My first big-boy startup is nigh - tank the first year??

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Re: My first big-boy startup is nigh - tank the first year??

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:50 am

bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:25 am
Why the Zero LB strategy? Aren't LB typically the most valuable IDP players?
Nope, actually the opposite.

They can score highly, but are hugely replaceable. LBs in real life get benched and cut and traded and promoted constantly. Tons of turnover. Same with safeties. And because there are so many getting big snaps every week (roughly 60+), it’s usually not a big drop off to go from the LB5 to the LB25.

It’s basically like kickers, except there are twice as many that are startable every week.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Haskins, Dalton, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, D Washington, M Davis, Laird, Scarlett, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, Wims, Dez, Hardy
KITTLE, Waller, Herndon, Sternberger, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller, J Williams
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
KITTLE/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter and then a bunch of stashes for IDP

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Re: My first big-boy startup is nigh - tank the first year??

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:26 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:03 am
SO - after exactly one month, the 53-round startup draft for this 32-team DOUBLE-copy league is winding to a close (I made my last pick yesterday - like 30 picks to go now).

Here’s my roster (will be able to stash some more fliers here in a couple days, once FA opens up for us post-draft):

QB: Darnold, Haskins, Rosen (start 1)

RB: Josh Jacobs, Damien Harris, A. Mattison, Alex Collins (start 1-4)

WR: Keenan Allen, Corey Davis, Marquise Brown, Mecole Hardman, DK Metcalf, Josh Reynolds, Marcell Ateman (start 3-6)

TE: Evan Engram, OJ Howard, Gerald Everett, Drew Sample, Dalton Schultz (start 1-3)

AS FOR DRAFT CAPITAL - Here’s where I really focused.

In the 2020 class: I now have 7 Firsts, 10 seconds, 5 thirds, 7 fourths, & 5 fifths.

In the 2021 class: 2 Firsts, 5 seconds, 3 thirds, 2 fourths, & 2 fifths.

Handful of 6ths & 7ths in both 20 & 21 rookie classes.

And keep in mind, in a league that starts 11 IDP with complex & balanced defensive scoring, tons of offensive players fall. In a similar league to this, guys like Dante Pettis & Cooper Kupp go late 3rd or even mid 4th. Terry McLaurin went in the 6th in a similar league. Noah Fant fell to the mid 2nd in 2 leagues with a similar format. Even in the 7th round, stash guys like Dawson Knox/Drew Sample/Bruce Anderson/3rd tier IDP rookies can readily be found.
Ok, so an update if anyone cares:

My offensive roster can be seen as team B in my sig. Defense hasn't changed, a ton, except I added a couple solid young guys at LB and S, and added Ngakoue on the D-line. Traded away Davenport and Takk, but otherwise haven't dealt my core IDP guys.

I now have 8 Firsts, 9 Seconds, 7 Thirds in 2020.

Also have 5 Firsts , 7 Seconds, 3 Thirds in 2021.

I feel pretty confident that I can be a strong competitor next year, with a handful of unexciting yet young QBs, Mixon at RB, KA/Evans/Hollywood/Metcalf/Landry at WR, and some upside dart throws at TE.

I plan on going hard after RB in the draft this coming year, and probably trading quite a few picks away for vets at WR and even IDP.

Jacobs was a pretty easy sell a couple weeks ago, was able to basically get Evans for him. Got Derek Carr cheap, which I like given the depth of our league. I was able to turn Evan Engram into Mixon plus 1sts in 20 and 21, which made me very happy. Corey Davis turned into Njoku.

EDIT: Finally made a good deal to sell Keenan Allen. Paired him with a 2nd to grab Hopkins.
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TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Haskins, Dalton, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, D Washington, M Davis, Laird, Scarlett, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, Wims, Dez, Hardy
KITTLE, Waller, Herndon, Sternberger, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller, J Williams
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
KITTLE/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter and then a bunch of stashes for IDP

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Re: My first big-boy startup is nigh - tank the first year??

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:01 am

Flgatorguy87 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:22 am
You are overthinking this. I like to set an upper limit on player ages for the core of my team, and then sprinkle in vets as depth further down. Don't set hard rules on yourself or you'll end up forcing yourself into a bad draft position. If you draft a team with RB's like that, you will not be contending next year either, and if you miss on RB's next year, you won't be competing the following year. Others can have different options, but winning in year 1 is just as good as year 3.
This is some of the best advice you can get. I've bought and sold both youth and vets. It's fluid and very league-dependent. Once you feel out how the league values players, you can find your spots to capitalise.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 man rosters - full point ppr
2015 Champion
2017 Champion
2018 Champion

QB: Winston, Brissett
RB: Gurley, Kamara, Sanders
WR: Julio, OBJ, Keenan, Fuller
TE: Kelce, Kittle

2020: 1.05, late 2nd

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Re: My first big-boy startup is nigh - tank the first year??

Postby ArrylT » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:34 am

Thanks for the update on the progress of your startup. :)
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: My first big-boy startup is nigh - tank the first year??

Postby moishetreats » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:47 am

Looking promising. Thank you for the update!
www.fantasyfootballforever.com - SF/2QB website

10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex

QB: Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Brissett
RB: Gurley, Gordon, Mixon, Breida, M Brown, Edwards, Scarborough, Jo Williams
WR: Hill, Cooper, Hilton, Edelman, Anderson, Slayton, Lazard, Arcega-Whiteside, Harmon
TE: Kelce, Henry, Herndon, Goedert, J Smith, Alie-Cox

2020: 3rd, 4thx2, 5thx3
2021: 2ndx2, 3rd, 5thx2



12 tms 22 plyrs {IR} [Taxi]. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex/ best ball

QB: Stafford ($36 through 2022), Cousins (1/19), Winston (2/19), Garappolo (5/20), Brissett (1/21), K Allen (4/19), Driskel (1/1),
RB: Barkley (38/22) A Jones (10/19), Mixon (30/20), Lindsay (11/21), Ja Williams (3/20), [Gaskin (1/23)]
WR: Cooper (28/20), Diggs (19/21), Allen (29/21), AJ Brown (7/23), R Anderson (3/21), C Davis (20/21), Ginn (1/19)
TE: Ertz (22/21), Goedert (8/22), Cook (1/19)
Total+dead cap hits $300

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Re: My first big-boy startup is nigh - tank the first year??

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:00 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:26 pm
Jacobs was a pretty easy sell a couple weeks ago, was able to basically get Evans for him.
Ouch :lol: :lol: :lol:

I still prefer Evans to Jacobs long term, ESPECIALLY as I am not playing for 2019 wins, but dang - I literally can not imagine a more polar opposite game result from a pair of studs, as we saw from Evans vs Jacobs today...
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Haskins, Dalton, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, D Washington, M Davis, Laird, Scarlett, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, Wims, Dez, Hardy
KITTLE, Waller, Herndon, Sternberger, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller, J Williams
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
KITTLE/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter and then a bunch of stashes for IDP


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