Well obviously. Intentionally beating up a pregnant woman is significantly worse in my opinion. Which is saying a lot cause beating up a woman regardless is also egregious.
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My point is both should be disqualifying from a life as a millionaire sports star, so why does it matter to debate her pregnancy? The fact that you and others have been debating it implies you’re fine with the “lesser” crime. It’s a moot point.
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At no point did I say I was fine with it.jcc6fd wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:52 pmMy point is both should be disqualifying from a life as a millionaire sports star, so why does it matter to debate her pregnancy? The fact that you and others have been debating it implies you’re fine with the “lesser” crime. It’s a moot point.
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Not just the lack of video evidence, but the circumstantial evidence at best got Zeke 6 games. There was as much evidence saying his ex was making it all up.Cowboysfan33 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:53 pmHe should, but with one of the worst commissioners of all-time, who knows? I mean Zeke got 6 games without video evidence, so who knows?
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That whole situation was nuts, not saying Zeke should’ve gotten off scot free, because he’s done a lot of dumb stuff but I thought that it was too much. It will be interesting to see what happens to Hill, if he’s totally cleared of this incident.Bot101 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:56 pmNot just the lack of video evidence, but the circumstantial evidence at best got Zeke 6 games. There was as much evidence saying his ex was making it all up.Cowboysfan33 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:53 pmHe should, but with one of the worst commissioners of all-time, who knows? I mean Zeke got 6 games without video evidence, so who knows?
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Btw, the situation with Mixon was not as rosy as some of you suggest.
IIRC, he made advances on the woman, possibly of a sexual nature, and she rejected him, possibly using racial language, and then he punched her and broke her jaw.
IIRC, he made advances on the woman, possibly of a sexual nature, and she rejected him, possibly using racial language, and then he punched her and broke her jaw.
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I don't think I could have possibly said this better. Both of my children had fractures before age 4. A police report was never involved. Children Services was never notified. When there is smoke, there is fire. Especially when you have already demonstrated the behavior. We will likely never know the truth as she will protect him out of fear/financial reasons, but too many red flags that something bad happened here for me.Weknownothing86 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:16 am Sorry to anyone who doesn't want to rush to judgement , I kind of get it, its how it should be, we should be patient but this scumbag doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. All of this screams a typical DV case. If you know about Domestic Violence EVERYTHING about this case is typical. Someone calls police or reports about a kid, the non abuser (In this case Spinal) covers it up for multiple reasons (they are scared, they wont be financially supported, they actually think the guy will change, etc etc) cops cant prove anything without video and case gets dropped. I don't care if his name isn't on the report, that doesn't mean a damn thing in these cases. Cops could have been called and when they got there Spinal covered for him, it is unfortunately what many victims of DV do until they have the strength to leave. This guy should have never been in the league to begin with, then he becomes a huge star without having to pay any consequences, there is no possible way he "changed"
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I wrote about this for the site awhile back, and mentioned Hill in the article. What I was able to find out at the time was many thought he was a model citizen after the incident. Showed remorse, owned up to it, went through the process with no complains et cetera. That is FAR from true with many players with similar issues. For those reasons, I decided at the time I was ok with rostering him. But I had an internal zero tolerance policy, as I just don't like to own players with off field issues, and especially if violence or aggression is involved. So with this news, I moved him shortly after I heard it. Did I lose a little value? Sure did. But I'm fine with it.
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Yeah, went back and watched the video-pretty hard to watch.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:11 pm Btw, the situation with Mixon was not as rosy as some of you suggest.
IIRC, he made advances on the woman, possibly of a sexual nature, and she rejected him, possibly using racial language, and then he punched her and broke her jaw.
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Health care professionals are fairly good at evaluating young kids and their injuries and asking them the right questions to determine whether foul play (ie abuse) was the cause, and reporting such to the authorities when they have a reasonable suspicion.
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I dont see that at all. Mixon walks up and is talking to the guy on the right. Then you see as hes about to walk away she turns to him, says something then shoves him then he does the deplorable act. From one account she also supposedly spit in his face too, although that cant be confirmed.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:11 pm Btw, the situation with Mixon was not as rosy as some of you suggest.
IIRC, he made advances on the woman, possibly of a sexual nature, and she rejected him, possibly using racial language, and then he punched her and broke her jaw.
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I am the same way.dlf_ryanf wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:23 pm I wrote about this for the site awhile back, and mentioned Hill in the article. What I was able to find out at the time was many thought he was a model citizen after the incident. Showed remorse, owned up to it, went through the process with no complains et cetera. That is FAR from true with many players with similar issues. For those reasons, I decided at the time I was ok with rostering him. But I had an internal zero tolerance policy, as I just don't like to own players with off field issues, and especially if violence or aggression is involved. So with this news, I moved him shortly after I heard it. Did I lose a little value? Sure did. But I'm fine with it.
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Same here. Cashed out.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pmI am the same way.dlf_ryanf wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:23 pm I wrote about this for the site awhile back, and mentioned Hill in the article. What I was able to find out at the time was many thought he was a model citizen after the incident. Showed remorse, owned up to it, went through the process with no complains et cetera. That is FAR from true with many players with similar issues. For those reasons, I decided at the time I was ok with rostering him. But I had an internal zero tolerance policy, as I just don't like to own players with off field issues, and especially if violence or aggression is involved. So with this news, I moved him shortly after I heard it. Did I lose a little value? Sure did. But I'm fine with it.
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Exactly. Morality questions aside, I just don't think those guys are worth the headache. And my current mode of thinking is if the incidents DO turn out to be true, your best value is probably RIGHT after it happens.Bot101 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:28 pmSame here. Cashed out.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:14 pmI am the same way.dlf_ryanf wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:23 pm I wrote about this for the site awhile back, and mentioned Hill in the article. What I was able to find out at the time was many thought he was a model citizen after the incident. Showed remorse, owned up to it, went through the process with no complains et cetera. That is FAR from true with many players with similar issues. For those reasons, I decided at the time I was ok with rostering him. But I had an internal zero tolerance policy, as I just don't like to own players with off field issues, and especially if violence or aggression is involved. So with this news, I moved him shortly after I heard it. Did I lose a little value? Sure did. But I'm fine with it.
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