More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:35 am

Young is going to declare, this is just the typical line top draft prospects still in the playoff say.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby perkinsrooster » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:38 pm

MrUbuto wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:48 pm
Jonathon taylor just won the best runningbacks in college award. Only him McFadden and ricky William's have won 2 in a row. That's decent company. If he goes first round he's gotta be the 1.1
Wasn't DM a huge disappointment and Williams only slightly less so? Some of these posts are just screaming trade the hype to me.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Hankybro21 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:03 pm

Akers declared
Team 1 (10-3; 1st place; 1st in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, 26 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, Flex*1, TE*1, K*1, DEF*1

QB: Lamar|Goff|J. Allen
WR: Nuk|MT|Evans|Adams|Godwin|DJM|Anthony Miller|Mike Williams|JJAW
RB: MG III|Chubb|Guice|Royce|Mattison|Laird|Snell
TE: Hunter|OJH|Hollister
K: Zuerlein|Gay
Def: Ravens|Bills
IR: Dissly|Love|Preston

2018 Champs, 2019 Champs
2020: #'s 6, 10, 11, 15, 40, 50

Team 2 (5-8; rebuild; 7th place; 6th in points)
10 team dynasty, PPR, Superflex, 28 man roster, 3 man IR
QB*1, RB*2, WR*3, TE*1, Flex*2, SF*1, K*1, Team Defense *1, IDP*3

QB: Russell|Watson|Grier|Stidham|Rosen
WR: DJM|JuJu|Godwin|Sutton|Kirk|Parris|Deebo
Harmon|AB|Isabella
RB: Jacobs|Miles|DJ|Snell|Darwin
TE: Goedert|OJH|Hollister
K: Tucker
Def: Pitt
IDP: Donald|Collins Sr.|Wagner
IR: Hakeem Butler|Preston|Hock

2020 picks: #'s 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 13, 14
2021 picks: 1st x2, 3rd x1

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:35 pm

perkinsrooster wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:38 pm
MrUbuto wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:48 pm
Jonathon taylor just won the best runningbacks in college award. Only him McFadden and ricky William's have won 2 in a row. That's decent company. If he goes first round he's gotta be the 1.1
Wasn't DM a huge disappointment and Williams only slightly less so? Some of these posts are just screaming trade the hype to me.
Yeah, but Taylor isn't the same type of player. Taylor is an athletic, nuanced runner that runs in between the tackles exceptionally well, and has very good vision. He's has a much better chance of transitioning to the NFL than someone like McFadden. I never liked that pick, as a Raiders fan.

Taylor is a very safe prospect, IMO. He's a better prospect than Gordon, who also came out of Wisky.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:43 pm

Player A: 1,216 yards, 7 TD's, 6.2 YPA, 24 receptions, 216 yards, 1 TD

Player B: 1,290 Yards, 16 TD's 6.5 YPA, 50 Receptions, 399 yards, 1 TD


Both these players play in the same conference, and player A is valued significantly higher than Player B right now. In terms of current value, player B seems the better value, and I really like player A.
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Chubb, Cook, Carson, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, Sproles
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Agholor, Sanu, Higgins, D Robinson, T Taylor
Kittle, Olsen, McDonald, Ian Thomas, Clay

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:52 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:43 pm
Player A: 1,216 yards, 7 TD's, 6.2 YPA, 24 receptions, 216 yards, 1 TD

Player B: 1,290 Yards, 16 TD's 6.5 YPA, 50 Receptions, 399 yards, 1 TD


Both these players play in the same conference, and player A is valued significantly higher than Player B right now. In terms of current value, player B seems the better value, and I really like player A.
We'll have to see how they look at the combine. Swift has always come with more hype. Edwards-Helaire is one of those players who was on nobody's radar and has improved his stock noticeably. So, the dynasty community may be late still. I like the CJ Anderson comparison for Edwards-Helaire.

This is just another reason people should be loading up on 2nd round picks in this class:

Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Zack Moss
K.J. Hamler
Bryan Edwards
Brandon Aiyuk
Brycen Hopkins
Keshawn Vaughn
Tavien Feaster
Donovan Peoples-Jones
Chubba Hubbard
A.J. Dillon

I could keep going.

I'm not saying all of these players are really good NFL prospects, but the depth of intriguing talent is insane this year.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby PR0v3 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:07 pm

perkinsrooster wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:38 pm
MrUbuto wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:48 pm
Jonathon taylor just won the best runningbacks in college award. Only him McFadden and ricky William's have won 2 in a row. That's decent company. If he goes first round he's gotta be the 1.1
Wasn't DM a huge disappointment and Williams only slightly less so? Some of these posts are just screaming trade the hype to me.
McFadden was a good player. He was disappointing, but it was never really due to his on field ability. I’d be very happy if I knew I was taking a RB as good as McFadden.
12 Team .5 PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB 20 man rosters, 5 man taxi est. 2018
QB: Jimmy G
RB: Penny, Mattison
WR: K. Allen, Boyd, Hollywood, C. Samuel, Deebo, A. Miller, C. Davis, Washington, Ross, Pettis, Trequan
TE: Andrews, Gesicki, Everett, OJ
K: Legatron
Taxi: JJAW, Justice, Hurd
2020 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:48 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:52 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:43 pm
Player A: 1,216 yards, 7 TD's, 6.2 YPA, 24 receptions, 216 yards, 1 TD

Player B: 1,290 Yards, 16 TD's 6.5 YPA, 50 Receptions, 399 yards, 1 TD


Both these players play in the same conference, and player A is valued significantly higher than Player B right now. In terms of current value, player B seems the better value, and I really like player A.
We'll have to see how they look at the combine. Swift has always come with more hype. Edwards-Helaire is one of those players who was on nobody's radar and has improved his stock noticeably. So, the dynasty community may be late still. I like the CJ Anderson comparison for Edwards-Helaire.

This is just another reason people should be loading up on 2nd round picks in this class:

Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Zack Moss
K.J. Hamler
Bryan Edwards
Brandon Aiyuk
Brycen Hopkins
Keshawn Vaughn
Tavien Feaster
Donovan Peoples-Jones
Chubba Hubbard
A.J. Dillon

I could keep going.

I'm not saying all of these players are really good NFL prospects, but the depth of intriguing talent is insane this year.
In terms of running style, maybe a bit, or because of his height and weight, but he's more athletic, IMO, and much more useful in the passing game.

BTW, Isn't Hamler next year, more likely? I haven't heard of him declaring.

Combine will tell a lot. I don't think Etienne is a sub 4.4 guy, personally, and I have my doubts on Akers athleticism, too. Some guys will rise, others will fall, as is always the case. Tons of intriguing players, though, for sure.
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Wentz, Stafford. Driskel
Chubb, Cook, Carson, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, Sproles
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Agholor, Sanu, Higgins, D Robinson, T Taylor
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Chwf3rd » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:44 pm

Watched a bunch of RBs today and this is how I have them ranked:
1. Jonathan Taylor - awesome combination of power, explosion, and inside quickness.
2. D'Andre Swift - I loved his 2018 film and 2019 looked a lot worse to me. Elite lateral ability + good size + hands.
3. Cam Akers - don't see a big difference in talent between him, Taylor, and Swift. Every trait you want in a RB: explosion, size, contact balance, lateral ability, hands.
4. JK Dobbins - don't see any elite traits but very well-rounded back.
5. Travis Etienne - really linear player without a lot of wiggle but elite explosiveness and long speed
6. Zack Moss - contact balance + lateral ability + vision/patience. Doesnt look like an explosive athlete.
7. Eno Benjamin - incredibly violent runner with nice explosion and lateral ability.
8. Chubba Hubbard - one cut and go runner. Shot out of a cannon and good patience to wait for a crease to develop. Reminds me of Tevin Coleman.
9. Najee Harris - big and fast plus he can catch but don't see any RB trait that stands out.
10. Clyde Edwards-Helaire - future backup RB.

Overall: freaking amazing class. I have first round grades on Taylor, Swift, and Akers and second round grades on Dobbins, Etienne, Moss, Benjamin, and Hubbard. For comparison I would have had Josh Jacobs 4th and Montgomery 8th last year.
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, PRivers
RB: AKamara, JMixon, DHenderson, LMcCoy, RArmstead, TPollard
WR: ACooper, SDiggs, CSamuel, AJGreen, SWatkins, AMiller, DiJohnson, ZPascal
TE: MAndrews, ISmith, KWarring
Record: 4-6
Picks: 1, 1, 1

Team 2 - 12 team, PPR, superflex
QB: MStafford, SDarnold, DJones, BRoethlisberger, ALuck
RB: DCook, PLindsay, TColeman, DSingletary, JWhite, DFreeman, CHyde, MWalton, RMostert, MGaskin, QOllison
WR: DAdams, MEvans, SDiggs, DSamuel, SWatkins, MHardman, GAllison
TE: JDoyle, TBurton, DKnox, DFells, KWarring
Record: 6-4
Picks: 1, 2, 2

Team 3 - 12 team, PPR, 2QB, 2TE
QB: DWatson, CWentz, MStafford, DJones, ALuck
RB: NChubb, DMontgomery, SMichel, KDrake, CHyde, TJohnson, MWalton, KBallage, CThompson, JDMcKissic, QOllison
WR: THill, DAdams, SDiggs, DSamuel, PCampbell, DiJohnson, JCrowder, JWashington, ALazard, ATate
TE: GKittle, HHenry, TJHock, KWarring
Record: 8-2
Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:54 pm

Thanks for the insight Chwf3rd

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:31 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:54 pm
Thanks for the insight Chwf3rd
I agree. Thanks. Agree with a lot of takes, but not a fan of Akers. I have him well down on my list. I personally like Clyde a lot more than him, for example.
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Wentz, Stafford. Driskel
Chubb, Cook, Carson, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, Sproles
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Agholor, Sanu, Higgins, D Robinson, T Taylor
Kittle, Olsen, McDonald, Ian Thomas, Clay

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Chwf3rd » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:38 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:31 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:54 pm
Thanks for the insight Chwf3rd
I agree. Thanks. Agree with a lot of takes, but not a fan of Akers. I have him well down on my list. I personally like Clyde a lot more than him, for example.
What don’t you like about Akers?
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, PRivers
RB: AKamara, JMixon, DHenderson, LMcCoy, RArmstead, TPollard
WR: ACooper, SDiggs, CSamuel, AJGreen, SWatkins, AMiller, DiJohnson, ZPascal
TE: MAndrews, ISmith, KWarring
Record: 4-6
Picks: 1, 1, 1

Team 2 - 12 team, PPR, superflex
QB: MStafford, SDarnold, DJones, BRoethlisberger, ALuck
RB: DCook, PLindsay, TColeman, DSingletary, JWhite, DFreeman, CHyde, MWalton, RMostert, MGaskin, QOllison
WR: DAdams, MEvans, SDiggs, DSamuel, SWatkins, MHardman, GAllison
TE: JDoyle, TBurton, DKnox, DFells, KWarring
Record: 6-4
Picks: 1, 2, 2

Team 3 - 12 team, PPR, 2QB, 2TE
QB: DWatson, CWentz, MStafford, DJones, ALuck
RB: NChubb, DMontgomery, SMichel, KDrake, CHyde, TJohnson, MWalton, KBallage, CThompson, JDMcKissic, QOllison
WR: THill, DAdams, SDiggs, DSamuel, PCampbell, DiJohnson, JCrowder, JWashington, ALazard, ATate
TE: GKittle, HHenry, TJHock, KWarring
Record: 8-2
Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:42 pm

Chwf3rd wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:38 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:31 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:54 pm
Thanks for the insight Chwf3rd
I agree. Thanks. Agree with a lot of takes, but not a fan of Akers. I have him well down on my list. I personally like Clyde a lot more than him, for example.
What don’t you like about Akers?
Sorry. I just meant I have him further down my list, rather than right up with the top few backs. I meant to say not a fan of Akers that high. I have him well below them. He's a solid back with hands, I just don't think he's an elite prospect. I like Clyde more than most right now, it seems. I'd probably have Akers somewhere below Dobbins, on your list, either right below, or just below Etienne. Ahead of Moss. I would also have Kylin Hill in there.
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Wentz, Stafford. Driskel
Chubb, Cook, Carson, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, Sproles
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Agholor, Sanu, Higgins, D Robinson, T Taylor
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Lord_Varys » Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:02 pm

Chwf3rd wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:44 pm
Watched a bunch of RBs today and this is how I have them ranked:
1. Jonathan Taylor - awesome combination of power, explosion, and inside quickness.
2. D'Andre Swift - I loved his 2018 film and 2019 looked a lot worse to me. Elite lateral ability + good size + hands.
3. Cam Akers - don't see a big difference in talent between him, Taylor, and Swift. Every trait you want in a RB: explosion, size, contact balance, lateral ability, hands.
4. JK Dobbins - don't see any elite traits but very well-rounded back.
5. Travis Etienne - really linear player without a lot of wiggle but elite explosiveness and long speed
6. Zack Moss - contact balance + lateral ability + vision/patience. Doesnt look like an explosive athlete.
7. Eno Benjamin - incredibly violent runner with nice explosion and lateral ability.
8. Chubba Hubbard - one cut and go runner. Shot out of a cannon and good patience to wait for a crease to develop. Reminds me of Tevin Coleman.
9. Najee Harris - big and fast plus he can catch but don't see any RB trait that stands out.
10. Clyde Edwards-Helaire - future backup RB.

Overall: freaking amazing class. I have first round grades on Taylor, Swift, and Akers and second round grades on Dobbins, Etienne, Moss, Benjamin, and Hubbard. For comparison I would have had Josh Jacobs 4th and Montgomery 8th last year.
Helluva list. Love your breakdowns. Can't say I disagree with anything.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby lanemitchell96 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:38 am

Update on the underclassmen eligible for the 2020 NFL Draft as of 12/16/19 at 9:00am:

NOTABLE UNDERCLASSMEN DECLARED:
QB Jordan Love (RS-Junior/Utah State)
RB Cam Akers (Junior/Florida State)
RB Eno Benjamin (Junior/Arizona State)
RB AJ Dillon (Junior/Boston College)
RB Kylin Hill (Junior/Mississippi State)
RB Anthony McFarland Jr (RS-Sophomore/Maryland)
WR Jalen Reagor (Junior/TCU)
WR Laviska Shenault (Junior/Colorado)
WR Isaiah Hodgins (Junior/Oregon State)
WR Gabriel Davis (Junior/UCF)
WR/QB Lynn Bowden Jr (Junior/Kentucky)
TE Albert Okwuegbunam (RS-Junior/Missouri)
TE Hunter Bryant (RS-Junior/Washington)

NOTABLE UNDERCLASSMEN RETURNING TO SCHOOL:
WR Reggie Roberson Jr (Junior/SMU)
TE Cole Kmet (Junior/Notre Dame)

OTHER NOTABLE ELIGIBLE UNDERCLASSMEN WITH NO ANNOUNCEMENT:
QB Tua Tagovailoa (Junior/Alabama) - Leaning towards declaring
QB Jacob Eason (RS-Junior/Washington)
QB Sam Ehlinger (Junior/Texas)
QB Jamie Newman (RS-Junior/Wake Forest)
QB Shane Buechele (RS-Junior/SMU)
QB Jake Fromm (Junior/Georgia)
RB Jonathan Taylor (Junior/Wisconsin)
RB Chuba Hubbard (RS-Sophomore/Oklahoma State)
RB JK Dobbins (Junior/Ohio State)
RB Travis Etienne (Junior/Clemson)
RB D'Andre Swift (Junior/Georgia)
RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire (Junior/LSU)
RB Najee Harris (Junior/Alabama)
RB CJ Verdell (RS-Sophomore/Oregon)
RB Bryant Koback (RS-Sophomore/Toledo)
RB Charles Williams (RS-Junior/UNLV)
RB Josh Johnson (RS-Junior/UL Monroe)
RB Darrynton Evans (RS-Junior/Appalachian State)
RB/WR Demetric Felton (RS-Junior/UCLA)
RB Trey Sermon (Junior/Oklahoma)
WR Jerry Jeudy (Junior/Alabama)
WR CeeDee Lamb (Junior/Oklahoma) - Leaning towards delcaring
WR Justin Jefferson (Junior/LSU)
WR DeVonta Smith (Junior/Alabama) - Leaning towards returning
WR Tee Higgins (Junior/Clemson)
WR Henry Ruggs III (Junior/Alabama)
WR Tamorrion Terry (RS-Sophomore/Florida State)
WR Warren Jackson (Junior/Colorado State)
WR Tylan Wallace (Junior/Oklahoma State)
WR KJ Hamler (RS-Sophomore/Penn State)
TE Quintin Morris (Junior/Bowling Green)
TE Colby Parkinson (Junior/Stanford)


NOTABLE UPPERCLASSMEN ENTERING DRAFT:
QB Joe Burrow (LSU)
QB Jalen Hurts (Oklahoma)
QB Justin Herbert (Oregon)
QB Anthony Gordon (Washington State)
RB Zack Moss (Utah)
RB LeVante Bellamy (Western Michigan)
RB Ke'Shawn Vaughn (Vanderbilt)
RB Rodney Smith (Minnesota)
RB Jonathan Ward (Central Michigan)
RB Xavier Jones (SMU)
WR Antonio Gandy-Golden (Liberty)
WR Tyler Johnson (Minnesota)
WR Devin Duvernay (Texas)
WR Michael Pittman Jr (USC)
WR Brandon Aiyuk (Arizona State)
WR James Proche (SMU)
WR Omar Bayless (Arkansas State)
WR Bryan Edwards (South Carolina)
WR Denzel Mims (Baylor)
WR John Hightower (Boise State)
TE Harrison Bryant (Florida Atlantic)
TE Brycen Hopkins (Purdue)
TE Giovanni Ricci (Western Michigan)
TE Jacob Breeland (Oregon)
TE Jared Pinkney (Vanderbilt)


If there's anyone I'm missing that you'd like to add or anyone to update the status on, feel free to do so!
APEX PREDATORS:
PPR SF
LINEUP: QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2FLEX, SF
QB: Mahomes, Kyler, Baker, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Cook, MSanders, Ekeler, Edmonds, Boone, Pollard, McKinnon, Love
WR: Godwin, DJM, Sutton, Chark, Gallup, Boyd, CSamuel, DRobinson, Hurd, Parris, Preston, Isabella
TE: Engram, Higbee, Goedert, Jonnu
2020 PICKS: 1.01, 1.02, 1.06, 2.01, 2.06
2021 PICKS: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 5th


LA CHARGERS:
2019 AFC RUNNER UP
32 TEAM SINGLE COPY, SALARY CAP, 53 MAN ROSTERS, TIERED PPR, TIERED IDP, RETURN YDS
LINEUP: QB, RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX, 2DE, DT, 3LB, 2CB, 2S, K, P

QB: Kyler, Hundley
RB: Ekeler, Royce, Blasingame, Ricard, Cunningham, Holyfield, Sproles
WR: Tre'Quan, Patterson, CLacy, JGordon, Isabella, DSpencer, TDavis, DMitchell, Parris
TE: Hollister, Moreau, LThomas, RSJ
DT: Donald, DJJones, AlWoods, TCrawford
DE: JoshAllen, Ferguson, Wolfe, Banogu, Jelks
LB: Leonard, Mercilus, Kwiatkoski, Klein, LCarter, LongJr
CB: Ryan, MDavis, KeFuller, Elliott, SJones
S: Willis, WHarris, Watkins, Addae, Epps, KJoseph
K: Forbath, Zeurlein, Castillo
P: Berry
2020 PICKS: 1.29, 2.20, 5.29


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