More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby alewilliam789 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:27 am

honcho55 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:37 am Man, this class continues to get hyped out of control.

Just read an article that Daniel Jeremiah grades out 27 WRs as round 1-3 prospects. Insane!
I agree. It lost most of its allure after the RBs decided to return. Good WR depth, but I wouldn’t say top tier talent this. There are players with potential for it tho (Lamb).
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:37 am

Herbert is a monster

Reagor is a thicc boi

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby cmizelle » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:24 am

bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:41 pm Just as a small snapshot look at Mizelle's latest ADP data for non-rookie WR data: http://mizelle.net/mfl/2020/

46 Anthony Miller
47 John Brown
48 Dede Westbrook
49 James Washington
50 Jamison Crowder

Anyone taking those guys over players like Higgins, Shenault, Ruggs, Reagor, Jefferson? I'm not.
To piggy back on this, here are the top 60 WRs based on startup ADP today. The Ryan McDowell tweet stated that 8 of the top 50 dynasty WRs were rookies (correct). I wanted to see who was just outside that list.

1 Thomas, Michael (NOS, WR, Age: 26)
2 Adams, Davante (GBP, WR, Age: 27)
3 Hopkins, DeAndre (HOU, WR, Age: 27)
4 Hill, Tyreek (KCC, WR, Age: 25)
5 Godwin, Chris (TBB, WR, Age: 23)
6 Evans, Mike (TBB, WR, Age: 26)
7 Smith-Schuster, JuJu (PIT, WR, Age: 23)
8 Cooper, Amari (DAL, WR, Age: 25)
9 Moore, D.J. (CAR, WR, Age: 22)
10 Beckham, Odell (CLE, WR, Age: 27)
11 Brown, A.J. (TEN, WR, Age: 22)
12 Sutton, Courtland (DEN, WR, Age: 24)
13 Golladay, Kenny (DET, WR, Age: 26)
14 Jones, Julio (ATL, WR, Age: 31)
15 Allen, Keenan (LAC, WR, Age: 27)
16 Kupp, Cooper (LAR, WR, Age: 26)
17 Diggs, Stefon (MIN, WR, Age: 26)
18 Metcalf, DK (SEA, WR, Age: 22)
19 Robinson, Allen (CHI, WR, Age: 26)
20 Jeudy, Jerry (FA, WR) ® (R1)
21 Lamb, CeeDee (FA, WR) ® (R2)
22 Samuel, Deebo (SFO, WR, Age: 24)
23 Chark, D.J. (JAC, WR, Age: 23)
24 Boyd, Tyler (CIN, WR, Age: 25)
25 Ridley, Calvin (ATL, WR, Age: 25)
26 Lockett, Tyler (SEA, WR, Age: 27)
27 McLaurin, Terry (WAS, WR, Age: 23)
28 Gallup, Michael (DAL, WR, Age: 23)
29 Reagor, Jalen (FA, WR) ® (R3)
30 Kirk, Christian (ARI, WR, Age: 23)
31 Woods, Robert (LAR, WR, Age: 27)
32 Thielen, Adam (MIN, WR, Age: 29)
33 Landry, Jarvis (CLE, WR, Age: 27)
34 Ruggs, Henry (FA, WR) ® (R4)
35 Brown, Marquise (BAL, WR, Age: 22)
36 Higgins, Tee (FA, WR) ® (R5)
37 Parker, DeVante (MIA, WR, Age: 27)
38 Harry, N'Keal (NEP, WR, Age: 22)
39 Williams, Mike (LAC, WR, Age: 25)
40 Shenault, Laviska (FA, WR) ® (R6)
41 Hilton, T.Y. (IND, WR, Age: 30)
42 Cooks, Brandin (LAR, WR, Age: 26)
43 Green, A.J. (CIN, WR, Age: 31)
44 Samuel, Curtis (CAR, WR, Age: 23)
45 Hardman, Mecole (KCC, WR, Age: 21)
46 Edwards, Bryan (FA, WR) ® (R7)
47 Slayton, Darius (NYG, WR, Age: 23)
48 Shepard, Sterling (NYG, WR, Age: 27)
49 Johnson, Diontae (PIT, WR, Age: 23)
50 Jefferson, Justin (FA, WR) ® (R8)
51 Williams, Preston (MIA, WR, Age: 22)
52 Anderson, Robby (NYJ, WR, Age: 26)
53 Fuller, Will (HOU, WR, Age: 25)
54 Miller, Anthony (CHI, WR, Age: 25)
55 Brown, John (BUF, WR, Age: 29)
56 Westbrook, Dede (JAC, WR, Age: 26)
57 Washington, James (PIT, WR, Age: 23)
58 Johnson, Tyler (FA, WR) ® (R9)
59 Crowder, Jamison (NYJ, WR, Age: 26)
60 Edelman, Julian (NEP, WR, Age: 33)

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:43 am

^^^ Albeit landings are unknown to factor into the equation I'm not totally against the above rankings. I might push around a few WR (AJ/TY) ahead of Shenault. Or Jeudy ahead of ARob. But for the most part the rankings seem just about where I'd probably the risk of taking the gamble vs known players.
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QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Needalife » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:55 am

Joe Burrow measures 9" hands. Oh boy... here we go...

Definitely throws well but hand size and ball security always seem to link up fairly consistently. Plus, if he pulls a protest about where he wants to play... this could get interesting. Still feels like he goes 1 to CIN, but it may not be quite as black and white over the next few months.

Side note: didn't realize Ruggs' hand size and wingspan were as impressive as they are.
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RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby killer_of_giants » Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:08 am

grown men losing their shite over a couple of inches...

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:10 am

Mahomes has 9 1/4 inch hands, Brady and Rodgers measured at 9.38 inches, it doesn't matter.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:11 am

bjd5211 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:10 am Mahomes has 9 1/4 inch hands, Brady and Rodgers measured at 9.38 inches, it doesn't matter.
Goff and Mayfield small as well, I used to put a lot of stock into hand size in the past but I don't really pay much attention to it now.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:18 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:11 am
bjd5211 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:10 am Mahomes has 9 1/4 inch hands, Brady and Rodgers measured at 9.38 inches, it doesn't matter.
Goff and Mayfield small as well, I used to put a lot of stock into hand size in the past but I don't really pay much attention to it now.
Some guys are secure with the ball, and some aren't. I'm sure hand size would help a little for some guys but they aren't bad because of their hands, just like there are plenty of QBs with less than ideal handsize who don't have ball security issues. This doesn't affect Burrow's value (real life or fantasy) even the slightest bit.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby petebusey » Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:48 pm

Needalife wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:55 am Joe Burrow measures 9" hands. Oh boy... here we go...

Definitely throws well but hand size and ball security always seem to link up fairly consistently. Plus, if he pulls a protest about where he wants to play... this could get interesting. Still feels like he goes 1 to CIN, but it may not be quite as black and white over the next few months.

Side note: didn't realize Ruggs' hand size and wingspan were as impressive as they are.
I thought the combine doesn't start until Wednesday.... where are you finding these results? Thanks
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:55 pm

petebusey wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:48 pm
Needalife wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:55 am Joe Burrow measures 9" hands. Oh boy... here we go...

Definitely throws well but hand size and ball security always seem to link up fairly consistently. Plus, if he pulls a protest about where he wants to play... this could get interesting. Still feels like he goes 1 to CIN, but it may not be quite as black and white over the next few months.

Side note: didn't realize Ruggs' hand size and wingspan were as impressive as they are.
I thought the combine doesn't start until Wednesday.... where are you finding these results? Thanks
It's staggered by position groups, and actually began yesterday for QB, RB and TE. Yesterday was check-in, registration, orientation and interviews for those positions and today they do pre-medical exams, more interviews and measurements. It's just on field workouts that don't begin until Wednesday.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:02 pm

Needalife wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:55 am Joe Burrow measures 9" hands. Oh boy... here we go...

Definitely throws well but hand size and ball security always seem to link up fairly consistently. Plus, if he pulls a protest about where he wants to play... this could get interesting. Still feels like he goes 1 to CIN, but it may not be quite as black and white over the next few months.

Side note: didn't realize Ruggs' hand size and wingspan were as impressive as they are.
He's not going to fall off the top pick because of 9 inch hands.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:21 pm

Jeudy came in at 193. Lamb 198. Both 6'1.

Higgins 216 at 6'3.

@CharlesRobinson is a great follow for his combine measurements thread
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:57 pm

Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:21 pm Jeudy came in at 193. Lamb 198. Both 6'1.

Higgins 216 at 6'3.

@CharlesRobinson is a great follow for his combine measurements thread
BMIs of 25.5 and 25.7 for Jeudy and Lamb, respectively. Interesting.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:02 pm

OhCruelestRanter wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:57 pm
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:21 pm Jeudy came in at 193. Lamb 198. Both 6'1.

Higgins 216 at 6'3.

@CharlesRobinson is a great follow for his combine measurements thread
BMIs of 25.5 and 25.7 for Jeudy and Lamb, respectively. Interesting.
Higgins with an 81" inch wingspan :shock:

On the other end of the spectrum, all out on KJ Hamler. Small with baby arms.
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16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06


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