I agree. It lost most of its allure after the RBs decided to return. Good WR depth, but I wouldn’t say top tier talent this. There are players with potential for it tho (Lamb).
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
To piggy back on this, here are the top 60 WRs based on startup ADP today. The Ryan McDowell tweet stated that 8 of the top 50 dynasty WRs were rookies (correct). I wanted to see who was just outside that list.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:41 pm Just as a small snapshot look at Mizelle's latest ADP data for non-rookie WR data: http://mizelle.net/mfl/2020/
46 Anthony Miller
47 John Brown
48 Dede Westbrook
49 James Washington
50 Jamison Crowder
Anyone taking those guys over players like Higgins, Shenault, Ruggs, Reagor, Jefferson? I'm not.
1 Thomas, Michael (NOS, WR, Age: 26)
2 Adams, Davante (GBP, WR, Age: 27)
3 Hopkins, DeAndre (HOU, WR, Age: 27)
4 Hill, Tyreek (KCC, WR, Age: 25)
5 Godwin, Chris (TBB, WR, Age: 23)
6 Evans, Mike (TBB, WR, Age: 26)
7 Smith-Schuster, JuJu (PIT, WR, Age: 23)
8 Cooper, Amari (DAL, WR, Age: 25)
9 Moore, D.J. (CAR, WR, Age: 22)
10 Beckham, Odell (CLE, WR, Age: 27)
11 Brown, A.J. (TEN, WR, Age: 22)
12 Sutton, Courtland (DEN, WR, Age: 24)
13 Golladay, Kenny (DET, WR, Age: 26)
14 Jones, Julio (ATL, WR, Age: 31)
15 Allen, Keenan (LAC, WR, Age: 27)
16 Kupp, Cooper (LAR, WR, Age: 26)
17 Diggs, Stefon (MIN, WR, Age: 26)
18 Metcalf, DK (SEA, WR, Age: 22)
19 Robinson, Allen (CHI, WR, Age: 26)
20 Jeudy, Jerry (FA, WR) ® (R1)
21 Lamb, CeeDee (FA, WR) ® (R2)
22 Samuel, Deebo (SFO, WR, Age: 24)
23 Chark, D.J. (JAC, WR, Age: 23)
24 Boyd, Tyler (CIN, WR, Age: 25)
25 Ridley, Calvin (ATL, WR, Age: 25)
26 Lockett, Tyler (SEA, WR, Age: 27)
27 McLaurin, Terry (WAS, WR, Age: 23)
28 Gallup, Michael (DAL, WR, Age: 23)
29 Reagor, Jalen (FA, WR) ® (R3)
30 Kirk, Christian (ARI, WR, Age: 23)
31 Woods, Robert (LAR, WR, Age: 27)
32 Thielen, Adam (MIN, WR, Age: 29)
33 Landry, Jarvis (CLE, WR, Age: 27)
34 Ruggs, Henry (FA, WR) ® (R4)
35 Brown, Marquise (BAL, WR, Age: 22)
36 Higgins, Tee (FA, WR) ® (R5)
37 Parker, DeVante (MIA, WR, Age: 27)
38 Harry, N'Keal (NEP, WR, Age: 22)
39 Williams, Mike (LAC, WR, Age: 25)
40 Shenault, Laviska (FA, WR) ® (R6)
41 Hilton, T.Y. (IND, WR, Age: 30)
42 Cooks, Brandin (LAR, WR, Age: 26)
43 Green, A.J. (CIN, WR, Age: 31)
44 Samuel, Curtis (CAR, WR, Age: 23)
45 Hardman, Mecole (KCC, WR, Age: 21)
46 Edwards, Bryan (FA, WR) ® (R7)
47 Slayton, Darius (NYG, WR, Age: 23)
48 Shepard, Sterling (NYG, WR, Age: 27)
49 Johnson, Diontae (PIT, WR, Age: 23)
50 Jefferson, Justin (FA, WR) ® (R8)
51 Williams, Preston (MIA, WR, Age: 22)
52 Anderson, Robby (NYJ, WR, Age: 26)
53 Fuller, Will (HOU, WR, Age: 25)
54 Miller, Anthony (CHI, WR, Age: 25)
55 Brown, John (BUF, WR, Age: 29)
56 Westbrook, Dede (JAC, WR, Age: 26)
57 Washington, James (PIT, WR, Age: 23)
58 Johnson, Tyler (FA, WR) ® (R9)
59 Crowder, Jamison (NYJ, WR, Age: 26)
60 Edelman, Julian (NEP, WR, Age: 33)
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
^^^ Albeit landings are unknown to factor into the equation I'm not totally against the above rankings. I might push around a few WR (AJ/TY) ahead of Shenault. Or Jeudy ahead of ARob. But for the most part the rankings seem just about where I'd probably the risk of taking the gamble vs known players.
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Joe Burrow measures 9" hands. Oh boy... here we go...
Definitely throws well but hand size and ball security always seem to link up fairly consistently. Plus, if he pulls a protest about where he wants to play... this could get interesting. Still feels like he goes 1 to CIN, but it may not be quite as black and white over the next few months.
Side note: didn't realize Ruggs' hand size and wingspan were as impressive as they are.
Definitely throws well but hand size and ball security always seem to link up fairly consistently. Plus, if he pulls a protest about where he wants to play... this could get interesting. Still feels like he goes 1 to CIN, but it may not be quite as black and white over the next few months.
Side note: didn't realize Ruggs' hand size and wingspan were as impressive as they are.
14 TM / Devy / SuperFlex / TEP
1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F
QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
2024 DEVY DEPLETED PICKS: 1.11, 1.13, 2.03, 2.05, 2.13, 3.01, 3.07, 3.10, 3.12, 4.03, 4.11, 4.15, 5.01, 5.02
1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F
QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
2024 DEVY DEPLETED PICKS: 1.11, 1.13, 2.03, 2.05, 2.13, 3.01, 3.07, 3.10, 3.12, 4.03, 4.11, 4.15, 5.01, 5.02
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
grown men losing their shite over a couple of inches...
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Mahomes has 9 1/4 inch hands, Brady and Rodgers measured at 9.38 inches, it doesn't matter.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Some guys are secure with the ball, and some aren't. I'm sure hand size would help a little for some guys but they aren't bad because of their hands, just like there are plenty of QBs with less than ideal handsize who don't have ball security issues. This doesn't affect Burrow's value (real life or fantasy) even the slightest bit.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:11 amGoff and Mayfield small as well, I used to put a lot of stock into hand size in the past but I don't really pay much attention to it now.
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
I thought the combine doesn't start until Wednesday.... where are you finding these results? ThanksNeedalife wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:55 am Joe Burrow measures 9" hands. Oh boy... here we go...
Definitely throws well but hand size and ball security always seem to link up fairly consistently. Plus, if he pulls a protest about where he wants to play... this could get interesting. Still feels like he goes 1 to CIN, but it may not be quite as black and white over the next few months.
Side note: didn't realize Ruggs' hand size and wingspan were as impressive as they are.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
It's staggered by position groups, and actually began yesterday for QB, RB and TE. Yesterday was check-in, registration, orientation and interviews for those positions and today they do pre-medical exams, more interviews and measurements. It's just on field workouts that don't begin until Wednesday.petebusey wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:48 pmI thought the combine doesn't start until Wednesday.... where are you finding these results? ThanksNeedalife wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:55 am Joe Burrow measures 9" hands. Oh boy... here we go...
Definitely throws well but hand size and ball security always seem to link up fairly consistently. Plus, if he pulls a protest about where he wants to play... this could get interesting. Still feels like he goes 1 to CIN, but it may not be quite as black and white over the next few months.
Side note: didn't realize Ruggs' hand size and wingspan were as impressive as they are.
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He's not going to fall off the top pick because of 9 inch hands.Needalife wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:55 am Joe Burrow measures 9" hands. Oh boy... here we go...
Definitely throws well but hand size and ball security always seem to link up fairly consistently. Plus, if he pulls a protest about where he wants to play... this could get interesting. Still feels like he goes 1 to CIN, but it may not be quite as black and white over the next few months.
Side note: didn't realize Ruggs' hand size and wingspan were as impressive as they are.
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Jeudy came in at 193. Lamb 198. Both 6'1.
Higgins 216 at 6'3.
@CharlesRobinson is a great follow for his combine measurements thread
Higgins 216 at 6'3.
@CharlesRobinson is a great follow for his combine measurements thread
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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BMIs of 25.5 and 25.7 for Jeudy and Lamb, respectively. Interesting.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:21 pm Jeudy came in at 193. Lamb 198. Both 6'1.
Higgins 216 at 6'3.
@CharlesRobinson is a great follow for his combine measurements thread
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Higgins with an 81" inch wingspanOhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:57 pmBMIs of 25.5 and 25.7 for Jeudy and Lamb, respectively. Interesting.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:21 pm Jeudy came in at 193. Lamb 198. Both 6'1.
Higgins 216 at 6'3.
@CharlesRobinson is a great follow for his combine measurements thread
On the other end of the spectrum, all out on KJ Hamler. Small with baby arms.
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16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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