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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby problemsolver » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:38 am

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He's going to get cut, or they are hypocrites.
They are already hypocrites. In the middle of all this Tyreek stuff, they traded for and gave a hundred million dollar extension to Frank Clark.

Curran asked Clark how this incident started and he stated "I don't know what they do, what they go through, I don't know what she is going through, I know she is going through some crazy fits, and she may be pregnant."

That's when Curran entered the hotel and assessed the remnants of the disturbance and began interviewing witnesses.
When Curran approached the room, Hurt was awake.

"We went up the room, there was a damaged lamp on the table, a damaged lamp on the wall and she's got a large welt on the side of her cheek, she's got marks on her neck," Curran said. "She had what looked like rug burn on her one thigh. We have pictures of everything."

According to Hurt, she and Clark began to argue while lying on the bed in their room at the Maui Sands Resort and Indoor Waterpark. She got angry, threw a TV remote control at him, and he responded by trying to restrain her on the bed. She told Curran that she tried to get loose by biting his nose. Then she said he pushed her head into the bed, they got off the bed and he punched her in the face, knocking her back and breaking a lamp. She stated that she threw an alarm clock at him as he prepared to leave the room.


Her two juvenile brothers offered more graphic accounts to Curran, pinning more blame on Clark. One of the brothers told police that Clark drank at least a fifth of Hennessy. Hurt underwent a portable breath test that measured .000%.

The brothers said they saw Clark hitting their sister and one said Clark had her against a wall, grabbing her by the throat, picking her off the ground and slamming her down.

"That's how this started, somebody in different room heard screaming and yelling, heard noises come out of the room, they thought something was going on and they opened up their door and little kids come running out of the hotel room that Frank was in and screaming Frank is … the witness came out basically saying, 'Frank is killing our sister.'

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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:48 am

He’s not playing this year. The tape is gross. “You should be terrified of me too, bitch.” Disgusting.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby lilpuppy99 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:00 am

If I had him on any team, I'd cut him instantly. Abusing his kid like that. bleep that bleep. Put me in a room with that lil bitch.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby abloom » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:02 am

As we have seen with AP, hunt, and whatever that Baltimore rb was (blanking on name lol) , once there is visual evidence things get far worse. The tape may not be a video but it's damning and it's not going away.

Can't see hill playing anywhere next year and not in the NFL ever again.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:40 am

Interestingly, Chiefs have suspended Hill. Not outright cut him

Unsure if that'll affect a difference on the will he ever play again front.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby Orenthal Shames » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:49 am

problemsolver wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:03 pm
Orenthal Shames wrote:
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As someone who specializes in pediatric critical care and who has seen far too many non-accidental traumas, from the depths of my being, F#ck that guy.
I'm just a guy who works in a big factory, but I agree wholeheartedly. Ban this f*cker from the NFL forever.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby abloom » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:09 am

hockeyBjj wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:40 am
Interestingly, Chiefs have suspended Hill. Not outright cut him

Unsure if that'll affect a difference on the will he ever play again front.
Pretty sure thats just because the Chiefs already had the Hunt video when it became public, and they did not have the Tyreek audio before it was released. Don't see how they will possibly not release him, not that it will matter because I think that he will just receive an indefinite suspension from Goodell. Chiefs have 2 2nds I expect to see them move a bit to draft another WR tonight.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby collbey » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:10 am

hockeyBjj wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:40 am
Interestingly, Chiefs have suspended Hill. Not outright cut him

Unsure if that'll affect a difference on the will he ever play again front.
Looking for a trade partner? Maybe calling the Browns.

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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby Valhalla » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:25 am

collbey wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:10 am
Looking for a trade partner? Maybe calling the Browns.
Maybe they’ll trade for Callaway...

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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby zoster80 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:39 am

zoster80 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:56 am
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This is a joke, how can they not charge both adults who were there?
If the police find you and your best friend in a room with a dead body and have no conclusive evidence, they can't just charge both of you with murder...ya know, the whole innocent until proven guilty thing that's stated in the Constitution?

Realistically speaking, it's very possible that the fiance is protecting Hill because he is her meal ticket and/or she loves him and believes he can change. That said, unless CPS finds something conclusive in their investigation, there will likely be no criminal charges. Of course, lack of conclusive evidence has never stopped Goodell from suspending players (see Elliott, Ezekiel), so it's still possible Hill could miss a few games this season.
In some cases they take it to grand jury and they see evidence and make a determination. Also I know of a case where there were drugs in a car. Neither of the guys took responsibility and both got charged. Once people are charged and see what the consequences are that gets people suddenly remembering the truth. You have both parents facing time, I’m sure truth would come out.
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The lawyer in this video said exactly what I stated above...charge both child endangerment and assault and Crystal end up turn states evidence.

This guy is toast
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:54 am

abloom wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:02 am
As we have seen with AP, hunt, and whatever that Baltimore rb was (blanking on name lol) , once there is visual evidence things get far worse. The tape may not be a video but it's damning and it's not going away.

Can't see hill playing anywhere next year and not in the NFL ever again.
But Hunt already has his job back and AP is still playing.

Two things for sure here... Hill is an bleep and no one TRULY knows what will happen to him. It's all speculation at this point.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby abloom » Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:33 am

Jigga94 wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:54 am
abloom wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:02 am
As we have seen with AP, hunt, and whatever that Baltimore rb was (blanking on name lol) , once there is visual evidence things get far worse. The tape may not be a video but it's damning and it's not going away.

Can't see hill playing anywhere next year and not in the NFL ever again.
But Hunt already has his job back and AP is still playing.

Two things for sure here... Hill is an bleep and no one TRULY knows what will happen to him. It's all speculation at this point.
I think the difference is the talent and the history. AP and Hunt (to my knowledge) had not history of domestic violence. I also think the tape of hill is very different than either AP or Hunt. AP's "excuse" was that he was just disciplining his child. There is no way that Hill can say that he was disciplining him. Additionally hunt's assult was on a grown woman not a child.

I'm not saying that Hunt and AP should be in the NFL, I'm just saying that there are differences that could allow AP and Hunt to avoid the end of their careers that I dont think Hill can.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby UnsafeAtAnySpd » Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:55 am

These teams aren't making personnel decisions based on morality. It comes down to how they affect the bottom line and weighing the risks and rewards. The Hunt video was getting heavy attention from the getgo and, like many teams, they likely view RB as a replaceable position. Cut Hunt, avoid the PR hit and look like you care about that type of thing as an organization.

The Frank Clark incident is dated and not nearly as many people are aware of it, so the risk/reward leans towards trading for and giving him the money.

The Ray Rice story probably had the most mainstream coverage of any of these incidents. He was already on the decline, so why risk it?

AP story fades away and isn't in the public eye, bring him back.

Likely because of the timing of this Hill tape coinciding with the draft, it doesn't seem like it's received that much coverage so far. WR is important, so why not suspend him and see if it gains traction?

These teams aren't hypocritical in their actions, only in how they try to frame them. There's no moral compass guiding them. That said, I think it is telling as to the importance teams place on various positions and skillsets.

Oh, don't let any of this distract you from how big of a piece of bleep Tyreek Hill is as a person.

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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:58 am

UnsafeAtAnySpd wrote:
Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:55 am
These teams aren't making personnel decisions based on morality. It comes down to how they affect the bottom line and weighing the risks and rewards. The Hunt video was getting heavy attention from the getgo and, like many teams, they likely view RB as a replaceable position. Cut Hunt, avoid the PR hit and look like you care about that type of thing as an organization.

The Frank Clark incident is dated and not nearly as many people are aware of it, so the risk/reward leans towards trading for and giving him the money.

The Ray Rice story probably had the most mainstream coverage of any of these incidents. He was already on the decline, so why risk it?

AP story fades away and isn't in the public eye, bring him back.

Likely because of the timing of this Hill tape coinciding with the draft, it doesn't seem like it's received that much coverage so far. WR is important, so why not suspend him and see if it gains traction?

These teams aren't hypocritical in their actions, only in how they try to frame them. There's no moral compass guiding them. That said, I think it is telling as to the importance teams place on various positions and skillsets.

Oh, don't let any of this distract you from how big of a piece of bleep Tyreek Hill is as a person.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby Needalife » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:14 am

Just curious, why are people saying he will never play in the NFL again? It's a disgusting situation but it seems like these players find their way back to the field. Vick had the dogfighting, AP had child abuse, Donte Stallworth ran over and killed a man while driving drunk... all made it back to the field. The only person I've seen completely go away was Ray Rice. Heck, it took 10 minutes before Kareem Hunt had another home and was already back to holding late 1st round rookie pick value.

I see a bigtime suspension but I don't see him never playing again. Stallworth is the example I keep coming back to.... killed a guy.
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