cant come soon enough :-)
Lamb to the Cowboys who just paid Cooper big bucks and have Gallup?
12 Team 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister
+1 Flex
Picks
1.01, 1.04, 1.05, 1.07, 1.09
2 2021 firsts (both mid to late)

10 Team .5 PPR
Wentz, Brees, Stafford
Swift, Dobbins, Akers, Miles Sanders DeVonta Freeman
Evans, DJ Moore, Sutton, Arob, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Marvin Jones, Shepard, Tate, Westbrook, Campbell
Mark Andrews, Darren Waller
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No 2021 1st or 3rd

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:36 pm

nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 pm
ravn88 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm
Mel Kipers latest Mock Draft:

¹) Joe Borrow, Bengals
⁵) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
⁶) Justin Herbert, Chargers
¹³) Jerry Jeudy, 49'ers
¹⁵) Henry Ruggs III, Broncos
¹⁷) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys
¹⁸) D'Andre Swift, Dolphins
¹⁹) Tee Higgins, Raiders
²¹) Justin Jefferson, Eagles
²²) Denzel Mims, Bills
²³) Jordan Love, Pats
³⁰) Chase Claypool, Packers

7 Wr in the first round. The draft cant come soon enough :-)
Lamb to the Cowboys who just paid Cooper big bucks and have Gallup?
The Fantasy fallout would be epic!
DLF Early Birds Special/ Year 1 (16 Team SuperFlex 25 man roster Start 10)

Record: 28-5 Division Champ/League High Scorer/Runner Up

Wentz, Stafford. Driskel
Chubb, Cook, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, D Washington
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Crowder, Agholor, Sanu, , D Robinson, T Taylor
Kittle, Olsen, McDonald, Clay

Taxi: Mims, Asiasi

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:39 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:36 pm
nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 pm
ravn88 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm
Mel Kipers latest Mock Draft:

¹) Joe Borrow, Bengals
⁵) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
⁶) Justin Herbert, Chargers
¹³) Jerry Jeudy, 49'ers
¹⁵) Henry Ruggs III, Broncos
¹⁷) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys
¹⁸) D'Andre Swift, Dolphins
¹⁹) Tee Higgins, Raiders
²¹) Justin Jefferson, Eagles
²²) Denzel Mims, Bills
²³) Jordan Love, Pats
³⁰) Chase Claypool, Packers

7 Wr in the first round. The draft cant come soon enough :-)
Lamb to the Cowboys who just paid Cooper big bucks and have Gallup?
The Fantasy fallout would be epic!
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12 Team 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister
+1 Flex
Picks
1.01, 1.04, 1.05, 1.07, 1.09
2 2021 firsts (both mid to late)

10 Team .5 PPR
Wentz, Brees, Stafford
Swift, Dobbins, Akers, Miles Sanders DeVonta Freeman
Evans, DJ Moore, Sutton, Arob, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Marvin Jones, Shepard, Tate, Westbrook, Campbell
Mark Andrews, Darren Waller
+2 Flex
Picks
No 2021 1st or 3rd

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:53 pm

nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 pm
ravn88 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm
Mel Kipers latest Mock Draft:

¹) Joe Borrow, Bengals
⁵) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
⁶) Justin Herbert, Chargers
¹³) Jerry Jeudy, 49'ers
¹⁵) Henry Ruggs III, Broncos
¹⁷) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys
¹⁸) D'Andre Swift, Dolphins
¹⁹) Tee Higgins, Raiders
²¹) Justin Jefferson, Eagles
²²) Denzel Mims, Bills
²³) Jordan Love, Pats
³⁰) Chase Claypool, Packers

7 Wr in the first round. The draft cant come soon enough :-)
Lamb to the Cowboys who just paid Cooper big bucks and have Gallup?
I know, right? I’ve been seeing that lately in these mocks. I don’t think he’ll be there, anyway, so it probably won’t matter. I think it will be either CJ Henderson or K.Chaisson, because they need both positions, pretty bad. If all three were on the board at #17, which is doubtful but they would definitely have to strongly consider Lamb. Personally, I would like it because they would be tough to deal with and they could always go CB in the 2nd. I can’t wait for this draft!

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:25 pm

nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 pm
ravn88 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm
Mel Kipers latest Mock Draft:

¹) Joe Borrow, Bengals
⁵) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
⁶) Justin Herbert, Chargers
¹³) Jerry Jeudy, 49'ers
¹⁵) Henry Ruggs III, Broncos
¹⁷) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys
¹⁸) D'Andre Swift, Dolphins
¹⁹) Tee Higgins, Raiders
²¹) Justin Jefferson, Eagles
²²) Denzel Mims, Bills
²³) Jordan Love, Pats
³⁰) Chase Claypool, Packers

7 Wr in the first round. The draft cant come soon enough :-)
Lamb to the Cowboys who just paid Cooper big bucks and have Gallup?
Glad to see other reaction here similar to what I had. Makes no sense after they just paid Cooper and have 2 more years of Gallup
12 team PPR
QB: Murray, Lock, Stidham
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mixon, J. Taylor (R), Dobbins (R), Henderson, R. Anderson,
WR: T. Hill, Godwin, Kupp, Sutton, Diggs, Gallup, P. Williams, Isabella, JJAW, Miller
TE: Engram, Hockenson, I Thomas, Warring
K: Tucker
TD: PIT
Picks: 2021 1, 2021 2, 2022 1, 2022 2, 2022 3

12 team PPR
QB: Darnold, Bridgewater, Stidham (TX)
RB: Sanders, Hunt, Jackson, Ballage, Murray, Samuels, B Hill, Henderson (TX), Ozigbo (TX), Gaskin (TX)
WR: Diggs, Gallup, Kupp, Sutton, Lazard, Isabella (TX), P. Williams (TX), JJAW (TX), Doss (TX), S. Miller (TX)
TE: Rudolph, Graham, Sternberger (TX)
K:
DEF: LAR
Picks: 1.1, 1.3, 2.4, 5.7, 2021 1, 2021 1, 2021 2, 2021 2, 2021 4, 2021 5

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Ice » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:47 pm

Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:25 pm
nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 pm
ravn88 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm
Mel Kipers latest Mock Draft:

¹) Joe Borrow, Bengals
⁵) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
⁶) Justin Herbert, Chargers
¹³) Jerry Jeudy, 49'ers
¹⁵) Henry Ruggs III, Broncos
¹⁷) CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys
¹⁸) D'Andre Swift, Dolphins
¹⁹) Tee Higgins, Raiders
²¹) Justin Jefferson, Eagles
²²) Denzel Mims, Bills
²³) Jordan Love, Pats
³⁰) Chase Claypool, Packers

7 Wr in the first round. The draft cant come soon enough :-)
Lamb to the Cowboys who just paid Cooper big bucks and have Gallup?
Glad to see other reaction here similar to what I had. Makes no sense after they just paid Cooper and have 2 more years of Gallup
Makes no sense?

The NFL is quite different than fantasy. The concept of taking the BPA in the NFL has been proven for years.

No telling if they take a high end WR in the first round but it actually makes sense. That player would be locked up for 5 years. Cooper is tied in for 2 years.

Might want to look at more like this

Dallas just lost Randall Cobb, a very good slot WR, He just got a 3 year $27 Million dollar contract with 18.75 Million guaranteed.

The 17th player picked last year received a contract that was 4 years for 13.3 million guaranteed. ( Plus a 5th year team option)

While the rookie contacts will increase some it won't be close to Cobb's contract at pick 17.

If Dallas can get a potential game changer for the next 5 years for a very low cost especially at a needed position which a slot position is then it makes sense to do so especially if a WR is at the top of their draft board.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:16 pm

Ice wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:47 pm
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:25 pm
nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 pm


Lamb to the Cowboys who just paid Cooper big bucks and have Gallup?
Glad to see other reaction here similar to what I had. Makes no sense after they just paid Cooper and have 2 more years of Gallup
Makes no sense?

The NFL is quite different than fantasy. The concept of taking the BPA in the NFL has been proven for years.

No telling if they take a high end WR in the first round but it actually makes sense. That player would be locked up for 5 years. Cooper is tied in for 2 years.

Might want to look at more like this

Dallas just lost Randall Cobb, a very good slot WR, He just got a 3 year $27 Million dollar contract with 18.75 Million guaranteed.

The 17th player picked last year received a contract that was 4 years for 13.3 million guaranteed. ( Plus a 5th year team option)

While the rookie contacts will increase some it won't be close to Cobb's contract at pick 17.

If Dallas can get a potential game changer for the next 5 years for a very low cost especially at a needed position which a slot position is then it makes sense to do so especially if a WR is at the top of their draft board.

Great points. Pretty much how I see it. Like I said before, I doubt he’s there but it would definitely be hard to pass on him, if he is somehow available.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:23 pm

Ice wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:47 pm
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:25 pm
nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 pm


Lamb to the Cowboys who just paid Cooper big bucks and have Gallup?
Glad to see other reaction here similar to what I had. Makes no sense after they just paid Cooper and have 2 more years of Gallup
Makes no sense?

The NFL is quite different than fantasy. The concept of taking the BPA in the NFL has been proven for years.

No telling if they take a high end WR in the first round but it actually makes sense. That player would be locked up for 5 years. Cooper is tied in for 2 years.

Might want to look at more like this

Dallas just lost Randall Cobb, a very good slot WR, He just got a 3 year $27 Million dollar contract with 18.75 Million guaranteed.

The 17th player picked last year received a contract that was 4 years for 13.3 million guaranteed. ( Plus a 5th year team option)

While the rookie contacts will increase some it won't be close to Cobb's contract at pick 17.

If Dallas can get a potential game changer for the next 5 years for a very low cost especially at a needed position which a slot position is then it makes sense to do so especially if a WR is at the top of their draft board.
Hmmm not bad. I stand corrected.
12 team PPR
QB: Murray, Lock, Stidham
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mixon, J. Taylor (R), Dobbins (R), Henderson, R. Anderson,
WR: T. Hill, Godwin, Kupp, Sutton, Diggs, Gallup, P. Williams, Isabella, JJAW, Miller
TE: Engram, Hockenson, I Thomas, Warring
K: Tucker
TD: PIT
Picks: 2021 1, 2021 2, 2022 1, 2022 2, 2022 3

12 team PPR
QB: Darnold, Bridgewater, Stidham (TX)
RB: Sanders, Hunt, Jackson, Ballage, Murray, Samuels, B Hill, Henderson (TX), Ozigbo (TX), Gaskin (TX)
WR: Diggs, Gallup, Kupp, Sutton, Lazard, Isabella (TX), P. Williams (TX), JJAW (TX), Doss (TX), S. Miller (TX)
TE: Rudolph, Graham, Sternberger (TX)
K:
DEF: LAR
Picks: 1.1, 1.3, 2.4, 5.7, 2021 1, 2021 1, 2021 2, 2021 2, 2021 4, 2021 5


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