More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:23 pm

spotxc wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:55 pm says 4.54 for 40. hmm.. which one to believe
https://twitter.com/search?q=Tee%20Higg ... yped_query


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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Kmani6 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:45 pm

Dabo said He ran in the 4.50s. CBS sports published an article on Clemson proday and said both 40s were mid 4.50s. Vert 31 inch (not close to top 15). 10 3 broad outside of top 15 too. Probably why he didn’t test at the combine. Could be athletically closer to shenault although no one wants to admit it...
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QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

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RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
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2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:52 pm

Kmani6 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:45 pm Dabo said He ran in the 4.50s. CBS sports published an article on Clemson proday and said both 40s were mid 4.50s. Vert 31 inch (not close to top 15). 10 3 broad outside of top 15 too. Probably why he didn’t test at the combine. Could be athletically closer to shenault although no one wants to admit it...
Close to shenault when he needed surgery on his pubic bone*
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QB Jalen Hurts
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WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cameron Giles » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:56 pm

OhCruelestRanter wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:37 pm The point is that your interpretation of route running is meaningless. You have no idea how good you are at predicting NFL success based on your assessment of route running, so there's no point in factoring it into a decision on who to draft.

This has been explained to you by multiple people, multiple times. I'm starting to think that this concept is too sophisticated for you and we should just move on.
Are you even reading what I'm posting?

I never once said that my interpretation of route running surpasses any method of evaluation. Stop putting words in my mouth.

If you tell a poster on here that you believe Joe Burrow is an elite QB prospect because of A, B, C, and D, and that opinion can be supported logically and rationally, not only by your own interpretation, but the opinions of scouts, writers, or analysts who are much more legitimate in this space than you, then it's more than meaningless garbage coming from someone. I'm not over here making up some flaw that Higgins has a player. I have zero reason to do that.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Kmani6 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:59 pm

nathanq42 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:52 pm
Kmani6 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:45 pm Dabo said He ran in the 4.50s. CBS sports published an article on Clemson proday and said both 40s were mid 4.50s. Vert 31 inch (not close to top 15). 10 3 broad outside of top 15 too. Probably why he didn’t test at the combine. Could be athletically closer to shenault although no one wants to admit it...
Close to shenault when he needed surgery on his pubic bone*
Agreed. Shenault's times were a little slower (4.58), but obviously he was injured. Higgins has around 2 inches on him, but is also about 11 pounds lighter, interestingly.
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QB: Kyler Murray
RB: Saquon Barkley , Breece Hall, Swift, Dobbins, Gibson, CEH
WR: Devante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Jamarr Chase, DK Metcalf, Devonta Smith, Jerry Jeudy
TE: Travis Kelce

2023 Picks: 1.4, 1.8, 2.9, 3.2, 3.6, 3.8

Dynasty Team 2:

10 Man, Half PPR, Double Flex

QB: Tua
RB: Barkley , Mixon, Javonte, Jacobs, CEH
WR: AJB, Tyreek, Lamb, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Kittle

2022 Picks: 1.5, 1.6, 2.3
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:43 pm

Big discrepancy. Still pleased with a sub 4.6, but a sub 4.5 is quite a bit different. Down my rankings Higgins goes, a bit.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby alewilliam789 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:33 am

So im not sure how accurate Matt Miller is, but im hearing Pro Days will still take place, just with drastically less people
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby lanemitchell96 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:53 am

Does anyone have any info on Monmouth's pro day? Pete Guerriero in particular? Small school running back, but he was instructed to come out early as a junior, so may be a decent late round flier, especially in my 32 team league
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Orenthal Shames » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:01 pm

Interesting thread on ranks with height/weight comps

https://twitter.com/FFzinger/status/123 ... 67916?s=19
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby MattDeezy » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:08 pm

Orenthal Shames wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:01 pm Interesting thread on ranks with height/weight comps

https://twitter.com/FFzinger/status/123 ... 67916?s=19
Burrow’s ceiling is Rivers eh.....?
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QB: Love, AR, Cousins, Flacco
RB: CMC, Bijan, Ford, Mitchell, Pierce, Kendre, Tucker
WR: Deebo, Wilson, Olave, Puka, Flowers, Addison, Jeudy, Jamo, Burks
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:22 pm

Orenthal Shames wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:01 pm Interesting thread on ranks with height/weight comps

https://twitter.com/FFzinger/status/123 ... 67916?s=19
I like how all the high-low comps are someone really good, someone really bad, lmao.. Like, what even is the purpose then.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby honcho55 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:45 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:22 pm
Orenthal Shames wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:01 pm Interesting thread on ranks with height/weight comps

https://twitter.com/FFzinger/status/123 ... 67916?s=19
I like how all the high-low comps are someone really good, someone really bad, lmao.. Like, what even is the purpose then.
Precisely why I hate “ceiling/floor”

I mean, what was Tom Brady’s ceiling, when he was a rookie prospect? What was Jamarcus Russels floor? Couple that with what you say here, ceilings and floors being really high or really low? I don’t see the point.

Either giving no information by having too wide a spread, or you’re outright wrong, because another Tom Brady could obviously theoretically happen.
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start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT

QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Orenthal Shames » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:54 pm

MattDeezy wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:08 pm
Orenthal Shames wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:01 pm Interesting thread on ranks with height/weight comps

https://twitter.com/FFzinger/status/123 ... 67916?s=19
Burrow’s ceiling is Rivers eh.....?
I think the Bengals would sign up for River's career in a heartbeat.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby honcho55 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:18 pm

Orenthal Shames wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:54 pm
MattDeezy wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:08 pm
Orenthal Shames wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:01 pm Interesting thread on ranks with height/weight comps

https://twitter.com/FFzinger/status/123 ... 67916?s=19
Burrow’s ceiling is Rivers eh.....?
I think the Bengals would sign up for River's career in a heartbeat.
Oh, 100%

I can’t say for certain since its been a handful of years, but I’d guess overall I like Rivers a little better than Burrow as a prospect, for what that’s worth.
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
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start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT

QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Packerland » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:55 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:43 pm Big discrepancy. Still pleased with a sub 4.6, but a sub 4.5 is quite a bit different. Down my rankings Higgins goes, a bit.
Tee Higgins
I have the official numbers. 4.58 and 4.59 were his runs. 1.66 and 1.69 were his 10-yard splits.
10 Team .5 PPR 1 QB League

QB: Goff, Brady, Herbert, Tannehill
RB: CEH, JT, Akers, Dobbins, Mixon
WR: Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Lamb, Chark, Claypool, Pittman, Diontae, Anderson
TE: Andrews, Goedert

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2021: 4 1sts, 1 2nd
2022: 1 1st, 2 2nds


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