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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:27 pm

He's going to get cut. It's coming.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby gogobradyarm » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:29 pm

Jason3123 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:58 pm
gogobradyarm wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:52 pm
One year suspension, similar to AP. I can't see more or less.
Will be interesting because I think this situation is significantly worse than AP. There is a track record on Hill, widely known, which AP had none, as far as I can recall. In addition the audio represents the pure evilness in Hill's character, not just directed towards his child but towards the woman involved. I think this is a far worse situation IMO. We're talking about female abuse and minor abuse.
That is all fine and dandy, but league policy is pretty black and white on domestic abuse situations, and AP is the example we have. What happened in college with Tyreek, was not an offense that was tallied in the NFL (unless you count his draft stock falling). This is his first major offense as a league member.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby Jason3123 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:32 pm

gogobradyarm wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:29 pm
Jason3123 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:58 pm
gogobradyarm wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:52 pm
One year suspension, similar to AP. I can't see more or less.
Will be interesting because I think this situation is significantly worse than AP. There is a track record on Hill, widely known, which AP had none, as far as I can recall. In addition the audio represents the pure evilness in Hill's character, not just directed towards his child but towards the woman involved. I think this is a far worse situation IMO. We're talking about female abuse and minor abuse.
That is all fine and dandy, but league policy is pretty black and white on domestic abuse situations, and AP is the example we have. What happened in college with Tyreek, was not an offense that was tallied in the NFL (unless you count his draft stock falling). This is his first major offense as a league member.
Yes, but now they have a reason to reflect and address on that, because the media will not be shy about bringing it up endlessly over the next few days. I can’t imagine it wouldn’t factor into any of their decisions. The same way a Judge reviews the defendant’s history and makes decisions on current crimes that often reflect on past decisions and patterns of behavior. I would bet the NFL does the same now that Hill has given them reason too.

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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby FantasyDumDum » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:35 pm

gogobradyarm wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:29 pm
Jason3123 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:58 pm
gogobradyarm wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:52 pm
One year suspension, similar to AP. I can't see more or less.
Will be interesting because I think this situation is significantly worse than AP. There is a track record on Hill, widely known, which AP had none, as far as I can recall. In addition the audio represents the pure evilness in Hill's character, not just directed towards his child but towards the woman involved. I think this is a far worse situation IMO. We're talking about female abuse and minor abuse.
That is all fine and dandy, but league policy is pretty black and white on domestic abuse situations, and AP is the example we have. What happened in college with Tyreek, was not an offense that was tallied in the NFL (unless you count his draft stock falling). This is his first major offense as a league member.
There is specific language in the league conduct policy that actions/misconduct prior to entering the league can be taken into account during future investigations and when determining current punishments.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby dm1129 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:10 pm

There are a few things to keep in mind.

As has already been mentioned, the personal conduct policy allows the league to consider previous violations of the law in determining punishment. In other words, it is very likely this incident will not be considered the first in determining possible punishment.

A player does not have the 5th amendment protection in dealing with league investigators. If the player is evasive or will not cooperate, the league can take action based on that.

The personal conduct policy covers not only actual physical abuse, but also includes the threatening of physical violence. Hill is heard saying to his pregnant(with twins) fiancé whom he has already physically asaulted while pregnant with their now 3 year old son who has the broken arm, that she should be 'terrified' of him after the fiancé informs him that their 3 year old is terrified of Hill. That alone could very well be considered a violation of the policy. Then consider that the boy has his arm broken and he says his daddy did it. Hill is very possibly facing multiple violations of the personal conduct policy in addition to his conviction for assault from several years ago. Hill may be in legal jeopady now that the DA has access to this recording. I do not see him missing only a year, his career is in serious jeopardy. Rightly so.

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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby Dr.Graffin » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:21 pm

I believe the 3yo kid. At that age, he wouldn't be lying about this. Especially to say the man he's terrified of is the guy who broke his arm.

And for Hill to threaten his fiancé and expect his 3yo kid to be terrified of him is absolutely disgusting. This is worlds worse than Mixon, Rice, and Hunt imo. I don't see how another team could take the PR hit employing him, at least in the immediate future. 1 year minimum he's not playing football.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby Krypto_King » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:37 am

the Chiefs are bleep bags dragging their legs on this

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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby pokerface40 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:48 am

This thread should be locked soon, dude is done.

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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:02 am

gogobradyarm wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:29 pm
Jason3123 wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:58 pm
gogobradyarm wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:52 pm
One year suspension, similar to AP. I can't see more or less.
Will be interesting because I think this situation is significantly worse than AP. There is a track record on Hill, widely known, which AP had none, as far as I can recall. In addition the audio represents the pure evilness in Hill's character, not just directed towards his child but towards the woman involved. I think this is a far worse situation IMO. We're talking about female abuse and minor abuse.
That is all fine and dandy, but league policy is pretty black and white on domestic abuse situations, and AP is the example we have. What happened in college with Tyreek, was not an offense that was tallied in the NFL (unless you count his draft stock falling). This is his first major offense as a league member.
The Chiefs also drafted him because he promised them he was a changed man. The Chiefs cut Hunt for lying to them. He's going to get cut, or they are hypocrites. I think people who have Hill on their rosters need to understand it may be a sunken cost, and accept it, and learn not to roster guys that do these things in the future.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:03 am

Cult of Dionysus wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:37 pm
This guy needs to be Ray Riced.
X2. Blackball the guy. Enough is enough.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:10 am

Ironic that he was worried about what [other] people might do to his son, meanwhile he was the one terrifying him.

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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:41 am

I really feel that people who have Hill on their roster need to listen to that conversation before worrying about their Dynasty roster, and posting some sort of defense for the guy, in order to gain some perspective. If you still feel inclined to defend why he should perhaps be given a pass (because you roster him), I think you need to seriously evaluate your priorities.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby TampaBay216 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:50 am

That was disgusting to hear.
He should be done.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s cut by the morning. RIP career.
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Re: Tyreek Hill

Postby cazzie33 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:59 am

Indefinite suspension coming and likely no team EVER wanting to take on his nightmare reputation due to PR hit.

Tape sounds like fiance' was trying get damning evidence on recording but wasn't smart enough to not incriminate herself in the process. Neither should have the child without undergoing psychological examinations and supervised visitations to ensure the child's safety. Not just for physical but mental safety as well.

Tyreek is seriously lacking in parenting skills along with control issues in general wanting to terrify & intimidate her. She's not much better . If she thought this recording was going to give her leverage that sure blew up in her face. Now she's in trouble too and if she was counting on this to make sure she got paid in case of a breakup that future income just went bye-bye.

Pitiful excuses for parents who are blowing any chance @ doing right by their child (and future children). Pray that by some miracle they use this to turn their lives around before they totally scar that child for life. Hill will be lucky to ever get another chance @ football but that should be secondary to his relationship with his son. Same goes for her. The lavish lifestyle of a NFL WAG will soon be gone but she should start making her son's health a top priority


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