Why is the majority so high on Miles Sanders???

[Phaded]

He's got a 3-down skillset, one of few backs in this class who do.

But yeah, I think people liking the Eagles situation are being a little too hopeful.

[drbuttermaker]

Watch his game tape.

[lilpuppy99]

Maybe they rotate their RBs because they haven't had a back capable of being on the field for 3 downs? Sanders has that ability and is the biggest investment at the position the Eagles have made in the Pederson era. Plus he is the only RB on the roster that has a contract for the 2020 season...

The only thing he has going for him is draft capital in my opinion. Now they have Jordan Howard also, He's a 3 down back. The odds are just as likely that Howard leads the Eagles this year as Sanders. Howard is 24 and already has two 1,000 yard seasons and 2 seasons with 9 tds.

The contract point in moot . Philly will employ more than Sanders in 2020 at RB, so either they resign the aforementioned Howard or someone else currently on the roster or they go get someone else to share touches.

[Friction]

All the above could be correct, we just wont know until the season starts. We do know that they have not had a back like him for a few years, and it very well could be as simple as that. That's the fun thing about Fantasy, you get to put your money where your mouth is. I have the 1.01 in two leagues, and I think he is too much risk there, but will probably take him at the 1.04 I have also. I like his talent a bunch, but Philly gives me a NE vibe a good portion of thetime, as far as the backfield goes. These teams are successful, so you cannot knock them. But even NE started pounding the rock with Michel last year, problem is (for ppr leagues) he did not catch the ball. Good thing, he scores tds.

[lilpuppy99]

Talent over situation. Plus Sanders is the first Back with 3 down skillset to have a bleep at that backfield

Edit: shot not bleep haha

Ajayi was and now Howard is a 3 down back. Also, W Smallwood and C Clement both played on all 3 downs at times.

[lilpuppy99]

Watch his game tape.

LOL. I've watched plenty of his game tape. Saw 10 fumbles in 308 college touches. That equals the bench and ultimately unemployment in the NFL.

[lilpuppy99]

Peterson has never had a well-rounded 3 down back ... he mentioned on multiple times last year about his desire to feature Josh Adams, but Adam proved to be insufficient. Time will tell if Sanders can fulfill a 3 down role, but there’s plenty of evidence that Peterson wants a feature back.

Now he has Jordan Howard. Howie said it in his presser. They like Miles Sanders but didn't expect him to fall to their spot and had no plans to move up to get him. He fell, they made the pick.

Everyone is knocking Howard as a 2 down guy but he has had at least 20 catches in his 3 NFL seasons.(Miles Sanders had 23 last year).

I'm not arguing Miles Sanders talent. I just hate the landing spot for him. Very muddy waters. Instead of drafting top 5..draft someone else and if you like Sanders, he'll be cheaper around the trade deadline.

[jenkins.math]

So far I've been seeing a lot of top 5 talk in rookie drafts for Sanders and I don't understand it.

If you want to know where the Sanders hype train got rolling, it's right here.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=178590

He was rarely mentioned up until this thread. Once that post hit, it was like a virus spread amongst the boards. I've honestly never seen people gravitate and believe in one post like this one. It's really been quite impressive.

[lilpuppy99]

So far I've been seeing a lot of top 5 talk in rookie drafts for Sanders and I don't understand it.

If you want to know where the Sanders hype train got rolling, it's right here.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=178590

He was rarely mentioned up until this thread. Once that post hit, it was like a virus spread amongst the boards. I've honestly never seen people gravitate and believe in one post like this one. It's really been quite impressive.

Lol, he also is pimping undrafted Elijah Holyfield.

[lukkynumber13]

So far I've been seeing a lot of top 5 talk in rookie drafts for Sanders and I don't understand it.

If you want to know where the Sanders hype train got rolling, it's right here.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=178590

He was rarely mentioned up until this thread. Once that post hit, it was like a virus spread amongst the boards. I've honestly never seen people gravitate and believe in one post like this one. It's really been quite impressive.

Well to be fair, it’s not just the community here that’s been high on him for the past couple months.

The actual NFL drafted him 2nd among RBs, so that’s something.

I’ll admit, watching film over the winter, Sanders didn’t look special to me. He was lumped in with Mike Weber, Justice Hill, & Darrell Henderson for me back then.

[jenkins.math]

Well to be fair, it’s not just the community here that’s been high on him for the past couple months.

The actual NFL drafted him 2nd among RBs, so that’s something.

I’ll admit, watching film over the winter, Sanders didn’t look special to me. He was lumped in with Mike Weber, Justice Hill, & Darrell Henderson for me back then.
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I wasn't discrediting him or anything. I thought his analysis was solid. I'm sure you will agree that was a massive turning point on the boards for Sanders.

[MEuRaH]

Lol, he also is pimping undrafted Elijah Holyfield.

Yup, that was me.

You should read the beginning of that post. I've had a nearly 100% success rate over the last 3 years when analyzing RBs. This is one of the reasons DLF made me a writer. The process takes THREE steps. The post you read was only step one; recognizing play-makers. I always have several players in the wrong spot in step 1, but it's hard to analyze speed/quickness when watching film alone. Defenders taking a bad angle is one indication of speed, but maybe the defender is taking a bad angle because the defender just isn't that good at reading angles.

Step two is the post-draft analysis. Anyone whose combine performance doesn't match their game tape needs to be reassessed. In my part 2, Holyfield was moved all the way down. His speed is too slow for the zone runner he's supposed to be. It works in college, but it won't at the NFL level.

Step three is where RBs who are zone or power-oriented need to be drafted to their perspective schemes, otherwise they won't succeed. The final step was posted here. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=181974

[drbuttermaker]

Watch his game tape.

LOL. I've watched plenty of his game tape. Saw 10 fumbles in 308 college touches. That equals the bench and ultimately unemployment in the NFL.

Have you watched any sports movies? Because that can be solved with a two-minute montage.

[Farley]

Peterson has never had a well-rounded 3 down back ... he mentioned on multiple times last year about his desire to feature Josh Adams, but Adam proved to be insufficient. Time will tell if Sanders can fulfill a 3 down role, but there’s plenty of evidence that Peterson wants a feature back.

Now he has Jordan Howard. Howie said it in his presser. They like Miles Sanders but didn't expect him to fall to their spot and had no plans to move up to get him. He fell, they made the pick.

Everyone is knocking Howard as a 2 down guy but he has had at least 20 catches in his 3 NFL seasons.(Miles Sanders had 23 last year).

I'm not arguing Miles Sanders talent. I just hate the landing spot for him. Very muddy waters. Instead of drafting top 5..draft someone else and if you like Sanders, he'll be cheaper around the trade deadline.

Yeah. Howard's a beast. Best hands in the game.

Weird that the Bears, with championship aspirations, shipped him off for a 6th. And then the team that traded for him promptly used a premium pick to draft another running back.

[Mr. Wizard]

As my avatar indicates, I've watched a fair amount of the Bears in recent years...

Calling Jordan Howard a three-down back is laughable.