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More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
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12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
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QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
To be fair, none of this matters talk of size matters until we can get concrete numbers from the combine
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
The big things are his size/BMI and his dominator rating. There's not a high hit rate for guys around his BMI. Yes, there are outliers who have hit big, but overall the percentage is lower than a guy with a higher BMI. I'm not saying it's extremely predictive, because I haven't done enough research on that, but a few analysts I trust are concerned with that.
Also, I'm not very talented on the film side, so these evaluations are coming from some people I trust in the industry, but I've heard that he didn't make many contested grabs and didn't move around the formation (or play on the outside) very often. Like I said, I don't watch a lot of film, these are just conclusions I've taken from other people's evaluations, so you can take this part with a grain of salt if you'd like.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Right now I think I'm in very good position to land Jeudy at 1.05 in one of my leagues (12 team, 1QB, PPR), and I'm very happy with that. I own 1.01, 1.03 and 1.05 and RB is heavily valued in this league so I'll almost certainly be going RB with the first 2 picks, and I know 1.02 is almost certainly taking RB, which would guarantee me Lamb or Jeudy at 5 and the 1.04 owner is a big OU fan so good chance he takes Lamb leaving me with Jeudy. No matter what happens, I'm getting 3 of the current "Big 5" (Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Jeudy, Lamb) and that is undoubtedly a great haul no matter what combination of 3 you end up with.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
I can't think of a less useful way to evaluate a prospect than Dominator Rating.
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
ANOTHER WITCH!!Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:51 amI’ve been chastised for this before and might take some heat here as well but I too am a paper, rock, scissors guy. I have been for 30+ years and I don’t think I’m capable of changing at this point.
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
I wouldn't say it's unuseful, the only thing I disagree with is using it as the sole determination of a WR and should be used within context and as just part of the evaluation as a whole.Lord_Varys wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:13 am I can't think of a less useful way to evaluate a prospect than Dominator Rating.
The argument that can and has been made about Jeudy and his DR, is the fact that he not only is sharing the receiving workload with 3 other extremely talented and future NFL WRs, he's also been playing with one of the most talented and advanced QBs in college football history. At first glance you would say playing with a great QB is nothing but a good thing, and for the most part it is, but one of the things that comes with having a great QB is he's going to be a little less reliant on his star WR because he can make reads and throws other college QBs typically can't, so most QBs will just feed their #1 guy on the first read which obviously pumps up their usage and DR. Julio, Amari and Ridley were all playing in much different offenses and with far inferior QBs than Jeudy; during their time Bamas offense was basically run the ball and if you do throw it's going to Julio/Amari/Ridley whereas with Jeudy they've had Tua and been a QB and passing game centric offense but Jeudy is not the only elite option available like in past years.
Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Lumps wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:23 amANOTHER WITCH!!Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:51 amI’ve been chastised for this before and might take some heat here as well but I too am a paper, rock, scissors guy. I have been for 30+ years and I don’t think I’m capable of changing at this point.
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QB- R.Wilson, B. Mayfield
RB- D. Cook, Zeke, J. Jacobs, J. McKinnon, A. Collins, I. Smith, B. Hill, R. Armstead, M. Boone
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, C. Sutton, M. Brown, H. Ruggs, S. Miller
TE- G. Kittle, Enron, C. Herndon
'21 Picks- 1.12
QB- R.Wilson, B. Mayfield
RB- D. Cook, Zeke, J. Jacobs, J. McKinnon, A. Collins, I. Smith, B. Hill, R. Armstead, M. Boone
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, C. Sutton, M. Brown, H. Ruggs, S. Miller
TE- G. Kittle, Enron, C. Herndon
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Right. Many college estimates are way off. Tevin Coleman was supposed to be 6'3" or something coming out of college .
As for more criticisms of Jeudy, I saw LifesYourCup on twitter criticizing the way his knees bend.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
That's good enough reason to never listen to a thing they say again.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:59 amRight. Many college estimates are way off. Tevin Coleman was supposed to be 6'3" or something coming out of college .
As for more criticisms of Jeudy, I saw LifesYourCup on twitter criticizing the way his knees bend.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
Good write-up by a PFF writer about his top 12:
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/top- ... -rankings/
Will be interesting to see if any of the guys in range 7-12 can improve their stock at the NFL Combine and jump into the top tier of prospects.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/top- ... -rankings/
Will be interesting to see if any of the guys in range 7-12 can improve their stock at the NFL Combine and jump into the top tier of prospects.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."
That list seems more accurate list and less click-bait like some we've seen lately. Top 5 can go in almost any order, only real change for me is Reagor up to 6/7 and would move both Jefferson and Edwards ahead of Ruggs and Hamler.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:58 pm Good write-up by a PFF writer about his top 12:
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/top- ... -rankings/
Will be interesting to see if any of the guys in range 7-12 can improve their stock at the NFL Combine and jump into the top tier of prospects.
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