More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:06 pm

Tua received a Top 15 grade by the NFL Advisory Committee. Forfeiting a year of wages and risking another injury so that he can come out in the same class as Lawrence and Fields seems crazy.

Not to mention, and this is purely speculation, but you'd have to think his family wants him to move on the the NFL so his brother can have a chance to start, right?
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:08 pm

OhCruelestRanter wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:06 pm Tua received a Top 15 grade by the NFL Advisory Committee. Forfeiting a year of wages and risking another injury so that he can come out in the same class as Lawrence and Fields seems crazy.

Not to mention, and this is purely speculation, but you'd have to think his family wants him to move on the the NFL so his brother can have a chance to start, right?
Mac Jones is still ahead of him, and they have a big time QB coming in this year. I'm guessing he wouldn't be in the team if Tua wasn't his brother.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Hankybro21 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:19 pm

OhCruelestRanter wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:06 pm Tua received a Top 15 grade by the NFL Advisory Committee.
Do you have a source for this? No doubting, just want to read up
Team 1
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce

Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.02, 1.04, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early)

Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Ekeler, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Kamara, Tucker
T: Andrews, Granson
2024: 1.03, 3rd (late)

Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby djeternal2 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:26 pm

Hankybro21 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:19 pm
OhCruelestRanter wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:06 pm Tua received a Top 15 grade by the NFL Advisory Committee.
Do you have a source for this? No doubting, just want to read up
Looks like it's a quote from Saban.

https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2019 ... grade.html
10 tm ppr 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, TE, K, TDEF (Yr 6)
QB - Ryan, Wentz
RB - Gurley, A Jones, Cohen, Kerryon, Dam Williams, Duke, I Smith, Armstead, T Carson
WR - AJG, Watkins, ARob, A. Cooper, K Allen, M Williams, Godwin, Callaway, JJAW
TE - Gesicki, I Smith, Herndon, Eifert, Sternberger, Dissly

10 tm TE prem 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB (Yr 5)
QB - Mahomes, Mayfield, Wentz,
RB - Zeke, Chubb, Kerryon, Duke, Edmonds, B Hill
WR - Nuk, AJG, ARob, JJS, Samuel, MVS, T Smith, D Hamilton, Gallup, K Johnson
TE - Njoku, Eifert, Herndon, I Smith, I Thomas, Moreau
DL - Watt, K Clark, Q Williams
LB - D Jones, D Bush
DB - K Neal, Bell

DLF Early Birds - 16 tm SF (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB - A Rodgers, Darnold, Rosen, M Rudolph, Luck
RB - Damian Williams, J Howard, Duke, AP, Gore
WR - Julio, Golladay, Kirk, Stills, Manny Sanders, N Harry
TE - Jarwin, Gesicki, Boyle, Sprinkle

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby stoneghost28 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:42 pm

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The draft is the cheapest way to get a QB in SF. I think Burrow needs to be your 1.01. If you can trade up to 1.06 you’ll very likely land one of swift, Taylor, dobbins, or ETN as Jeudy and/or lamb will likely go before 1.06, in addition to you taking burrow at 1.01. Burrow at 1.01 and one of those top tier RB at 1.06 is very likely to happen..and if all four go then you get your pick of Jeudy or lamb.
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I've always found my super flex leagues to be pretty weird though. I've been playing in them since '16, and since then I've gone through a bunch of rookie drafts, I guess at this point, a grand total of 12 rookie drafts, and the QB's have gone in really disparate patterns.

For every league that goes according to expectation, there's another that doesn't.

In my duo league with my brother back in '18 we took Guice instead of mayfield at 1.02, and I begrudgingly agreed w/stealing Chubb at the 2.01 (10 team league) because we had the 2.05, but after Rosen had gone at 1.10, and we took Chubb, Mayfield-Darnold and Lamar Jackson all went off the board before our 2.05 and we didn't want Josh Allen). The following year Murray went 1.01, but Haskins 1.07, and Jones 2.02.

In my RSO leagues, the QB's have always seemed to drop:

I took Mayfield at 1.02 in '18, then saw Darnold fall into my lap at like 1.08, and Lamar Jackson fell into my lap at 1.11 or 1.12 I forget which.

In my other RSO league I took Rosen not realizing Mayfield was still on the board (long story, I was driving, so couldn't be thorough), and Mayfield fell all the way to like 2.08 in that league. I nabbed Josh Allen with the 3.08. I traded up for Kyler Murray the following year in that league when someone grabbed Josh Jacobs at 1.02 instead. In my other RSO league (the one w/Mayfield/Darnold/Jackson) I saw Haskins and Daniels fall all the way to my picks in the late second, so I took them back to back.

In my data force leagues, I saw Murray go 1.01, and Haskins 1.03, Jones went at 1.09.

I know Burrow will go early but I am super cuirous about when Tua will go depending upon medical reports.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby BucFanJKE » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:23 am

I have 1.01, 1.03 and 1.04 in my team 4 league. I have to say, I have no idea what I'm doing with these picks.

Right now I'm leaning Taylor, Swift/Dobbins, Jeudy.

But I see the entire top 6 (Taylor, Swift, Jeudy, Dobbins, Lamb, Etienne) as one big tier and that makes me dislike having to make the decisions for other teams lol.
Team 1-
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 2R, 2W, 1T, 3WRT)
QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, QJ, Bateman, MT, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Freiermuth, Kincaid, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger
1.07, 3.04, 4.07

Team 2-
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Kyler, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson, 4nette
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Aiyuk, London, JSN, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Shaheed
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich, Logan Thomas
2024: 2 1st (one top 3), 4th

Team 3- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Dak, Young
RB: Gibbs, Hall, J. Cook, Warren, Bigsby, K. Mitchell, Dobbins, D. Cook,
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Olave, Higgins, London, JSN, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Z. Jones, Hyatt
TE: Kittle, Kincaid, Woods, Likely
2024: 2 1st (one top 2), 3rd, 4th

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby alewilliam789 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:10 am

Tua declares! Hopefully Ruggs and Harris come next!
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:30 am

alewilliam789 wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:10 am Tua declares! Hopefully Ruggs and Harris come next!
He's a projected top 10 (probably 5) pick so there's no reason for him not to declare. I thought I read somewhere his first real official checkup will be after the draft though to know if he'll have a clean bill of health so it could be a gamble to whoever drafts him. If he doesn't get cleared he still has his degree to fall back on.

The question now (landing pending) arises where do you select him in a fantasy draft. There's so much talent with RB/WR this year so could he be had in the mid-2nd round (1QB)?
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby BucFanJKE » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:30 am
alewilliam789 wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:10 am Tua declares! Hopefully Ruggs and Harris come next!
He's a projected top 10 (probably 5) pick so there's no reason for him not to declare. I thought I read somewhere his first real official checkup will be after the draft though to know if he'll have a clean bill of health so it could be a gamble to whoever drafts him. If he doesn't get cleared he still has his degree to fall back on.

The question now (landing pending) arises where do you select him in a fantasy draft. There's so much talent with RB/WR this year so could he be had in the mid-2nd round (1QB)?
In a 1 QB he absolutely shouldn't go prior to the mid 2nd based on risk alone. I'm more interested to see what happens in SF leagues, where the reward might be worth the risk in the top half of a rookie draft. He might still be the 1.02 in SF leagues to some.
Team 1-
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 2R, 2W, 1T, 3WRT)
QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, QJ, Bateman, MT, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Freiermuth, Kincaid, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger
1.07, 3.04, 4.07

Team 2-
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Kyler, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson, 4nette
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Aiyuk, London, JSN, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Shaheed
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich, Logan Thomas
2024: 2 1st (one top 3), 4th

Team 3- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: J. Allen, Dak, Young
RB: Gibbs, Hall, J. Cook, Warren, Bigsby, K. Mitchell, Dobbins, D. Cook,
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Olave, Higgins, London, JSN, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Z. Jones, Hyatt
TE: Kittle, Kincaid, Woods, Likely
2024: 2 1st (one top 2), 3rd, 4th

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:55 am

Dude surely has a multi-million $$$ insurance policy to fall back on, not his degree. No matter, he will go top 5, if not top 3 in the NFL Draft.

And I might still pick him at 1.01 in one of my Superflex leagues.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby kmbryant09 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:29 am

Sounds like Ruggs is also declaring for the draft.

Devonte Smith announces he will return to Alabama. What a bummer, I thought he'd end up as a top4 receiver on my board. Love his combination of speed and route running.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Hankybro21 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:41 pm

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:55 am And I might still pick him at 1.01 in one of my Superflex leagues.
I’ve got 1.01-1.03 for team 2 and I’m considering taking both he and Burrow. The talent is just too good
Team 1
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce

Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.02, 1.04, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early)

Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Ekeler, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Kamara, Tucker
T: Andrews, Granson
2024: 1.03, 3rd (late)

Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:48 pm

Ruggs declares.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:18 pm

kmbryant09 wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:29 am Sounds like Ruggs is also declaring for the draft.

Devonte Smith announces he will return to Alabama. What a bummer, I thought he'd end up as a top4 receiver on my board. Love his combination of speed and route running.
Probably wasn't given a great draft grade. Maybe got a 3rd round grade and felt another year would increase his draft stock.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:42 pm

Wonder if Ruggs is going to break the 40YD record at the combine.


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