More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

[Lord_Varys]

I can't think of a less useful way to evaluate a prospect than Dominator Rating.

I wouldn't say it's unuseful, the only thing I disagree with is using it as the sole determination of a WR and should be used within context and as just part of the evaluation as a whole.

If a stat is only useful in context then I'll just look at the context and disregard the stat.

[OhCruelestRanter]

I can't think of a less useful way to evaluate a prospect than Dominator Rating.

I wouldn't say it's unuseful, the only thing I disagree with is using it as the sole determination of a WR and should be used within context and as just part of the evaluation as a whole.

If a stat is only useful in context then I'll just look at the context and disregard the stat.

...every stat is only useful in context.

[Jigga94]

3 weeks until the combine

[Forza_Azzurri]

To be fair, none of this matters talk of size matters until we can get concrete numbers from the combine

Right. Many college estimates are way off. Tevin Coleman was supposed to be 6'3" or something coming out of college .

As for more criticisms of Jeudy, I saw LifesYourCup on twitter criticizing the way his knees bend.

That's good enough reason to never listen to a thing they say again.

I never realized that there was more than one way to bend a knee ... is Jeudy some sort of human-flamingo offspring?

[Lumps]

Right. Many college estimates are way off. Tevin Coleman was supposed to be 6'3" or something coming out of college .

As for more criticisms of Jeudy, I saw LifesYourCup on twitter criticizing the way his knees bend.

That's good enough reason to never listen to a thing they say again.

I never realized that there was more than one way to bend a knee ... is Jeudy some sort of human-flamingo offspring?

If you've watched his tape, and someone told you that was in fact true, you might not disagree with them. He does move strangely. I said this in the NCAA discussion board.

As for the other topic - I'm so tired of everything nowadays needing to be hot takes and crap bring so extremist black and white. Stats matter. Analytics matter. Perspective matters. Context matters. They are all viable and all need each other. Stop being absurdly analytics or bust. Or tape or bust.

Analytics are garbage if the input is garbage. Sometimes a player is trash because analytics say so, but tape does as well. Sometimes a player is trash by analytics but with context, you understand they in fact aren't.

This isn't hard.

[cantguardjake]

That's good enough reason to never listen to a thing they say again.

I never realized that there was more than one way to bend a knee ... is Jeudy some sort of human-flamingo offspring?

If you've watched his tape, and someone told you that was in fact true, you might not disagree with them. He does move strangely. I said this in the NCAA discussion board.

As for the other topic - I'm so tired of everything nowadays needing to be hot takes and crap bring so extremist black and white. Stats matter. Analytics matter. Perspective matters. Context matters. They are all viable and all need each other. Stop being absurdly analytics or bust. Or tape or bust.

Analytics are garbage if the input is garbage. Sometimes a player is trash because analytics say so, but tape does as well. Sometimes a player is trash by analytics but with context, you understand they in fact aren't.

This isn't hard.

I don’t think anyone’s doing that tbh.

[AussieMate]

Whats the deal with Cam Akers? I see so many mocks with him being the No.1/No.2 running back and I just can't fathom anyone taking him Before the big 3. He's meant to be athletically very good but I've heard bad marks against his vision which to me is just a big no-no (Trent Richardson).

Is he a riser that could sneak up or is it just more clickbait mocks.

At this point I won't be touching him early, the big 3 all seem to have plus vision and athleticism which is why they are being valued so highly, what does Akers do that is better than any of them?

[mild]

Whats the deal with Cam Akers? I see so many mocks with him being the No.1/No.2 running back and I just can't fathom anyone taking him Before the big 3. He's meant to be athletically very good but I've heard bad marks against his vision which to me is just a big no-no (Trent Richardson).

Is he a riser that could sneak up or is it just more clickbait mocks.

At this point I won't be touching him early, the big 3 all seem to have plus vision and athleticism which is why they are being valued so highly, what does Akers do that is better than any of them?

You'd have to point us to those mocks, friend. He shouldn't be going before any of the presumptive BIG THREE at this early stage.

A vote for Akers at this point is a vote for his pedigree (he was a 5 star recruit) and a vote against his situation (I believe the Florida line he was running behind was graded as 128th out of a possible 130 teams for adjusted line-play in 2019). He had good seasons, in particular his Junior year before the team truly cratered.

Athletically, he already tested very well at a Summer 2016 competition (sooo, age 17 or 18) run by Nike - a 4.41 40, and a 41 inch vertical jump. SPARQ score at the time was listed as 141 which is damn high.

Basically, he's a potential diamond in the rough - and may even turn out to be the most athletically gifted RB in this class. But anyone taking him before the other 3 at this point is probably overthinking it - or planting the flag early to be contrarian or ahead of a potential ADP climb. Expect him to rise if he tests well, and rise even further if his landing spot and draft capital is preferable. Until then, he should still be no higher than RB4.

[Kmani6]

Dobbins SPARQ was a 147. 43 inch vert which was official, and a 4.45 or something 40. I may be a little off, but I’m sure on the vert and know it’s one of the highest of all time at the RB position.

[Jigga94]

Whats the deal with Cam Akers? I see so many mocks with him being the No.1/No.2 running back and I just can't fathom anyone taking him Before the big 3. He's meant to be athletically very good but I've heard bad marks against his vision which to me is just a big no-no (Trent Richardson).

Is he a riser that could sneak up or is it just more clickbait mocks.

At this point I won't be touching him early, the big 3 all seem to have plus vision and athleticism which is why they are being valued so highly, what does Akers do that is better than any of them?

You'd have to point us to those mocks, friend. He shouldn't be going before any of the presumptive BIG THREE at this early stage.

A vote for Akers at this point is a vote for his pedigree (he was a 5 star recruit) and a vote against his situation (I believe the Florida line he was running behind was graded as 128th out of a possible 130 teams for adjusted line-play in 2019). He had good seasons, in particular his Junior year before the team truly cratered.

Athletically, he already tested very well at a Summer 2016 competition (sooo, age 17 or 18) run by Nike - a 4.41 40, and a 41 inch vertical jump. SPARQ score at the time was listed as 141 which is damn high.

Basically, he's a potential diamond in the rough - and may even turn out to be the most athletically gifted RB in this class. But anyone taking him before the other 3 at this point is probably overthinking it - or planting the flag early to be contrarian or ahead of a potential ADP climb. Expect him to rise if he tests well, and rise even further if his landing spot and draft capital is preferable. Until then, he should still be no higher than RB4.

So do you think the combine could boost Akers up into the top tier for a lot of people? I could see it happening if it's good enough, but I think he'd still be 4th for me

[nathanq42]

Whats the deal with Cam Akers? I see so many mocks with him being the No.1/No.2 running back and I just can't fathom anyone taking him Before the big 3. He's meant to be athletically very good but I've heard bad marks against his vision which to me is just a big no-no (Trent Richardson).

Is he a riser that could sneak up or is it just more clickbait mocks.

At this point I won't be touching him early, the big 3 all seem to have plus vision and athleticism which is why they are being valued so highly, what does Akers do that is better than any of them?

I think it is similar to DK level athlete hype. He is a great block of marble that a coach can be sculpted into a god. I know this isn't a glowing comp but he is basically jerrick McKinnon all over again. Wildcat QB with God level athleticism turned RB in college with plus receiving ability... Hopefully he pans out better

As for what it would take to jump into top 3 level he would have to kill the combine, and someone would have to be unspectacular. He is my #4 as well

[mild]

So do you think the combine could boost Akers up into the top tier for a lot of people? I could see it happening if it's good enough, but I think he'd still be 4th for me

Yo my man! Yeah, I think it could potentially get him past Taylor (who I feel is somehow becoming underrated right now) or Dobbins depending on the scouter's preference for metrics, but I don't think there's that high a chance of it. I feel like Swift is too locked-in to RB1 at this point thanks to his pass catching, it would take a truly pedestrian combine to drop him from semi-consensus RB1. Akers won't be moving ahead of Dobbins or Taylor for me personally - but could potentially do so once we have landing spots. That's the main way I see it happening, as I think all 4 of these backs are going to test well - just based on the eye test to this point.

One good trait of note for Akers is that he's pretty natural catching out of the backfield. There's a lot of good footage of him catching screens / dump offs etc and smoothly transitioning in one motion upfield. He also had to make a lot of plays happen after contact thanks to the truly abysmal nature of his line - PFF are probably going to love him...

I have the 1.05 and 1.08 (and 1.10) in my main league this year - if he's there for me at 1.08 I'll be pulling that trigger without a second thought.

[FantasyFreak]

Whats the deal with Cam Akers? I see so many mocks with him being the No.1/No.2 running back and I just can't fathom anyone taking him Before the big 3. He's meant to be athletically very good but I've heard bad marks against his vision which to me is just a big no-no (Trent Richardson).

Is he a riser that could sneak up or is it just more clickbait mocks.

At this point I won't be touching him early, the big 3 all seem to have plus vision and athleticism which is why they are being valued so highly, what does Akers do that is better than any of them?

I think it is similar to DK level athlete hype. He is a great block of marble that a coach can be sculpted into a god. I know this isn't a glowing comp but he is basically jerrick McKinnon all over again. Wildcat QB with God level athleticism turned RB in college with plus receiving ability... Hopefully he pans out better

As for what it would take to jump into top 3 level he would have to kill the combine, and someone would have to be unspectacular. He is my #4 as well

The thing is, JT is a sprinter, who should time very well in the 40, and Dobbins was a 99th percentile SPARQ athlete coming out of High School, so they should test well too.

[Johnny B. Goode]

I can't think of a less useful way to evaluate a prospect than Dominator Rating.

Completely wrong. Dominator Rating + Breakout Age thresholds can predict a WR busting (never becoming a top 24 wr) with 94% accuracy

[Dynasty DeLorean]

I can't think of a less useful way to evaluate a prospect than Dominator Rating.

Completely wrong. Dominator Rating + Breakout Age thresholds can predict a WR busting (never becoming a top 24 wr) with 94% accuracy

Only 94%? Doesn't sound very useful.