More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

[FantasyFreak]

It’s not like he’s losing share to a bunch of scrubs ... Ruggs is likely a first rounder, Smith is probably a Top 3 round guy, and who knows with Waddle ... he could be a first round pick in 2021. Jeudy is often comped with Julio, but there was no where near the amount of talent at WR in Julio’s final year.

Ruggs will prolly be a second round pick and I won't be surprised if Smith is picked ahead of him. If Al Davis was still around Ruggs would be a top 5 pick. Smith is a more complete WR compared to Ruggs imo. And yeah as Freak stated the Julio comp is terrible for Jeudy and I like him a ton but he's the #2 WR in this class imo.

I hope you guys are right, because best case scenario I end up with 1.03 ... I’ll be doing backflips if I get Jeudy at 1.03.

I think that there is a good chance 1.03 lands Jeudy in most leagues, with the RB's available. There are multiple bell cow type players available, and if a RB goes to the Chiefs in the first 3 rounds not named Swift or Taylor, I could see that person jumping into the mix of the top 3. Dobbins going off against Michigan today. The RB class has 3 legit Bell Cow backs with Swift, Taylor and Dobbins, and we all know how rookie drafts usually go when that is the case. Landing spots and draft capital will all play a role, of course.

[Forza_Azzurri]

Ruggs will prolly be a second round pick and I won't be surprised if Smith is picked ahead of him. If Al Davis was still around Ruggs would be a top 5 pick. Smith is a more complete WR compared to Ruggs imo. And yeah as Freak stated the Julio comp is terrible for Jeudy and I like him a ton but he's the #2 WR in this class imo.

I hope you guys are right, because best case scenario I end up with 1.03 ... I’ll be doing backflips if I get Jeudy at 1.03.

I think that there is a good chance 1.03 lands Jeudy in most leagues, with the RB's available. There are multiple bell cow type players available, and if a RB goes to the Chiefs in the first 3 rounds not named Swift or Taylor, I could see that person jumping into the mix of the top 3. Dobbins going off against Michigan today. The RB class has 3 legit Bell Cow backs with Swift, Taylor and Dobbins, and we all know how rookie drafts usually go when that is the case. Landing spots and draft capital will all play a role, of course.

I agree x1000 which is why I think it’s funny people get their panties into such a knot trying to win arguments on who’s the 1.01 this early.

[Shcritters]

The hype has been ridiculous and many players won’t hit, but if all the players who could come out actually do then this could be the deepest draft I can remember. The talent in the mid 2nd will likely be worth a late 1st in most rookie drafts.

[bjd5211]

The hype has been ridiculous and many players won’t hit, but if all the players who could come out actually do then this could be the deepest draft I can remember. The talent in the mid 2nd will likely be worth a late 1st in most rookie drafts.

Ya you could make a solid 1st round out of just the RBs or just the WRs in this class, combine the two and there will be a lot of talent well into the 2nd round. And that's before factoring in the strong QB class and a TE class that isn't amazing but is better than it's currently being looked at as.

[Hottoddies]

Josh Jacobs had horrible usage as well ... it’s just the way it is with Alabama & their ridiculous depth.

Yeah, but you’ve had multiple lower usage RB prospects like Kamara, Jacobs, Arian Foster, CJ Anderson, and I’m sure there are others that have become top RBs.
With WRs it’s much much more unlikely you become an elite WR1 if you don’t have above average market share numbers over your career and in your last year.
He’s going to be drafted as if he’s the next elite WR1 prospect.

I feel similarly about Justyn Ross on Clemson, he’s a year away but he is having a worse year than last year. The thing is these dominant teams are ahead so big by halftime they get shut down. I think usage during the playoffs will be very telling.

I think this just illustrates how meaningless "market share" is as a standalone indicator when taken out of context.

[djeternal2]

The hype has been ridiculous and many players won’t hit, but if all the players who could come out actually do then this could be the deepest draft I can remember. The talent in the mid 2nd will likely be worth a late 1st in most rookie drafts.

Ya you could make a solid 1st round out of just the RBs or just the WRs in this class, combine the two and there will be a lot of talent well into the 2nd round. And that's before factoring in the strong QB class and a TE class that isn't amazing but is better than it's currently being looked at as.

I agree with you on the RBs & WRs but the QBs & TEs are weak at best. Even if Tua hd not gotten injured the QBs would've been top heavy with 2. Fromm will most likely go back to school, Herbert is a mid tier prospect at best, and Fields will be a prospect that needs to go to a team that will commit to developing a scheme around his skill set similar to Lamar Jackson. As for TE the best of the bunch just recently retired due to concussion issues. As for the rest of the bunch maybe one develops but which one? Your guess is as good as mine as there are no standout superstars like Hock or Fant this year.

[bjd5211]

The hype has been ridiculous and many players won’t hit, but if all the players who could come out actually do then this could be the deepest draft I can remember. The talent in the mid 2nd will likely be worth a late 1st in most rookie drafts.

Ya you could make a solid 1st round out of just the RBs or just the WRs in this class, combine the two and there will be a lot of talent well into the 2nd round. And that's before factoring in the strong QB class and a TE class that isn't amazing but is better than it's currently being looked at as.

I agree with you on the RBs & WRs but the QBs & TEs are weak at best. Even if Tua hd not gotten injured the QBs would've been top heavy with 2. Fromm will most likely go back to school, Herbert is a mid tier prospect at best, and Fields will be a prospect that needs to go to a team that will commit to developing a scheme around his skill set similar to Lamar Jackson. As for TE the best of the bunch just recently retired due to concussion issues. As for the rest of the bunch maybe one develops but which one? Your guess is as good as mine as there are no standout superstars like Hock or Fant this year.

Fields is a true Sophomore and isn't eligible this year.

You left off Burrow who is probably the best QB in the class. Burrow/Tua/Herbert is better than the average QB class, plus there are other solid prospects.

This years TE class won't be 2017/2019 good but probably will be similar to 2016/2018 which featured Henry/Hooper and Andrews/Goedert respectively. The top 2 prospects right now are probably Hunter Bryant, Washington and Jared Pinkney, Vanderbilt, plus other solid prospects.

[bjd5211]

Eno Benjamin having a strong game for ASU.

[alewilliam789]

Josh Jacobs had horrible usage as well ... it’s just the way it is with Alabama & their ridiculous depth.

Yeah, but you’ve had multiple lower usage RB prospects like Kamara, Jacobs, Arian Foster, CJ Anderson, and I’m sure there are others that have become top RBs.
With WRs it’s much much more unlikely you become an elite WR1 if you don’t have above average market share numbers over your career and in your last year.
He’s going to be drafted as if he’s the next elite WR1 prospect.

I feel similarly about Justyn Ross on Clemson, he’s a year away but he is having a worse year than last year. The thing is these dominant teams are ahead so big by halftime they get shut down. I think usage during the playoffs will be very telling.

I mean Justyn Ross is still on track to break out early (20% DR) and he’s most likely got next year without Tee Higgins and a more mature Trevor Lawrence so ultimately that will be his year of determination. Anyways I’m pretty sure he’s a young sophomore so he’s got more time from an analytical perspective.

[alewilliam789]

So '21 is shaping up to be another potentially strong WR class

Justyn Ross
Rondale Moore
Jaylen Waddle
Jamar Chase

All look like they could be going high, still early though.

Yeah early on looks quite good. Will be flip because I haven’t seen a ton of top RB prospects for 2021

[Friction]

Add Bateman from MN to that list for 2021, too. I am guessing he leaves after his Jr. Year with a year without Tyler Johnson. I like his game, been great this year.

[djeternal2]

Ya you could make a solid 1st round out of just the RBs or just the WRs in this class, combine the two and there will be a lot of talent well into the 2nd round. And that's before factoring in the strong QB class and a TE class that isn't amazing but is better than it's currently being looked at as.

I agree with you on the RBs & WRs but the QBs & TEs are weak at best. Even if Tua had not gotten injured the QBs would've been top heavy with 2. Fromm will most likely go back to school, Herbert is a mid tier prospect at best, and Fields will be a prospect that needs to go to a team that will commit to developing a scheme around his skill set similar to Lamar Jackson. As for TE the best of the bunch just recently retired due to concussion issues. As for the rest of the bunch maybe one develops but which one? Your guess is as good as mine as there are no standout superstars like Hock or Fant this year.

Fields is a true Sophomore and isn't eligible this year.

You left off Burrow who is probably the best QB in the class. Burrow/Tua/Herbert is better than the average QB class, plus there are other solid prospects.

This years TE class won't be 2017/2019 good but probably will be similar to 2016/2018 which featured Henry/Hooper and Andrews/Goedert respectively. The top 2 prospects right now are probably Hunter Bryant, Washington and Jared Pinkney, Vanderbilt, plus other solid prospects.

I didn't specifically name Burrow but I thought my comment in bold was understood that the top 2 were Tua & Burrow. Also didn't realize Fields isn't eligible for 20 which weakens the QB class even more.

As for the TEs none of the guys in 20 are even close as prospects to the guys you mentioned (Hooper, Henry, etc). Maybe one will develop 3 years from now but I doubt any TEs get taken in the first 2 rounds of rookie drafts this year.

[Lumps]

I agree with you on the RBs & WRs but the QBs & TEs are weak at best. Even if Tua had not gotten injured the QBs would've been top heavy with 2. Fromm will most likely go back to school, Herbert is a mid tier prospect at best, and Fields will be a prospect that needs to go to a team that will commit to developing a scheme around his skill set similar to Lamar Jackson. As for TE the best of the bunch just recently retired due to concussion issues. As for the rest of the bunch maybe one develops but which one? Your guess is as good as mine as there are no standout superstars like Hock or Fant this year.

Fields is a true Sophomore and isn't eligible this year.

You left off Burrow who is probably the best QB in the class. Burrow/Tua/Herbert is better than the average QB class, plus there are other solid prospects.

This years TE class won't be 2017/2019 good but probably will be similar to 2016/2018 which featured Henry/Hooper and Andrews/Goedert respectively. The top 2 prospects right now are probably Hunter Bryant, Washington and Jared Pinkney, Vanderbilt, plus other solid prospects.

I didn't specifically name Burrow but I thought my comment in bold was understood that the top 2 were Tua & Burrow. Also didn't realize Fields isn't eligible for 20 which weakens the QB class even more.

As for the TEs none of the guys in 20 are even close as prospects to the guys you mentioned (Hooper, Henry, etc). Maybe one will develop 3 years from now but I doubt any TEs get taken in the first 2 rounds of rookie drafts this year.

I understood what you meant. Swap Fields for Hurts (which is also what I thought you meant) and it's the same statement... just to a lesser degree.

[djeternal2]

Fields is a true Sophomore and isn't eligible this year.

You left off Burrow who is probably the best QB in the class. Burrow/Tua/Herbert is better than the average QB class, plus there are other solid prospects.

This years TE class won't be 2017/2019 good but probably will be similar to 2016/2018 which featured Henry/Hooper and Andrews/Goedert respectively. The top 2 prospects right now are probably Hunter Bryant, Washington and Jared Pinkney, Vanderbilt, plus other solid prospects.

I didn't specifically name Burrow but I thought my comment in bold was understood that the top 2 were Tua & Burrow. Also didn't realize Fields isn't eligible for 20 which weakens the QB class even more.

As for the TEs none of the guys in 20 are even close as prospects to the guys you mentioned (Hooper, Henry, etc). Maybe one will develop 3 years from now but I doubt any TEs get taken in the first 2 rounds of rookie drafts this year.

I understood what you meant. Swap Fields for Hurts (which is also what I thought you meant) and it's the same statement... just to a lesser degree.

Yep I knew I was missing someone when it was pointed out Fields isn't elig this year. Hurts was the one. Thanks.

[DynoScout]

Bryan Edwards has been on the shelf since early November and I sense some "out of sight/out of mind" happening with him right now. I like him, and he might not be a top 24 rookie pick right now in a fair percentage of leagues.

Any one else tuned in on Edwards? I assume we won't see him until the Senior Bowl at this point. (I assume he's been invited and health permitting will attend.)