Re: Tyreek Hill
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:06 pm
legit speed for sure, but another guy that is going to require manufactured touches? That never seems to work out very well..
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31 wins in the past 3 years. It's a short list of QBsclarion contrarion wrote:While the poster who points out alex smith's failings is not wrong , andy reid could care less about smith's single handed destruction of maclin conley or kelce's fantasy value. If a guy can win you between 9-11 games every year then he will keep his job for a coach that has been fired before and is in no hurry to have that happen again. If the chiefs had a real solid young option perhaps but foles tyler bray and aaron murray are not that option. Smith will remain there as long as the chiefs stay in the 9 , 10, or 11 win area until he ages out or the chiefs go about getting a real upgrade at QB.
I think reid chooses dependibility over flash most likely and hill is a returner and a guy they may get 3 to 5 touches a week , if he can even beat out wilson . I could see mike williams (if he is even close to his early career skill level )become more of a factor as he would be more likely to earn reid & smith's trust by making contested catches and likely being a far better blocker on the outside ,IF he even makes the roster .
Maybe, but The Chiefs under Dorsey have proven to be almost obsessed with having this type of explosive gadget player. In 2010, they used a 2nd rounder to overdraft Dexter McCluster. In 2014, they used a 4th to take a shot on an insane college playmaker in De'Anthony Thomas, whose size and NFL speed were huge question marks. Just now in 2016, they used another 4th rounder to draft Tyreek Hill--a raw athletic freak who didn't have near the production of the previous two but is arguably a much better athlete with a much higher ceiling than either. It was also a risky pick when you take into consideration that he had big character red flags coming out, so they put a lot of faith in his ability, drafting him this high. Honestly despite his athleticism most expected him to go completely undrafted due to his issues, and to be a return specialist at best with his raw speed. For him to be this involved this early is a HUGE statement, both about his maturity level and the team's trust in him. Never mind the fact that his skill-set seems to be translating at least on some levelDr.Graffin wrote:I think he's looked pretty good so far. That game with the PS circle juke move against the Jets. He's noticeably faster than other players on the field. Too bad he's on the Chiefs though as there doesn't seem to be much room for another relevant fantasy scoring player, especially at WR.
All great points!!! I'm even more excited for his potential now. He is definitely explosive. Gives me some reason to watch Chiefs games..ConnSKINS26 wrote:Maybe, but The Chiefs under Dorsey have proven to be almost obsessed with having this type of explosive gadget player. In 2010, they used a 2nd rounder to overdraft Dexter McCluster. In 2014, they used a 4th to take a shot on an insane college playmaker in De'Anthony Thomas, whose size and NFL speed were huge question marks. Just now in 2016, they used another 4th rounder to draft Tyreek Hill--a raw athletic freak who didn't have near the production of the previous two but is arguably a much better athlete with a much higher ceiling than either. It was also a risky pick when you take into consideration that he had big character red flags coming out, so they put a lot of faith in his ability, drafting him this high. Honestly despite his athleticism most expected him to go completely undrafted due to his issues, and to be a return specialist at best with his raw speed. For him to be this involved this early is a HUGE statement, both about his maturity level and the team's trust in him. Never mind the fact that his skill-set seems to be translating at least on some levelDr.Graffin wrote:I think he's looked pretty good so far. That game with the PS circle juke move against the Jets. He's noticeably faster than other players on the field. Too bad he's on the Chiefs though as there doesn't seem to be much room for another relevant fantasy scoring player, especially at WR.
Back to my original point, its obvious that this FO is very consistently concerned with having this element to their offense...after three years on the job, if Reid had no use for it, you'd think they'd have put their heads together and stopped wasting fairly valuable draft picks on filling this one role on the roster.
As it stands, while there are a few mouths to feed in this offense already, you could also argue that there's not an offense in the NFL that's more prepared to, or invested in, utilizing and forcing the ball to this type of player--and Hill is looking like a gem so far, with his explosiveness, versatility, and slowly increasing role in the offense as such a young player.
Seems like a definite hold, to me.
He's turning into a standout special teamer and will get a 0-3 offensive touches. In leagues that give return yardage he could have low end flex appeal. He's had 2 TD's called back for blocks that didn't factor into the result.BuckeyeNation wrote:I've been pretty impressed with him as an NFL player, I'm just having a hard time seeing how he becomes fantasy relevant. The Chiefs already have a hard enough time keeping Maclin/Kelce weekly fantasy starters and once you factor in Conley I just don't see there being the volume for Hill to become fantasy relevant soon.