Why is the majority so high on Miles Sanders???

[actionjackson]

I’m trying to buy low. I think he can be a solid RB2 starting next year. Not a high end RB2 but someone like a current chase Edmonds.

Just came to post this...gotta think they are at least pondering replacing Hurts next year, and/or at the very least...changing the playbook a little for the rest of the year to balance it out. He must have seen use in the 2nd half (I didn't get to watch)

[Pyro_6138]

He'll be able to produce he and Siranni finish their highly competitive game of hide and seek.

[Anteaters]

I know this is beating a dead horse, but I'd like to remind the jury that Miles had one carry in the first half. Because no other Philly RB received a carry in the entire game, that means Philly handed the ball to all RBs a combined one time (un, uno, um, unus, wahed, ekab, ONE FREAKING TIME!) in the entire first half.

This isn't a case of another RB being a better option and taking touches from Sanders - Gainwell had only 1 touch all game. This is a case of coaching malfeasance. All the more so when Sanders finished with 56 yards on 9 carries - imagine how much more productive Sanders would have been with more touches, and how much he could have helped Philly. If Hurts can't complete more than 12 passes in a game, why the hades isn't the OC calling more running plays???

Is there a "Fire Sirianni" web site yet? I'd like to click the YES button a few hundred times.

[abloom]

Encouraging news:
Gainwell did nothing in this game.


Unfortunately I think it was blatantly obvious that Hurts is simply a stop gap measure at qb at best right now. He holds onto the ball way to long and doesnt have great accuracy. I don't see how Sanders can reach his potential as long as hurts is the QB (unless he dramatically improves) in Philly

[Orenthal Shames]

Add another 5+ ypc effort to the stat sheet.

The usage is baffling. It'd be one thing if Hurts was Lamar/Cam/Vick and the team was loaded with talent. Sanders is probably the best weapon outside of Smith and beyond those two there's nothing.

[FantasyFreak]

Encouraging news:
Gainwell did nothing in this game.


Unfortunately I think it was blatantly obvious that Hurts is simply a stop gap measure at qb at best right now. He holds onto the ball way to long and doesnt have great accuracy. I don't see how Sanders can reach his potential as long as hurts is the QB (unless he dramatically improves) in Philly

Yep, and it's either a rookie next year, or Hurts, unless they go for Watson. This is why I am not buying, as a buy low. He's got another year on that rookie deal. I'm not banking on this offense this year or next, at the current moment.

[CGW]

I’m trying to buy low. I think he can be a solid RB2 starting next year. Not a high end RB2 but someone like a current chase Edmonds.

I tend to agree. If you can grab him for a 2nd or pair of 2nds from an owner who has given up, its worth the gamble. Hurts and Sirianni are awful for the run game and there are several avenues that lead to Sanders getting more volume in the future. New coach, new QB, or just development of the current QB.

[Jfever]

I know this is beating a dead horse, but I'd like to remind the jury that Miles had one carry in the first half. Because no other Philly RB received a carry in the entire game, that means Philly handed the ball to all RBs a combined one time (un, uno, um, unus, wahed, ekab, ONE FREAKING TIME!) in the entire first half.

This isn't a case of another RB being a better option and taking touches from Sanders - Gainwell had only 1 touch all game. This is a case of coaching malfeasance. All the more so when Sanders finished with 56 yards on 9 carries - imagine how much more productive Sanders would have been with more touches, and how much he could have helped Philly. If Hurts can't complete more than 12 passes in a game, why the hades isn't the OC calling more running plays???

Is there a "Fire Sirianni" web site yet? I'd like to click the YES button a few hundred times.

[kmbryant09]

Time for some here to accept that Miles Sanders just isn't very good

Doesn't mean he sucks but he isn't some phenomenal talent held back by being in Philly

He (and Jacobs for that matter) are just fine players propped up by the fact we as a community hype the bleep out of young RBs and they happened to be one of the best in an awful class

How in the world is that your takeaway from the first 6 weeks of the season?

Since 2019, M. Sanders is averaging the 3rd most yards per touch among RBs (I know, yards per touch) - behind Austin Ekeler and Christian McCaffrey.

He's had the 3rd most explosive plays in that same time-frame as well.

This season, M. Sanders is T-2nd for most broken tackles among RBs - he is 38th in carries this year. 38th!!! That means 6 teams have TWO players with more carries than Sanders has - and he's played an extra game!

He's vastly outproducing K. Gainwell and has been efficient in nearly every game this season despite the offense struggling to even function for 3/4 of most games.

It just so happens that his Head Coach, Nick Sirianni, is the laughing stock of the NFL right now for his lack of balance, creativity, and complexity. He's running a HS offense that is not funneling touches through the offense's best weapons (Sanders / Smith / Goedert), and largely ignoring it's best weapon in Sanders. Even the Philadelphia fans sarcastically cheered & gave a standing ovation when M. Sanders got his 5th carry of the game with ::checks notes:: 13 minutes left in the entire game!

Sanders actually looks better than I expected / remember, which makes this all the more puzzling from a touch distribution approach. It could simply be because the rest of the offense is stuck in mud, but he's breaking tackles frequently, has great burst through the hole, and (knock on wood) doesn't seem to have any ball security issues this year with drops & fumbles. At this rate, Philadelphia will force Sirianni out the door by week 10 if he doesn't start getting his best player involved.

[FantasyFreak]

I’m trying to buy low. I think he can be a solid RB2 starting next year. Not a high end RB2 but someone like a current chase Edmonds.

I tend to agree. If you can grab him for a 2nd or pair of 2nds from an owner who has given up, its worth the gamble. Hurts and Sirianni are awful for the run game and there are several avenues that lead to Sanders getting more volume in the future. New coach, new QB, or just development of the current QB.

It would have to be very minimal cost for me. The Eagles are a mess, and Sanders is locked in there for another year, unless he's traded. Hurts is horrible for Sanders, and either he stays, or they draft a rookie, another less than desirable situation, OR, they make a move for Watson. I am not banking on the last option, but it would certainly help him, although would still cap his receiving upside.

[Pullo Vision]

I know this is beating a dead horse, but I'd like to remind the jury that Miles had one carry in the first half. Because no other Philly RB received a carry in the entire game, that means Philly handed the ball to all RBs a combined one time (un, uno, um, unus, wahed, ekab, ONE FREAKING TIME!) in the entire first half.

This isn't a case of another RB being a better option and taking touches from Sanders - Gainwell had only 1 touch all game. This is a case of coaching malfeasance. All the more so when Sanders finished with 56 yards on 9 carries - imagine how much more productive Sanders would have been with more touches, and how much he could have helped Philly. If Hurts can't complete more than 12 passes in a game, why the hades isn't the OC calling more running plays???

Is there a "Fire Sirianni" web site yet? I'd like to click the YES button a few hundred times.

Just heard the following- Hurts is averaging 7 fantasy points in the 1st half of games this year, and 17 in the 2nd half. Put together with Sanders getting little opportunity in the 1st half then (relatively) exploding in the 2nd half, it leads me to wonder if there's some shift in playcalling at halftime. If I recall correctly, Wilson has been described as limited by a Carroll run based offense then allowed to cut loose to try to get back into games. Considering Hurts led them from down 28-7 to an eventual 28-22 loss, could something similar be happening here?

[MFundercover]

I'll take the L on hyping him in the offseason, but to be fair I don't think anybody was predicting the usage to be quite this bad. I've never seen and NFL offense literally not run the ball. And as bad as Hurts looks, the coaching staff is even worse.

[KingsKing]

I know this is beating a dead horse, but I'd like to remind the jury that Miles had one carry in the first half. Because no other Philly RB received a carry in the entire game, that means Philly handed the ball to all RBs a combined one time (un, uno, um, unus, wahed, ekab, ONE FREAKING TIME!) in the entire first half.

This isn't a case of another RB being a better option and taking touches from Sanders - Gainwell had only 1 touch all game. This is a case of coaching malfeasance. All the more so when Sanders finished with 56 yards on 9 carries - imagine how much more productive Sanders would have been with more touches, and how much he could have helped Philly. If Hurts can't complete more than 12 passes in a game, why the hades isn't the OC calling more running plays???

Is there a "Fire Sirianni" web site yet? I'd like to click the YES button a few hundred times.

Just heard the following- Hurts is averaging 7 fantasy points in the 1st half of games this year, and 17 in the 2nd half. Put together with Sanders getting little opportunity in the 1st half then (relatively) exploding in the 2nd half, it leads me to wonder if there's some shift in playcalling at halftime. If I recall correctly, Wilson has been described as limited by a Carroll run based offense then allowed to cut loose to try to get back into games. Considering Hurts led them from down 28-7 to an eventual 28-22 loss, could something similar be happening here?

No it’s because the eagles are down 2-3 scores at the half and teams playing more relaxed prevent defence that allows hurts to pile up 2nd half numbers .

[Anteaters]

I know this is beating a dead horse, but I'd like to remind the jury that Miles had one carry in the first half. Because no other Philly RB received a carry in the entire game, that means Philly handed the ball to all RBs a combined one time (un, uno, um, unus, wahed, ekab, ONE FREAKING TIME!) in the entire first half.

This isn't a case of another RB being a better option and taking touches from Sanders - Gainwell had only 1 touch all game. This is a case of coaching malfeasance. All the more so when Sanders finished with 56 yards on 9 carries - imagine how much more productive Sanders would have been with more touches, and how much he could have helped Philly. If Hurts can't complete more than 12 passes in a game, why the hades isn't the OC calling more running plays???

Is there a "Fire Sirianni" web site yet? I'd like to click the YES button a few hundred times.

Just heard the following- Hurts is averaging 7 fantasy points in the 1st half of games this year, and 17 in the 2nd half. Put together with Sanders getting little opportunity in the 1st half then (relatively) exploding in the 2nd half, it leads me to wonder if there's some shift in playcalling at halftime. If I recall correctly, Wilson has been described as limited by a Carroll run based offense then allowed to cut loose to try to get back into games. Considering Hurts led them from down 28-7 to an eventual 28-22 loss, could something similar be happening here?

I can't figure out exactly what's going on. I don't know if the defenses let up a bit or if the OC is calling plays different or if Hurts is doing things different in second halves - I listened to part of Sirianni's post-game show from Thursday night on a fan's youtube vlog and the way he described the decision making was bizarre. It sounded almost as if Hurts has almost complete control to do some things, but it doesn't make sense to me that the HC/OC would entrust a young QB in this situation to do that. I think it was a case of Sirianni trying to avoid the tough questions from reporters. However, Sirianni's words and the results on the field every week leave me with the impression that there isn't really a concrete play calling philosophy on the Eagles.

If there is a shift in play calling at halftime, I wish the coaches would get ahead of the curve and employ that sort of play calling at the beginning of the game.

[MEuRaH]

I'll take the L on hyping him in the offseason, but to be fair I don't think anybody was predicting the usage to be quite this bad. I've never seen and NFL offense literally not run the ball. And as bad as Hurts looks, the coaching staff is even worse.

You and me both.

Sanders actually looked decent this past game. He had a run that looked so good I had go to "who was that" and was shocked to see it was Sanders. Why aren't they using him more?

Frustrating.