Howard excelled under outside zone under Fox/Gase. Pretty sure they flipped to inside zone when Nagy showed up and that’s a big part of why Howard fell off.dlf_mikeh wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:04 pm If the Bears run power, he'll do juscould have sworn that they wanted to run zone though, which is why they shipped off Jordan Howard.
They basically just got a smaller version of Jordan Howard.
So I don't get the draft pick, but maybe I'm wrong and they won't be making any changes to their offense. If that's the case, Montgomery will be somewhere in the RB13-18 range, max.
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Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
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Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
I don't get the Montgomery love here. I feel Davis is the better back here. All things being equal, I would see Davis beating him out for early down work. But I can see draft capital being in play. I figured they would add another back in the draft, so not surprised. I am surprised they would trade up to get a less talented back. We will see how it all turns out.
Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
No Doubt he will fly up many draft boards. Mine will not be one of them.
Making college players miss is one thing. Making the Vikings or Packer's miss him is quite another.
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Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
I completely agree. He will likely shoot up boards, allowing others to fall. I just don't see it in him.
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Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
Even if you don't see it in him, do you believe the scheme/situation is strong enough to raise him? Hunt wasn't thought of highly either but he landed in a great spot and his strengths were overlooked.
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Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
The situation and his draft capital definitely raises him some. I still think Davis is a better back and Cohen will certainly cut into him. He won't be a workhorse back even if he beats out Davis. I don't have any interest in him but I can see where others might. Hunt seemed like a better runner in college and then fell into a perfect situation.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:57 amEven if you don't see it in him, do you believe the scheme/situation is strong enough to raise him? Hunt wasn't thought of highly either but he landed in a great spot and his strengths were overlooked.
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Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
Its a different NFL. Cohen is basically a WR that happens to play RB. I think you will see guys like Cohen lasting a lot longer because coaches arent trying to run them up the middle out of a power I formation.
Apparently the coaches love Cohen in Chicago. I think he has his role pretty much locked down and it will look similar to what they did with him last season.
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Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
even accounting for calendar-timed coachspeak, i don't recall Nagy ever saying anything similar to this thread's subject line about Howard.
certainly we'll need to account for some level of post-pick PR, pick justification, locker room support, etc...but if Nagy were that kind of guy (and he isn't) we would have seen him say similar things about Howard. it's possible i don't recall them, but i think given things i do recall that its more likely the Bears don't think they have drafted a smaller version of Montgomery.
that doesn't mean it isn't true, of course, but it bears consideration that they see him differently since they are the ones who will decide how to deploy him.
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Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
Wasn't this the same coach that said Trey Burton would take on the Travis Kelce role?
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He also said Howard could catch..
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i must have missed that...if so that undermines the entirety of the comment hahaha
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Re: Nagy on Montgomery: “whole package... hands... three down back... everything we’re looking for”
Taking him at 1.2 but I’m a Bears fan who believes in Coach Nagy and his offensive mind. The Bears had limited draft capital due to the Mack and Anthony Miller deals and they still traded up for Montgomery. It’s not to be a back up or split time. Davis is a fine back up and Tarik will be all over the place. I took Alvin Kamara a few years ago just based off of Sean Payton trading up for him.
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x2Bighurt35 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:29 pm Taking him at 1.2 but I’m a Bears fan who believes in Coach Nagy and his offensive mind. The Bears had limited draft capital due to the Mack and Anthony Miller deals and they still traded up for Montgomery. It’s not to be a back up or split time. Davis is a fine back up and Tarik will be all over the place. I took Alvin Kamara a few years ago just based off of Sean Payton trading up for him.
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Goirish374 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:42 pmi must have missed that...if so that undermines the entirety of the comment hahaha
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